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screamin whaler posted 03-31-2004 07:42 PM ET (US)   Profile for screamin whaler   Send Email to screamin whaler  
I was just wondering of all of the people on this site, who has the fastest whaler? With the exception of sheriff's whalers, I haven't seen one go a true 70 m.p.h. I have a friend that is close, but not quite. Just a little curious. Hope to get some responses, maybe even get some new people to run with out here on the weekends on Lake St. Clair.
JBCornwell posted 03-31-2004 08:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
According to the Minnesota State Highway Patrol, my Montauk has exceeded 80mph.

On an identical thread a year or so ago I think Bigshot got the "prize" for the fastest Whaler. Some obscene number like 90mph, wasn't it Biggie?

Boston Whalers are not the best boats to dare death in. If you are going to do something that stupid it is more appropriate to do it in a Bayliner.

Red sky at night. . .
JB

screamin whaler posted 03-31-2004 11:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for screamin whaler  Send Email to screamin whaler     
bayliner, that's cute i like that!!!

yeah, I know that they aren't suposed to go fast just because of the design, but it's fun to try.

just out of cuorisity, what rig was bigshot going 80 in?

sorry that I missed that post last year, just found this site.

Chuck Tribolet posted 04-01-2004 12:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
I think the record probably belongs to the USCG Port Security
teams, which have shipped whalers in C5s and such, Several
hundred knots.


Chuck

Knot at Work posted 04-01-2004 10:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for Knot at Work  Send Email to Knot at Work     
The Iranian Islamist Republican Guard, drive their's pretty fast. They purchased quite a few Whalers from 3rd party countries and it is not uncommon to see them in the middle of the night, hauling Allah across the Straits of Hormuz to smuggle camel dung or whatever they do....

brisboats posted 04-01-2004 12:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for brisboats  Send Email to brisboats     
If I had a hitch on my 911 I think I could put up some respectable numbers. I remember an experienced guy last year claiming GPS verified high 50's maybe low 60's with a 115 merc in line six powered pre smirk Montauk. I have the same power on mine but have never felt the need to attempt death. No matter how good of a helmsman you are the basic premise remains, whalers are not racing hulls. Screamin Whaler you have some numbers you want to share?

Brian

sumnerdav posted 04-01-2004 04:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for sumnerdav  Send Email to sumnerdav     
Knot at Work's comments are true!
ryanwhaler posted 04-01-2004 04:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for ryanwhaler  Send Email to ryanwhaler     
My Sport-11 saw 85-90mph while on her trailer on the way back from Maine two years ago, but on the water she tops out in the low 20's ;-)

Me new boat, a Montauk with a 70hp OMC should run mid to high 30's, guess I won't be breaking any records, or at leaset not while traveling over water.

dlmenius posted 04-01-2004 09:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for dlmenius  Send Email to dlmenius     
I recall friends at Wrightsville Beach telling a story about their dad having a drink, bumping the throttle, falling out the back, and then promptly naming the vessel the "M/F Runaway." The "M/F" stood for Mighty Fast. After the kids got a little older, dad came clean about the "M/F." It was Mighty fast for a few years though. How fast? Mighty Fast.

James posted 04-02-2004 09:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for James  Send Email to James     
dlmenius:

Hysterical stuff!

Frankly, I am not too impressed with the concept of going very fast in our New York/New Jersey bay waters. Too many opportunities to hit broken pilings, sunken logs, etc.

James.

jimh posted 04-02-2004 09:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
[Changed TOPIC; was "Who has got the fastest? I really have a strong dislike for the creeping infestation into our common speech of this nasty little critter the "got" helper, or as one might now more commonly say, I have got tired of this.]

I believe that the United States military has airlifted many Boston Whaler boats in transport aircraft, so I am certain they hold the record for fastest, probably in the neighborhood of 400 MPH.

Swellmonster posted 04-05-2004 11:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for Swellmonster  Send Email to Swellmonster     
1998 20 Outrage, 225 EFI, 53 MPH GPS
Bigshot posted 04-05-2004 03:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
NO whaler will do 70 nor come close unless GROSSLY overpowered. If you do run faster than Sal(60mph) in a Whaler, you have a deathwish as there are reasons why companies make "fast" boats such as Eliminator, Sutphen, Baja, etc. Although it is possible to get one doing over 60, it would take a boatload of HP. Most boats have a theoretical "hull speed". In order to break this hull speed by 10mph, you need to DOUBLE the HP. So basically for a 16' montauk which will do 45 with a 100hp, she would do maybe 60 with a 200hp. To run 70 it may take 400hp which is IMPOSSIBLE to do. A 21' Checkmate which is designed for speed(and bigger) will, with the same 200hp, run 70+......am I making sense here?

