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dannben posted 09-05-2003 04:34 PM ET (US)   Profile for dannben   Send Email to dannben  
I am looking to buy a 1985 13' with a 2002 40 hp merc, I want to know besides being a good general use boat, could you ski behind it? I have 2 small kids and we are not pro skiers but I want to know if there is enough power in the boat to pull up a skier (I know it can very depending on the type of ski ect). I am looking to get my first boat for use on a fresh water lake and a 13' whaler is one of the boats I am looking at.
andygere posted 09-05-2003 04:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
A 13 with a 40 hp has plenty of power to pull a skier, especially smaller kids. While it may not be the perfect ski boat, it certainly is adequate and can be a lot of fun for not a lot of dollars. I skied behind my '72 13 with a mid 80's Merc 40 for many years. There are not many other 13 foot boats out there that can do this.
whalersman posted 09-05-2003 04:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     
dannben,

I also agree with Andy...

I owned a 1966 13' Sport with an Evinrude 35hp that I used to ski behind for years...

It would pull me out of the water using only 1 ski.... However, to accomplish this, I could not have a second person in the boat as an observer and this is illegal in California... Second, I weighed in at about 175 lbs when I used to do this.. I was slow getting up but it was possible.

Other then the above, it would pull almost any skier out of the water with 2 skis and a second person on the boat as the observer... Kids, absolutely no problem....

Enjoy....

Tom2697 posted 09-05-2003 06:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom2697  Send Email to Tom2697     
Yes, you can ski behind it. My brother and I waterskied, kneeboarded and tubed behind our '62 13' with a '74 Evinrude 25 hp when we were much younger. We got a 40 hp Nissan in '86 (I was 13 and 110lbs at that time) and it would pull us up on one ski. I even learned to barefoot behind that boat! Granted, we had to drop a ski or the kneeboard to do it but it worked. It would not work with a deepwater start. The only thing to consider is when your kids get bigger, stronger, and more experienced, they can pull the transom of that boat around when trying to run a slalom course...We stopped skiing behind that boat when I was 16 since my friend bought an 18' ski boat.
andygere posted 09-05-2003 07:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Our technique for pulling a slalom skier up on one ski was to put the observer on bow locker cover, and for the skier to keep his front foot in the ski and use the back foot/leg as a rudder to keep balance until the boat reached enough speed to get the skier up. It worked great, and at the time we knew nothing about selecting props or adjusting trim to improve the holeshot. A 13 with a 40, propped and trimmed right, will make a fun little ski boat. Be sure to use a decent bridal, since a heavy skier can move the boat around a bit. Also, long before wakeboarding was all the rage, we used to "skurf" behind my 13 using a 6'6" surfboard, a lot of wax, a waterski rope and no bindings. I guess we were way ahead of the curve....
whalersman posted 09-05-2003 07:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     
Andy,

I forgot about that technique.... I did have to remove my rear foot from the single ski to get up and then put my rear foot in but I was able to get up from deep water that way on just the single ski...

Have you seen the new Skurf???

The other day I saw about an 18 ft boat going slow creating a large wake behind the boat and there in the wake was a rider on a small board riding the wake with no rope attached to the boat.... I assume the boat couldn't go any faster as it would loose some of its wake... It looked kind of cool... Something I might have to try if I can find a boat to throw that kind of a wake...

Surfer Joe

Tom2697 posted 09-05-2003 08:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom2697  Send Email to Tom2697     
Large water ballast bags are used to load a wakeboarding boat to increase the wake size. I guess with a Whaler, just pump the water directly into the boat!
outragesteve posted 09-06-2003 02:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for outragesteve  Send Email to outragesteve     
my neighbor rigged a 13' with twin 25 Johnny's: Ski bar in the middle, and it would pull up a single skier like a MasterCraft!
David Jenkins posted 09-06-2003 12:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Jenkins  Send Email to David Jenkins     
If you are pulling up a 200-pound slalom skier, the 40 hp engine is not quite enough power. It is possible for a good skier to get up, but it is 20-second struggle with lots of water in the face. A 50 hp engine on the 13 is a much better choice, and the Honda 50 weighs the same as the 40 (i.e., about 200 pounds). Best of luck!
AZdave posted 09-15-2003 01:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for AZdave  Send Email to AZdave     
I have to agree with the other writers: this will work well with lighter skiers. Don't forget that the weight of the driver and observer have a dramatic effect on the planing speed for these small boats. If both you and the observer are light, you should be able to plane most skiers. Dave
skred posted 09-15-2003 08:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for skred  Send Email to skred     
My '89 13 Sport with 40 Yamaha would pull up a 165 lb. skier with 2 adults in the boat. It waorked a bit better with the passenger on the front locker until the boat planed, but it only took about 10 seconds overall to plane. Had plenty of speed and power. It was easier to start on 2 skis and drop one, however...
BQUICK posted 09-15-2003 10:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for BQUICK  Send Email to BQUICK     
Fine for pulling kids but any decent slalom skier will pull the boat all over the place. Can't make a good cut because there isn't enough resistance on your pull. I don't like seeing the speed drop more than a couple MPH on a cut.
I could see how 2 motors propped for skiing would hold better though.

Bruce

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