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John O posted 10-31-2003 09:50 PM ET (US)   Profile for John O  
I picked this up at my marina today to use this weekend.

Merc Part # 92-802846A-1

32 oz bottle

Is this the correct lube for a 2001 75hp Merc 2 stroke?

The owners manual does not list a part number or spec the correct oil. Is this older oil or old packaging?

What is the difference between this and QuickSilver?

Barney posted 11-01-2003 07:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for Barney  Send Email to Barney     
John, Is the lube green? If so should be the same as Quicksilver. I've used Merc brand and Quicksilver, they usually are green and the same. Jim
John O posted 11-01-2003 09:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for John O    
Thanks---I will check it out. My nain concern was with the age of the product. It had a date of 1999 on the label.
Dick posted 11-01-2003 10:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
The only difference between Mercury and Quicksilver lube is the bottle.
The Mercury brand is only sold to Mercury dealers the Quicksilver brand is available from many sources.

Dick

John O posted 11-01-2003 08:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for John O    
I bought this from a Mercury dealer. the lube is a light brown or dark amber not blue or green.
Dick posted 11-01-2003 10:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
John O

I am a Mercury dealer and buy both Mercury and Quicksilver gear lube depending on what is available at the time.
They are both the same product in different bottles.
Don't worry about what others tell you what the color should be. Any Mercury/Quicksilver premium or high performance gear lube is fine for your motor.

Dick

Barney posted 11-01-2003 10:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Barney  Send Email to Barney     
Well Dick is the Mercury dealer, I don't disagree that Mercury's lube is a good product. You asked if it might be old stock. Kinda suprised at the color myself. Everything I've bought in the last 3 years has been green. No big deal. Dick knows alot more about Merc lube than I do. So I defer to him as a Mercury dealer. Jim
John O posted 11-01-2003 11:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for John O    
Thanks guys.

jimh posted 11-02-2003 09:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I have noticed that the packaging of Mercury products, like their oils and other engine fluids, have changed in the past few years. The graphics and the color scheme of the labels have changed slightly. In some cases the name of the product appears to have changed slightly, too.

A new, off-the-shelf bottle with a 1999 date on it does sound like some older stock.

The parallel product lines of Mercury and Quicksilver does add more confusion. I like to look for a particular product by its appearance. When the package it comes in keeps changing it makes it harder to find, and it increases the chance you may grab the wrong product off the shelf.

I think the black bottles with black labels that have red graphics are the latest style (for Mercury branded items).

AQUANUT posted 11-02-2003 10:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for AQUANUT  Send Email to AQUANUT     
I heard a radio add once that said

if you buy the best that money can buy, and it fails...then there was nothing you could have done to prevent it from failing....i prefer hp {high performance} gear lube..why you ask?
more is usually better....how about this one..you get what you pay for...people who use/sell the other stuff..usually are considering cost as an important factor...I consider the longterm cost as a consumer...@ our merc/bw dealership..all svcs where gear lube is replaced...hp goes in...besides..its a pretty green color too...lol

Dick posted 11-02-2003 12:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
jimh

Merc added the Quicksilver brand several years ago so they could supply products to Walmart etc and not pee off us dealers to much by selling them Mercury products.
They have expanded this from just lubricants to consumer parts such as water pump kits.

I agree with you on the packaging. That black container with the red graphics looks good and is easy to spot.

Barney

Hard to say on the color as so many people see colors differently. I am color blind to a degree, I just opened a new tube and it looked kind of amber to me my wife said copper colored.

Aquanut

Good point. At our shop we also use nothing but high performance and that is all I sell over the counter. That doesn't mean that the premium is not a good lube, just that it is easier to deal with one product that fits all.

John O

No problem with the date on the container, that is probably just a copyright date. The container I opened this morning, a 10 oz tube, has a copyright date of 1998 but I know that it is new stock.

Dick

Moe posted 11-02-2003 01:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for Moe  Send Email to Moe     
I use the high-performance in my BigFoot for the same reasons.

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Moe

John O posted 11-03-2003 09:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for John O    
Dick, Thanks again. I agree that the date is most likely a copy right date.

This is the first time I am changing the gear lube on this motor.It is a 2001 75hp 2 stroke. I put 65 hours on it in the ocean this season. (The motor was purchased by me new this spring) It has the factory lube in it now. I just wanted to make sure. This is also the second time I have ever changed gear lube as it is my second season boating.

Like JimH has pointed out. The packaging is a bit confusing,especially for someone new to the brand like my self. A person really needs to read the packaging carefully.

I have been buying gallons of QuickSilver 2 stroke oil from Cosco for $11.99 per gallon vs 15.99 and up from the boat chain stores.

Thanks again for confirming the amber color.

John

bsmotril posted 11-03-2003 03:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for bsmotril  Send Email to bsmotril     
I've used both. The regular lube is colored like regular heavy gear oil. The premium lube is a synthetic and has a blue/green tint to it, just like the Premium plus oil the engines burn. The premium smells better too. It does not stink like an old dinosaur fart while the dino oil does.
BillS
TampaTom posted 11-05-2003 12:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for TampaTom  Send Email to TampaTom     
A common topic on this board has been the use of manufacture's 2 cycle oil vs. other (Penzoil, Havoline, etc.) I haven't seen a similar debate on gear oil. Does anyone use a good quality GL5 75w-90 synthetic like Mobil, Coastal, Amsoil instead of manufacture's? I just filled up with Mobil 1, but then I also use "Wally World" 2 cycle in my 82 Johnson

I was told by my OMC dealer that the fully synthetic will provide much better protection in case of water getting into the case.

Bigshot posted 11-05-2003 01:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Amber/brown=dinosaur guts.

Blue/green=synthetic

Mercury/mercruiser ALWAYS used Quicksilver as their product name at least since the 70's. Just like Johnson & Evinrude used OMC. In my 1977 Mercury brochure it says something like "always use quality quicksiler products" and show the oil, parts, and gauges, etc.

I think now that Merc has basically dropped Mariner, no need to use the Quicksilver logo.

i have also heard that in I/O's you should not use the synthetic unless the lower was flushed of the non-syn. I do not agree with this being in cars it is compatable as well in 2 stroke resevoirs.

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