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daverdla posted 02-06-2004 07:41 AM ET (US)   Profile for daverdla   Send Email to daverdla  
I believe this motor was previously discussed on the forum. I just saw it listed in the Harbor Freight catalog for $700.00. Has anyone used one or seen it in action? I've always liked B&S engines. I've used them on minibikes, go-karts, snowblowers, lawn mowers, and all the usual stuff. If I ever got a engine to strap on the back of the montauk, I would mind a little BS.

Thanks
Dave

jimh posted 02-06-2004 09:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Think of it this way, if you get tired of boating you can probably retrofit it to your lawn mower. :-)

Don't really know--have not heard much of this motor.

DaveNJ posted 02-06-2004 11:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for DaveNJ  Send Email to DaveNJ     
One caution: This is a fresh water only motor and using it in salt water will void the warranty.
where2 posted 02-06-2004 01:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for where2  Send Email to where2     
So, I wonder which engine Mfg you go visit to purchase a replacement prop. The lawnmower shop, or the yamaha/merc/omc/suzi outboard dealer? :-)

Realistically, for a 4stroke in the 5hp size, that's a steal. Fortunately, I don't have any kids who would be begging me to buy one. It's still gotta sound like my Snapper when it's running 4,000rpm...

Gep posted 02-06-2004 01:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for Gep  Send Email to Gep     
How heavy is it?
You could always use it for a weed-whacker. :)
daverdla posted 02-06-2004 02:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for daverdla  Send Email to daverdla     
I think it's about 60lbs. Not too bad. I didn't realize it was only for fresh water. No joy there. I'm strictly a saltwater boater.

jimh, your idea is a good one! I'm currently using my leaf blower engine on a 30 odd year old jacobson snowblower. It's a tank. The old jacobson two stroke gave up many years ago. I use to put my edger engine on it but it wasn't powerful enough.

Dave

cmarques posted 02-06-2004 07:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for cmarques  Send Email to cmarques     
They have one on display at Bass Pro Shops- freshwater only but you can get Realtree camo woods finish ;)
Clark Roberts posted 02-07-2004 09:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for Clark Roberts  Send Email to Clark Roberts     
The B&S outboards that I have seen (also the Eska) have had water cooled exhaust but air cooled head/block and the air cooling fins get very, very hot! My experience was years ago so designs may be quite different now days. Happy Whalin'... Clark.. Spruce Creek Navy
Landlocked posted 02-12-2004 12:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for Landlocked  Send Email to Landlocked     
There used to be an old fisherman we would see regularily on the Oconee River, Georgia below Sinclair Dam who used about a 5hp air cooled engine on his jon boat.

We were using tunnel hull boats and at least one jet drive motor for a large project we were doing. The tunnel hulls and jet drives would go great until they sucked up half a sandbar. We would fly by the Ol' guy trying to get to our next sampling station. 30 minutes later he would chug by us while were were stuck on the bank trying to clean out our motors.

The old guys air-cooled engine was the perfect set-up for the shallow sandy river. He never worried about sucking up sand - just plowed right on through the shallow areas.


Ll.

Landlocked posted 02-12-2004 01:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Landlocked  Send Email to Landlocked     
By the way, I'm looking at the Harbor Freight catalog right now.

Here are the specs:

Forward-neutral reverse gear shift with tiller handle control

Pattented overspeed protection

Three blade aluminum prop

Magnetron electronic ignition

3-gallon remote tank

EPA/CARB compliant

2.688"bore, 2.04" stroke; 11.5 cu.inch displacement; 1.57:1 gear ratio; Propeller pitch: 8" -7.8" Speeds 1,400rpm idle, 4000rpm full throttle, Weight 56lbs.

ryanwhaler posted 02-12-2004 02:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for ryanwhaler  Send Email to ryanwhaler     
Does anyone know why its for freashwater only?

What do othe motors have that this one lacks?

Abaco posted 02-12-2004 04:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for Abaco  Send Email to Abaco     
The engine is strait off a lawn mower. It would disolve before your eyes if you put it in salt water.
Whalerdan posted 02-15-2004 09:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdan  Send Email to Whalerdan     
I don't know I agree with that. If you keep it flushed out good after every use and sprayed down with WD40 I'm guessing it would last at least a couple/three years. Then when something went, just replace it with SS parts or just new OEM. The head and block have to be made out of the same thing everything else is. There just aren't that many alternatives. The nice thing is it is small and you can get it off the boat easily to make sure you cleaned it up good.

Having mostly boated in saltwater, I think if you properly take care of your stuff, it lasts a long time. It is a little worse, but it's not like boating in acid or something. I think B&S is just CYA.

greyg8r posted 02-17-2004 07:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for greyg8r    
Why is everyone being so d--n politically correct?!!! Yes, it is US made and yes, Briggs and Stratton has been around forever, but, seriously, who would trust and use a Briggs engine for powering anything more serious than their kids' go-kart?

You rarely, if ever, see professional workers use Briggs to power their important machinery for which they make their livelihood (e.g., pressure washers, generators, gas compressors) because these workers know that four stroke overhead valve or overhead cam engines like Honda (and a few others) or two strokes have much better quality control, are lighter, more reliable and less noisy, but more expensive.

Now, if Briggs were to make a 90 horse, there might be a market with Bayliner...

just my (very strong ;<) 2 cent opinion.

Richard

Landlocked posted 02-17-2004 01:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for Landlocked  Send Email to Landlocked     
I've been through several of the smaller briggs motors in recent years and frankly, I'd agree they are junk. I ended up buying a commercial Toro Hydro with a Kholer engine this year and justified it by figuring it would save me money in the long run by not having to buy a new push mower every year.

Its funny to think that growing up we had a push mower with a briggs motor that lasted my whole childhood. Things have certainly changed quality wise.

cmarques posted 02-17-2004 07:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for cmarques  Send Email to cmarques     
I've long believed that briggs and stratton seems to supply higher quality engines to different brands of equipment than others. I've gone through several "cheap" lawn mowers with B&S engines that gave out in a year or 2. My last one gave up after 2 years with no compression at all. But my 20 year old Snapper with a 3.5 B&S that sat 9 years in my parents garage untouched has been in use the last 3 years with an oil change and a new plug never takes more than 3-4 pulls to start.

Chris

Landlocked posted 02-18-2004 10:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for Landlocked  Send Email to Landlocked     
The last 2 I had litterally blew the piston through the side of the block. Both were mounted on a John Deer 336. The first went after 2 seasons. The second didn't make it through one.

I will say that their larger engines, 16hp + seem to do pretty well. I have an 80's model rider I use for mulching leaves in the fall that still runs like a champ.

Anyway - I guess we are wondering a little too far away from BW - better get back on topic.

Ll.

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