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Kelly posted 04-15-2004 01:36 PM ET (US)
I was just looking at the sepcifications and wondering. The 60 hp E-TEC is virtually the same weight and displacement as the 70/60 hp Yamaha 2 stroke. E-TEC - 235 pounds and 863cc. Yamaha - 228 pounds and 849cc. The E-TEC is two cylinder and the Yamaha is 3 cylinder. In various discussoins, the Yamaha 70hp motor has been mentioned as a good fit for the Montauk. Given the + or - 10% on the hp rating, it may be that the E-TEC 60 and the Yamaha 70 are very close in performance. While the Montauk seems to be able to handle heavier motors, there is something appealing to me about the lighter weight. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this topic?
Kelly
CHRISWEIGHT posted 04-15-2004 02:30 PM ET (US)
from the point of view of configuration 3 cylinder engines run far smoother than twins in my experience so it would be a Yamaha for me.
Bigshot posted 04-15-2004 03:55 PM ET (US)
You are comparing apples to oranges being the E-Tec is DFI and costs WAY more than the 70 Yamaha. If you want 2 stroke and light weight get the 90 Yamaha at 261lbs. If you have the Yamaha already look into them or Mercury being you can keep your controls and save $400.
Personally I have owned the lightweight and heavyweight engines and although lightweight apleals to me more....in fact it makes the boat ride rougher. The heavier engines smooth out the ride being more weight is aft. I personally think the 70hp Suzuki 4 stroke at roughly $5k is the best engine for a 17'.
Kelly posted 04-16-2004 04:41 PM ET (US)
I was using the Yamaha comparison more as a guage of the suitability of the 60 hp E-TEC. In other words, if the 60 hp E-TEC performs about the same as the 70 hp 2 stroke Yamaha, then it may be a good selection for a Montauk repower.
It seems like, of the new emission compliant motor offerings, the current front runners are the 70hp 4 stroke Suzuki, the 90 hp E-TEC, and the 60 hp 4 stroke Mercury. I was just wondering if the 60 hp E-TEC might fit somewhere in that group. Lighter but not as powerful, fuel efficient, or quiet as the Suzuki. Less powerful, less expensive(about $1,000 according to Ed'S), and lighter than the 90 hp E-TEC. Maybe slightly better power, but less fuel efficient that the Mercury, I don't know. It is also supposed to have lower maintenance requirements.
Kelly
John from IL posted 04-16-2004 05:57 PM ET (US)
How soon are you planning on repowering? The E-TEC 60 isn't available yet.
The 75 or 90 E-TEC tip the scales around 315/320 lbs or so. I recently test drove the 90 on 3 different boats (a pontoon, a small fiberglass v-hull run-about and a 17' Statos bass boat) I found it to be quieter, smoother and to have better running qualities and performance than the Honda or Yamaha 4-strokes (which are both carbureted) which I've also run.
-John
Kelly posted 04-18-2004 11:44 AM ET (US)
John,
It seems like I am always thinking of repowering. If I could get my current motor working properly, I would keep it and see what happens over the next year or so. If not, I will probably act in time for summer.
Kelly
Bigshot posted 04-19-2004 01:54 PM ET (US)
My main issue with the 6 E-tec is it is only 2cyl which I think will lack the torque on a heavy montauk.
rbruce posted 04-25-2004 02:15 PM ET (US)
Big Shot:
You could then decrease propeller pitch 2 inches to compensate for loss of torque in the E-Tec.
Backfire posted 04-26-2004 05:13 PM ET (US)
I would not count on loss of torque until the facts are in.
Backfire
unsinkable_2000 posted 04-27-2004 07:31 AM ET (US)
I just drove a mid 80's Montauk with a 75 e-tec repower and that boat boogied right along, excellent hole-shot and quick to plane. I know you would not get this exact response from an e-tec 60 but with it's low weight and good relative performance I really think it would perform fairly well. Love to know how it turns out.
Bigshot posted 04-27-2004 01:11 PM ET (US)
You can also pitch a 30hp to plane a Montauk as well ;)

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Author	Topic: E-TEC 60 hp for Montauk?
