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Who has the fastest?
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posted 03-31-2004 07:42 PM ET (US)
I was just wondering of all of the people on this site, who has the fastest whaler? With the exception of sheriff's whalers, I haven't seen one go a true 70 m.p.h. I have a friend that is close, but not quite. Just a little curious. Hope to get some responses, maybe even get some new people to run with out here on the weekends on Lake St. Clair.
posted 03-31-2004 08:46 PM ET (US)
According to the Minnesota State Highway Patrol, my Montauk has exceeded 80mph.
On an identical thread a year or so ago I think Bigshot got the "prize" for the fastest Whaler. Some obscene number like 90mph, wasn't it Biggie?
Boston Whalers are not the best boats to dare death in. If you are going to do something that stupid it is more appropriate to do it in a Bayliner.
Red sky at night. . .
posted 03-31-2004 11:36 PM ET (US)
bayliner, that's cute i like that!!!
yeah, I know that they aren't suposed to go fast just because of the design, but it's fun to try.
just out of cuorisity, what rig was bigshot going 80 in?
sorry that I missed that post last year, just found this site.
posted 04-01-2004 12:39 AM ET (US)
I think the record probably belongs to the USCG Port Security
teams, which have shipped whalers in C5s and such, Several
|Knot at Work||
posted 04-01-2004 10:16 AM ET (US)
The Iranian Islamist Republican Guard, drive their's pretty fast. They purchased quite a few Whalers from 3rd party countries and it is not uncommon to see them in the middle of the night, hauling Allah across the Straits of Hormuz to smuggle camel dung or whatever they do....
posted 04-01-2004 12:46 PM ET (US)
If I had a hitch on my 911 I think I could put up some respectable numbers. I remember an experienced guy last year claiming GPS verified high 50's maybe low 60's with a 115 merc in line six powered pre smirk Montauk. I have the same power on mine but have never felt the need to attempt death. No matter how good of a helmsman you are the basic premise remains, whalers are not racing hulls. Screamin Whaler you have some numbers you want to share?
posted 04-01-2004 04:03 PM ET (US)
Knot at Work's comments are true!
posted 04-01-2004 04:25 PM ET (US)
My Sport-11 saw 85-90mph while on her trailer on the way back from Maine two years ago, but on the water she tops out in the low 20's ;-)
Me new boat, a Montauk with a 70hp OMC should run mid to high 30's, guess I won't be breaking any records, or at leaset not while traveling over water.
posted 04-01-2004 09:32 PM ET (US)
I recall friends at Wrightsville Beach telling a story about their dad having a drink, bumping the throttle, falling out the back, and then promptly naming the vessel the "M/F Runaway." The "M/F" stood for Mighty Fast. After the kids got a little older, dad came clean about the "M/F." It was Mighty fast for a few years though. How fast? Mighty Fast.
posted 04-02-2004 09:42 PM ET (US)
Frankly, I am not too impressed with the concept of going very fast in our New York/New Jersey bay waters. Too many opportunities to hit broken pilings, sunken logs, etc.
posted 04-02-2004 09:48 PM ET (US)
[Changed TOPIC; was "Who has got the fastest? I really have a strong dislike for the creeping infestation into our common speech of this nasty little critter the "got" helper, or as one might now more commonly say, I have got tired of this.]
I believe that the United States military has airlifted many Boston Whaler boats in transport aircraft, so I am certain they hold the record for fastest, probably in the neighborhood of 400 MPH.
posted 04-05-2004 11:23 AM ET (US)
1998 20 Outrage, 225 EFI, 53 MPH GPS
posted 04-05-2004 03:42 PM ET (US)
NO whaler will do 70 nor come close unless GROSSLY overpowered. If you do run faster than Sal(60mph) in a Whaler, you have a deathwish as there are reasons why companies make "fast" boats such as Eliminator, Sutphen, Baja, etc. Although it is possible to get one doing over 60, it would take a boatload of HP. Most boats have a theoretical "hull speed". In order to break this hull speed by 10mph, you need to DOUBLE the HP. So basically for a 16' montauk which will do 45 with a 100hp, she would do maybe 60 with a 200hp. To run 70 it may take 400hp which is IMPOSSIBLE to do. A 21' Checkmate which is designed for speed(and bigger) will, with the same 200hp, run 70+......am I making sense here?
