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11 Standard w/ 8hp
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posted 10-02-2003 09:40 PM ET (US)
I am considering a 11 Standard(210lb) with a new Evinrude 8hp 4-stroke. Will the boat plane with 1-190lb adult and 1-45lb 5yo boy? I don't want to set the water on fire, just do maybe 15MPH. This will strictly be used on smaller lakes for fishing where I don't need to go long distances. What is the performance if I add another adult?
Thanks for any input.
posted 10-02-2003 09:46 PM ET (US)
FISHNFF, I don't think so. I've been told by another guy who owned an 11 that a 9.9HP 2 stroke wouldn't do it either. Jim
posted 10-02-2003 10:25 PM ET (US)
BTW the 11 is a tiller. I guess I'd better wait for more info to flow in. The vessel is 4 hours away, but at a good price. If it won't work, no use. The 11' tiller was rated max 10hp, 20hp with a wheel. Hmm.
posted 10-02-2003 10:41 PM ET (US)
FISHNFF, I've got an 11 standard with a new Yamaha 15HP 2 stroke tiller. I find it to be a good combo. With that engine 3 adults can scoot around ok. I don't find it to be dangerous. I considered a 4 stroke 15 HP, which wasn't much more in cost. But I remove the engine after each use so the weight was too much for me to handle by myself. Good luck. Jim
posted 10-02-2003 11:56 PM ET (US)
Thanks Jim. It looks to be very close. I'm gonna talk to my Whaler dealer, just for his .02. Maybe propping can help. I've seen 13's with 9.9's (mine had a 50), so I figure an 8 on an 11 might be OK. I would also like it to troll trout. Thanks for your input.
posted 10-03-2003 08:33 AM ET (US)
If the 11' Whaler is a good deal you'll have some wiggle room if you find the Evinrude to be too small. I would think selling or trading a new 8hp 4 stroke would be fairly easy.
A good deal on a Whaler... great. A 5yo in a Whaler... priceless. :)
posted 10-03-2003 07:00 PM ET (US)
I had a 8hp on my 11-Sport from a short time.
With just you and your boy, you'll be able to plane if you move weaght around. Forget about another adult, the boat will be a pig with that much weaght.
What are you paying for the boat?
posted 10-04-2003 08:17 PM ET (US)
The boat sits on a nice Shoreline galvanized trailer with 12" tires. The 8hp is a 2002, and the only thing missing on the 11 is the middle bench seat. No rails and minor/normal spider cracks (2). I'm looking between 2 and 2.5k. Lower is always better.
Thanks for the input,
posted 10-04-2003 09:52 PM ET (US)
I've got an 11-Sport for sale.I'm asking a little over 3k, but its nicer boat and it will plane with you, your boy and another adult. Its also got a steering wheel, it will be much better for that 5y/o to learn to drive with then the tiller model.
See this link:
posted 10-04-2003 09:55 PM ET (US)
A new11-Tender powered with a 9.9 Merc listed for over 7grand in 1998. . . .. keep that in mind.
posted 10-04-2003 11:58 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the offer ryanwhaler. The hull has no bottompaint and the wood is pretty good. This will be just a little play around boat. My son learned first on my 13 Sport, then on my present 17 Alert/Montauk and Grady White 226 Seafarer. I actually want a tiller for more interior space. Looks like I'm picking it up next week for $2k.
Thanks for everyones input,
posted 10-05-2003 07:55 AM ET (US)
Glad to hear it FISHNFF.
Be sure to post a report on your new [used] Whaler. Oh yeah, and how FISHNFF Jr. likes it as well. :)
posted 10-05-2003 11:24 AM ET (US)
Enjoy your new boat FISHNFF. :-)
posted 10-05-2003 07:45 PM ET (US)
I had a Yamaha 8 4s, and it was wonderful.That sounds like a fun little boat. You can't go wrong for $2K.
posted 10-11-2003 10:44 AM ET (US)
I have an Sport 11' with a 1969 Chrysler 20 HP (less than 10 hours of usage), that I have recently restored and can be seen in my website: http://homepage.mac.com/rbruce63/ .
The motor seems a bit underpowered but I find that with two adults 6'2" and 185# each the motor will take the boat into plane very quickly but when loaded with out stuff and icebox for a long ride it took a while to get accustomed to get passed by other boats with larger engines.
My brother and I recently completed a 65 mile rally into the San Juan River in Nicaragua and took us over 5 hours to get there and the Whaler, well she is a Whaler! A great float, no need for deep water, very easy to control, I love my Whaler. We have little boating experience, this is a forgiving boat but we didn't venture into the Caribbean Sea for fishing this time!
I recommend that you use modern 15 or a 20 since the extra reserve power could be useful. You can always convert to steering and the consoles are still sold in the USA. Teleflex is a bit expensive but it is worth the extra control and your boat can handle a larger motor. You can still troll with my Chrysler 20 HP and you can still find parts for such a motor at Franz's Marine Service in Missouri but I believe that I have mechanical expertise and like to work with my old (not really) Chrysler, your case might be different.
Recently a Mercury 20 HP for 2003 costed less than $1700 which is a lot of money, you can still find a Force 25 HP or a recent Chrysler 25 HP for a lot less than that.
posted 10-11-2003 11:31 AM ET (US)
Welcome to the forum, rbruce.
I have a 11-Sport also, I have a modern 15hp Mercury. I looked at your pictures, no way is that Chrysler putting out 20hp. In the picture of WOT, it looks slower then my 1987 8hp Mercury did. You should have that motor checked out, somethings not right. Whats your top speed?
Your hull looks great! I love the custom wood you've got. I wish my hull looked a good as yours!
See pictures of my 11-Sport here: http://www.naples-fl.com/whaler/11.html
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