Kelly	posted 04-15-2004 01:36 PM ET (US) I was just looking at the sepcifications and wondering. The 60 hp E-TEC is virtually the same weight and displacement as the 70/60 hp Yamaha 2 stroke. E-TEC - 235 pounds and 863cc. Yamaha - 228 pounds and 849cc. The E-TEC is two cylinder and the Yamaha is 3 cylinder. In various discussoins, the Yamaha 70hp motor has been mentioned as a good fit for the Montauk. Given the + or - 10% on the hp rating, it may be that the E-TEC 60 and the Yamaha 70 are very close in performance. While the Montauk seems to be able to handle heavier motors, there is something appealing to me about the lighter weight. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this topic? Kelly
CHRISWEIGHT	posted 04-15-2004 02:30 PM ET (US) from the point of view of configuration 3 cylinder engines run far smoother than twins in my experience so it would be a Yamaha for me.
Bigshot	posted 04-15-2004 03:55 PM ET (US) You are comparing apples to oranges being the E-Tec is DFI and costs WAY more than the 70 Yamaha. If you want 2 stroke and light weight get the 90 Yamaha at 261lbs. If you have the Yamaha already look into them or Mercury being you can keep your controls and save $400. Personally I have owned the lightweight and heavyweight engines and although lightweight apleals to me more....in fact it makes the boat ride rougher. The heavier engines smooth out the ride being more weight is aft. I personally think the 70hp Suzuki 4 stroke at roughly $5k is the best engine for a 17'.
Kelly	posted 04-16-2004 04:41 PM ET (US) I was using the Yamaha comparison more as a guage of the suitability of the 60 hp E-TEC. In other words, if the 60 hp E-TEC performs about the same as the 70 hp 2 stroke Yamaha, then it may be a good selection for a Montauk repower. It seems like, of the new emission compliant motor offerings, the current front runners are the 70hp 4 stroke Suzuki, the 90 hp E-TEC, and the 60 hp 4 stroke Mercury. I was just wondering if the 60 hp E-TEC might fit somewhere in that group. Lighter but not as powerful, fuel efficient, or quiet as the Suzuki. Less powerful, less expensive(about $1,000 according to Ed'S), and lighter than the 90 hp E-TEC. Maybe slightly better power, but less fuel efficient that the Mercury, I don't know. It is also supposed to have lower maintenance requirements. Kelly
John from IL	posted 04-16-2004 05:57 PM ET (US) How soon are you planning on repowering? The E-TEC 60 isn't available yet. The 75 or 90 E-TEC tip the scales around 315/320 lbs or so. I recently test drove the 90 on 3 different boats (a pontoon, a small fiberglass v-hull run-about and a 17' Statos bass boat) I found it to be quieter, smoother and to have better running qualities and performance than the Honda or Yamaha 4-strokes (which are both carbureted) which I've also run. -John
Kelly	posted 04-18-2004 11:44 AM ET (US) John, It seems like I am always thinking of repowering. If I could get my current motor working properly, I would keep it and see what happens over the next year or so. If not, I will probably act in time for summer. Kelly
Bigshot	posted 04-19-2004 01:54 PM ET (US) My main issue with the 6 E-tec is it is only 2cyl which I think will lack the torque on a heavy montauk.
rbruce	posted 04-25-2004 02:15 PM ET (US) Big Shot: You could then decrease propeller pitch 2 inches to compensate for loss of torque in the E-Tec.
Backfire	posted 04-26-2004 05:13 PM ET (US) I would not count on loss of torque until the facts are in. Backfire
unsinkable_2000	posted 04-27-2004 07:31 AM ET (US) I just drove a mid 80's Montauk with a 75 e-tec repower and that boat boogied right along, excellent hole-shot and quick to plane. I know you would not get this exact response from an e-tec 60 but with it's low weight and good relative performance I really think it would perform fairly well. Love to know how it turns out.
Bigshot	posted 04-27-2004 01:11 PM ET (US) You can also pitch a 30hp to plane a Montauk as well ;)