Many people have come here stating their 13' goes 50mph with a 50hp on it or their 17' does 55mph with a 115, etc....bull! Never believe what ANYONE claims is their top speed unless you are sitting IN the boat with YOUR handheld GPS(not their speedo or GPS). The ONLY one who I believe has gone 60 in a Whaler is Sal. I have gone over 50 and to most people they would SWEAR on their 1st born's life I was doing Mach 1.

BQUICK posted 04-05-2004 04:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for BQUICK  Send Email to BQUICK     
The Natural Resources police in RI used to run 115 Mercs on their 16 footers. One had a 135 but for some reason was slower than the 115s.
Even with all their junk in there the guy claimed 51 (with the 115), fully trimmed out when he clocked me (he was a friend of mine) doing 48 in my 13 footer with a 50 Merc with power trim, 2 blade bronze 17 in pitch prop.

But sorry this must be BS because there were no GPS's back then....

Bruce

Chuck Tribolet posted 04-05-2004 10:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
Hull speed has to do with speed NOT ON PLANE. The longer the
boat, the higher the hull speed. It varies a little based
on the hull design, but it's mostly a function of the length.
The hull speed of a Montauk is like 5 knots. The hull speed
of an aircraft carrier is like 35 knots.

To go beyond hull speed, you need bunches more power to GET
it on plane, but then not that much to KEEP it on plane.

MMMM, planing aircraft carriers. 1000' long, 100+ knots,
wouldn't need the weight of catapults anymore. And would
throw a real monkey wrench into to the plans of the bad guys.
Those planing CVNs could show up off their coast in no time.
Go Navy!


Chuck

Knot at Work posted 04-06-2004 10:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for Knot at Work  Send Email to Knot at Work     
Chuck,

a 97,000 ton Aircraft Carrier on plane witha 37 foot draft..... Scary!

where2 posted 04-06-2004 12:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for where2  Send Email to where2     
15' Sport, 70Hp OMC, 50mph. (like a gocart on water)
Lee County Sheriff's Dept: 25' Frontier with twin 225hp Optimaxes on a whalerdrive, low 60's...
Bigshot posted 04-07-2004 10:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
go to www.scaryfast.com and ask about hull speeds and hp it takes to get there, you may get a better answer.

Friend had a 21' 4 winns that came with a 4cyl and did 35mph. He dropped in a 260hp 350 and she did 55mph. He put No2 on it and it did 57. He then supercharged it and it did 57. He then dropped in a 420hp 454 and it did 58. You can only make a turd go so fast down the drain....making sense now?

Bigshot posted 04-07-2004 10:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Sorry that was a 19' not 21'

Bquick....I had a 15' whaler with a 70hp Merc and a 17" prop which has the same gear ratio as the 50hp and she would do 38 mph at 5650rpms. How is it your 13 did 48 when the 50 is rated at 5500 rpms I believe? Were you spinning about 7000rpms?

Ran into a guy with a 13' supersport with a 3cyl 70hp Johnson and he was VERY disappointed in it only did 43mph. Funny thing is my 15' with the same engine(tweaked) would hit about 48 on a good day. A 15' hull is FASTER than a 13' by design. My friend had a 35 on his 15' and he was faster than my 13' running identical engines and props and RPMs. It is all DESIGN, not necessarily hp and hence why a 17' will plane with a 40hp on it and a 13' with a 9.9.

BQUICK posted 04-07-2004 11:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for BQUICK  Send Email to BQUICK     
BIGSHOT:
But the thing is the only way I could run quick in a 13 is to get the lousy hull out of the water with the power trim to the point that the exhaust got loud. Only way I found to avoid chimewalk way to get the hull out of the picture only a few feet in and a super roostertail.
It turns 6000-6200 rpm.
Remember getting the hull out reduces slippage thus the speed increase though rpms don't rise in proportion.

Bruce

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