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posted 11-11-2003 02:49 PM ET (US)
I have a 1966 Sakonnet which I want to repower.
It has a 1981 (rebuilt by former owner) 100 HP Johnson on it now. It is at max HP rating.
My Johnson dealer tells me that Bombardier may reintroduce a 100 Johnson 2 stroke.
I have seen one vintage Montauk (mahogany console and RPS) with a 90 HP Honda but did not get to talk with the owner about performance.
Has anyone had experience with this kind of setup?
Your input is most welcome.
Thanks in advance.
Bob on Tampa Bay
posted 11-11-2003 03:05 PM ET (US)
Bob....your 100 is equiv to about an 85 in todays standards and being 23 years old. Ficht makes a 100hp but like the Honda, way too heavy for an old blue in my opinion(380+/-). The new E-tec 2 stroke weighing in just over 300lbs for a 90hp is a great choice in that it weighs about the same as your current engine. That 90 E-Tec will walk past your old 100 and burn half the gas. The new e-tec is also $6200 which is cheaper than a Honda. If speed is no concern(38-39mph), look at the cheap suzukis in the market forum under the group buy thread. A new 70 4 stroke(350lbs and max I think in wight) can be had for $4800. Unfortunately the 90-140 Zukis weigh over 400lbs so forgetaboutit!
posted 11-11-2003 05:56 PM ET (US)
What's wrong with the Yamaha 90 two stroke at 261 pounds?
posted 11-11-2003 10:53 PM ET (US)
Good point. I had a Yamaha C85 (same basic motor) on two 17's, an oldy and a 1989 Newport 17. Really nice setup. Very light weight. The E-Tec's look like they have a great deal of potential, but the Yamaha is a proven design and I think boats.net had 'em for $5,500.
I would prefer to wait a year to see how the E-Tec's do, but that's just me being a conservative yankee.
I certainly agree that the Honda 90 and other heavy 4 strokes is too much weight. Stay under 300 lbs!
posted 11-12-2003 12:18 PM ET (US)
I don't think I need to mention EVERY outboard choice on the planet. He asked about a Honda 90 4 stroke. There are no 90 4 strokes that "I" would put on an old blue due to weight. The 90 Yamaha 2 stroke is a great engine but performance wise is a dog compared to a V4 OMC(no offense). I have said MANY times that the 90 Yamaha performs more like a 75-80hp engine.
posted 11-12-2003 01:53 PM ET (US)
As an owner of a Whaler 16' hull for 17 years, powered with a 300 lb 115HP Merc 6, and a Merc 8 HP pony motor at 75 lbs,
and with battery in the stern corner, I can say that the boat can handle a 375# engine, such as a Yamaha/Merc 90 4-stroke (don't know what the Honda weighs). Being lighter in weight, but with the same hull dimensions, this boat has BETTER bouyancy than the newer hull. All of this assumes, of course, that the transom is sound.
posted 11-12-2003 02:49 PM ET (US)
Thank you all:-)
Since I am not facing an emergency repowering and since the Johnson has been a good unit, I may bide my time and take a serious look at the E-Tec 90. I like doing business with the OMC dealer.
Thanks again for saving me lots of time hunting and lots of $$$ :-)
Bob on Tampa Bay
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