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|Author||Topic: Yamaha F90|
posted 10-16-2003 05:42 PM ET (US)
I'm looking to re-power my Montauk and have heard lots of good stuff about the Suzuki DF70. I haven't heard too much about the Yamaha F90. My local dealer has one that they are willing to sell for $6,500 + rigging. That seems like a good price. I can get the Evinrude 70 4-stroke (which I hear is the same as the Suzuki) for around $6,200 + rigging. Any opinions out there. Thanks.
posted 10-16-2003 05:51 PM ET (US)
How about an Evinrude e-tech 90? $6300.00 from [mentions a domain name currently unregistered].
posted 10-16-2003 05:55 PM ET (US)
Unable to locate [the domain name mentioned above because it is currently not registered, that is, it does not exist] - more info please. Thanks
posted 10-16-2003 06:06 PM ET (US)
The F90 is carbureted.
You can get a better price on a Suzi/Johnson EFI DF70.
Red sky at night. . .
posted 10-16-2003 06:13 PM ET (US)
I found the site www.edsmarinesuperstore.com
I looked at [their] Yamaha's webpage, noticed the F115 was EFI but not the F90. Definitely want an EFI motor if I'm going to spend the money. Still like the Suzuki/Evinrude, now just need to find the right price. Seems some on CW recommend staying away from Iboats for motors as they are used commercially with many hours on them.
posted 10-16-2003 08:21 PM ET (US)
It seems odd that a small player like SUZUKI could introduce the only 4-stroke motor with fuel injection and after several years only have one competitor, Mercury, match it with another 4-stroke fuel injected engine.
The YAMAHA 4-stroke motors seem to be stuck with carburetor induction, high weight and lackluster performance.
MERCURY does make a fuel injected 115-HP version of the 4-stroke, but in the 90-HP / 3-cylinder engines, I think only SUZUKI has a fuel injected engine.
In comparison, YAMAHA has seemed to be very slow to adopt any innovative technology in their 4-stroke engines. Of course, Mercury has been selling the existing 4-strokes (many of which are based on Yamaha power heads which in turn are probably adaptations from motor cycle engines). In the meanwhile, Mercury has been developing a totally new 4-stroke engine technology which leap frogs the current generation of outboard motors.
At the moment the 4-stroke market is really limited to older technology, heavy, under-performing engines. In this situation, the SUZUKI motors stand out as they alone have fuel injection, tuned intake and exhaust manifolds, and reasonable weight.
posted 10-17-2003 09:36 AM ET (US)
I did a lot of research on this site and for prices of Suzuki DF70s a few months ago. Check with John McKenna at Walsh Marine. (252) 447 - 2277. The deals may be gone on his large inventory, but when I checked he had the best prices by far. I was given a price, and it was also advertised on boat trader for an '02 Suzi DF70 new in box for $5,200 (not including controls or prop.) I was still able to negotiate a bit, but I don't think it would be fair to disclose the final results.
Also, if you are looking for a Yamaha, you might want to check with Central Florida Yamaha (863)465-6669. I was quoted a Yamaha 90 2s (3cyl.) for $5,126, and controls for $486. There's a better deal out there though, because my friend was quoted the same Yamaha for $4,750, but I don't have the Florida dealers name right now.
posted 10-17-2003 11:35 AM ET (US)
I believe Walsh is under $5k now if they have any left. I can get them all day long for under $5500 and have seen them as low as $4700 or so new. No matter WHAT engine you get, if you need controls etc let me know and I will give you the number for marine surplus who will ship to you. I paid $225 for new OMC controls that sell for $455. E-Bay is also a great place if you have the time.
posted 10-17-2003 01:13 PM ET (US)
If you want useful recommendations about iboats, talk to someone who has bought from them. They are the world's largest outboard retailer and have a reputation to protect.
Don't let idle gossip turn you off on a good source.
Last year at least 2 CW'ers bought off-lease '01 Evinrude/Suzuki DF70s from iboats and, I believe, were very happy with them. I am on the website 4 to 6 hours a day, 7/365 and have never heard a complaint about one of their engines, new or used.
My own experience with lease engines to guides and other pro watermen is that they get meticulous care (who wants to break down 30 miles from camp with clients aboard?).
In any event, warranty is included.
Red sky at night. . .
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