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guido19 posted 03-08-2004 12:52 AM ET (US)
I just bought a OUTAGE 21 with a 225-HP Yamaha. What size seas it can comfortably handle in NJ? Is it large enough to take around the Statue of Liberty or Manhatten?
jimh posted 03-08-2004 08:38 AM ET (US)
[Changed TOPIC; was "comfort and performance."]
Please state the model year. There are many boats made by Boston Whaler in a 21 OUTRAGE designation.
guido19 posted 03-08-2004 09:00 AM ET (US)
The boat is a 1995 21 ft. outrage hope that helps.
DaveH posted 03-08-2004 10:54 AM ET (US)
Guido19:
The boat, yes. Is the new owner experienced enough?
bricknj posted 03-08-2004 11:21 AM ET (US)
Guido,
Where will you launch out of? Mansaquan or Shark river? Highlands? Will should be travelling parallel to the shore north, and through the Raritan bay area?
I will be making similar trips in a Nantucket. Your boat is fine. Your experience is the key. Make sure you have VHF and maybe another experienced boater with you.
PS Post 9/11 there are many regulations that are in flux regarding small craft in NY Harbor. You need to check with the coast guard for the exact details. It is bad enough dodging ferrys, tankers, and cruise ships...and the wakes they generate. But you don't want to be dodging warning shots across your bow :)
rtk posted 03-08-2004 02:01 PM ET (US)
Hi Guido19
I purchased my 1997 21 Outrage, 1997 225 Mercury October 2003. The day I took delivery the wind was about 15-20+ from the south and I was into the wind the whole trip back through Point Pleasant Canal and down Barnegat Bay to Bayville. The current in the canal that day was terrible (I think a small boat capsized that day) and the bay gets pretty choppy in the afternoon from a good south wind. Handled great through the canal and like a dream in the 2-3 foot chop- I pushed the boat pretty good and stayed nice and dry, very comfortable. Fished a few times outside Barnegat Inlet and the boat handled very well and very dry. One day the ocean was about 3-5 foot or so and very close together- heading back to the inlet against it the boat did pound a little. Just backed off her a bit and all was fine.
Only negative thing that I have experienced is some bow steer in a following sea or crossing a boat wake- boat wants to "track" and I could not pull her out of it. Could be the way I had the boat trimmed- I do not have enough hours on the boat to tell- still trying to "learn" her. I am repowering and I am going to play with different props and trim positions to see if I can correct this. The boat came with a 19P Laser II stainless & it has been suggested that this may not be an appropriate prop for the boat.
Great advice above- your experience level with boats and sea conditions will determine your limits with this boat. Use it locally in different conditions before venturing too far. My first impression of this boat is that it is very capable and comfortable- good luck with her- I love mine!
Rich

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Author	Topic: OUTRAGE 21 Seaworthiness
guido19	posted 03-08-2004 12:52 AM ET (US) I just bought a OUTAGE 21 with a 225-HP Yamaha. What size seas it can comfortably handle in NJ? Is it large enough to take around the Statue of Liberty or Manhatten?
jimh	posted 03-08-2004 08:38 AM ET (US) [Changed TOPIC; was "comfort and performance."] Please state the model year. There are many boats made by Boston Whaler in a 21 OUTRAGE designation.
guido19	posted 03-08-2004 09:00 AM ET (US) The boat is a 1995 21 ft. outrage hope that helps.
DaveH	posted 03-08-2004 10:54 AM ET (US) Guido19: The boat, yes. Is the new owner experienced enough?
bricknj	posted 03-08-2004 11:21 AM ET (US) Guido, Where will you launch out of? Mansaquan or Shark river? Highlands? Will should be travelling parallel to the shore north, and through the Raritan bay area? I will be making similar trips in a Nantucket. Your boat is fine. Your experience is the key. Make sure you have VHF and maybe another experienced boater with you. PS Post 9/11 there are many regulations that are in flux regarding small craft in NY Harbor. You need to check with the coast guard for the exact details. It is bad enough dodging ferrys, tankers, and cruise ships...and the wakes they generate. But you don't want to be dodging warning shots across your bow :)
rtk	posted 03-08-2004 02:01 PM ET (US) Hi Guido19 I purchased my 1997 21 Outrage, 1997 225 Mercury October 2003. The day I took delivery the wind was about 15-20+ from the south and I was into the wind the whole trip back through Point Pleasant Canal and down Barnegat Bay to Bayville. The current in the canal that day was terrible (I think a small boat capsized that day) and the bay gets pretty choppy in the afternoon from a good south wind. Handled great through the canal and like a dream in the 2-3 foot chop- I pushed the boat pretty good and stayed nice and dry, very comfortable. Fished a few times outside Barnegat Inlet and the boat handled very well and very dry. One day the ocean was about 3-5 foot or so and very close together- heading back to the inlet against it the boat did pound a little. Just backed off her a bit and all was fine. Only negative thing that I have experienced is some bow steer in a following sea or crossing a boat wake- boat wants to "track" and I could not pull her out of it. Could be the way I had the boat trimmed- I do not have enough hours on the boat to tell- still trying to "learn" her. I am repowering and I am going to play with different props and trim positions to see if I can correct this. The boat came with a 19P Laser II stainless & it has been suggested that this may not be an appropriate prop for the boat. Great advice above- your experience level with boats and sea conditions will determine your limits with this boat. Use it locally in different conditions before venturing too far. My first impression of this boat is that it is very capable and comfortable- good luck with her- I love mine! Rich