Many people have come here stating their 13' goes 50mph with a 50hp on it or their 17' does 55mph with a 115, etc....bull! Never believe what ANYONE claims is their top speed unless you are sitting IN the boat with YOUR handheld GPS(not their speedo or GPS). The ONLY one who I believe has gone 60 in a Whaler is Sal. I have gone over 50 and to most people they would SWEAR on their 1st born's life I was doing Mach 1.
posted 04-05-2004 04:28 PM ET (US)
The Natural Resources police in RI used to run 115 Mercs on their 16 footers. One had a 135 but for some reason was slower than the 115s.
Even with all their junk in there the guy claimed 51 (with the 115), fully trimmed out when he clocked me (he was a friend of mine) doing 48 in my 13 footer with a 50 Merc with power trim, 2 blade bronze 17 in pitch prop.
But sorry this must be BS because there were no GPS's back then....
posted 04-05-2004 10:01 PM ET (US)
Hull speed has to do with speed NOT ON PLANE. The longer the
boat, the higher the hull speed. It varies a little based
on the hull design, but it's mostly a function of the length.
The hull speed of a Montauk is like 5 knots. The hull speed
of an aircraft carrier is like 35 knots.
To go beyond hull speed, you need bunches more power to GET
MMMM, planing aircraft carriers. 1000' long, 100+ knots,
|Knot at Work||
posted 04-06-2004 10:12 AM ET (US)
a 97,000 ton Aircraft Carrier on plane witha 37 foot draft..... Scary!
posted 04-06-2004 12:53 PM ET (US)
15' Sport, 70Hp OMC, 50mph. (like a gocart on water)
Lee County Sheriff's Dept: 25' Frontier with twin 225hp Optimaxes on a whalerdrive, low 60's...
posted 04-07-2004 10:48 AM ET (US)
go to www.scaryfast.com and ask about hull speeds and hp it takes to get there, you may get a better answer.
Friend had a 21' 4 winns that came with a 4cyl and did 35mph. He dropped in a 260hp 350 and she did 55mph. He put No2 on it and it did 57. He then supercharged it and it did 57. He then dropped in a 420hp 454 and it did 58. You can only make a turd go so fast down the drain....making sense now?
posted 04-07-2004 10:54 AM ET (US)
Sorry that was a 19' not 21'
Bquick....I had a 15' whaler with a 70hp Merc and a 17" prop which has the same gear ratio as the 50hp and she would do 38 mph at 5650rpms. How is it your 13 did 48 when the 50 is rated at 5500 rpms I believe? Were you spinning about 7000rpms?
Ran into a guy with a 13' supersport with a 3cyl 70hp Johnson and he was VERY disappointed in it only did 43mph. Funny thing is my 15' with the same engine(tweaked) would hit about 48 on a good day. A 15' hull is FASTER than a 13' by design. My friend had a 35 on his 15' and he was faster than my 13' running identical engines and props and RPMs. It is all DESIGN, not necessarily hp and hence why a 17' will plane with a 40hp on it and a 13' with a 9.9.
posted 04-07-2004 11:17 AM ET (US)
But the thing is the only way I could run quick in a 13 is to get the lousy hull out of the water with the power trim to the point that the exhaust got loud. Only way I found to avoid chimewalk way to get the hull out of the picture only a few feet in and a super roostertail.
It turns 6000-6200 rpm.
Remember getting the hull out reduces slippage thus the speed increase though rpms don't rise in proportion.
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