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onlyawhaler posted 09-29-2003 05:48 PM ET (US)   Profile for onlyawhaler   Send Email to onlyawhaler  
I found what I think is a great deal on a 2001 Johnson 150 ficht. It is new, unused. The cost is $5700 with no controls/oil tank. It doesn't say ficht on the cowling, but it is. I am somewhat aware of the early problems associated with this injection technology when it came out in the late 90s, but have heard they worked it out.

Is that a good price for a 2001, engine only deal?

I have an 88 carb Johnson on my 18OR. It is in great shape, but looking to retire it for a quieter, cleaner model. I am concerned about Yamahas 4 stroke 150 because of weight.

Any help or feedback from anyhone who has one of these later ficht models? Would existing shift/throttle/guages/ oil tank work? Would I be happy with this technology or is already a dated technology?

Thanks
Sterling

whalersman posted 09-29-2003 07:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     
Sterling,

Many people have a misconception about which engines had the FICHT technology... also know as FICHT Ram Injection....

All Johnson engines that I know of are carbureted, therefore they are not FICHT...
I am looking at my 2001 Johnson catalog and it states that the 150 has Two Triple Throated Carburetors... No Ram Injection or Direct Fuel Injection.

Only the newer Evinrude engines had the Ficht Ram Injection and now the even newer (DFI) Direct Fuel Injection, the Johnson's do not...

I hope this clears things up....

Joe

JBCornwell posted 09-29-2003 07:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
I believe that Ficht DFI was an option on 2001 V6 Johnsons. My son-in-law had a '99 Johnny 150 with Ficht. It blew up thrice before he gave up and bought a new one.

Without full upgrade to Bombardier specs and a Bombardier warranty I wouldn't touch it.

Red sky at night. . .
JB

Sal DiMercurio posted 09-29-2003 09:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sal DiMercurio  Send Email to Sal DiMercurio     
There is "NO" such animal as a 2001 Johnson Ficht.
All the Johnsons are either carbed or 4 stroke, the smaller engines are 4 stroke & the larger [ I think ] 140s & up are carbed 2 stroke.
I believe the Johnson Fichts were 1997 ...8 & before.
Sal
onlyawhaler posted 09-29-2003 09:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for onlyawhaler  Send Email to onlyawhaler     
Thanks guys,

I will call him and confirm carb in the morning. If it is a 2001 Johnson carb and not the inject model, am I basically looking at the same thing I have now? 88 Johnson carb/2001 carb? Same smoke, nothing really improved? If that is the case, is $5800 a good deal or should I hold for the new Etec motor comming out by them in a year or two?

Sterling

Sal DiMercurio posted 09-30-2003 12:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for Sal DiMercurio  Send Email to Sal DiMercurio     
I just made a deal for a buddy of mine for a [ new , never run ] 2001 / 150 hp Evinrude FICHT for $6,700 total.
Can get a new 2001 / 200 hp Evinrude DFI for $7,500., now your talking something much more powerful & fuel efficient then the old 2 stroke technology.
Don't let him BS you into believing it's a DFI engine because it's the same 60 degree carbed 2 stroke engine they have built for about 12 years now with minor changes.
Sal
Bigshot posted 09-30-2003 04:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
That is a great deal on the engine and no it is not the same as your 88. In 1991 or so they changed the 150 & 175 into a smaller 60 degree V6. It is quieter and smoother than your current engine and it is also NOT a Ficht. Johnson made the Ficht in 97-98 and in 99 Evinrude took over the Ficht.....it's too confusing. Buy the engine, you'll love it over your 88.
gvisko posted 09-30-2003 05:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for gvisko  Send Email to gvisko     
I have a new 2002 johnson 150 on my 18 outrage its a great
motor it ran a little rough during breakin(double oil) but after
20hr service it runs great (like a race horse) starts every
time likes to use gas but but it will blow by any other 150
its not the same as your 88 altogether different

george viskovich
18 83 outrage & 89 13'gls

gvisko posted 09-30-2003 05:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for gvisko  Send Email to gvisko     
Youre oil tank will have to be replaced also you need
harness adapter kit and system check tach and your set to go


george viskovich
18' 83 outrage 13' 89 gls

onlyawhaler posted 10-02-2003 02:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for onlyawhaler  Send Email to onlyawhaler     
Thanks guys for the help and great posts
Sterling

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