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175 Johnson on Montauk
|Author||Topic: 175 Johnson on Montauk|
posted 04-24-2004 11:14 PM ET (US)
I am sorry but I am the most undecided person on earth. Everyday I go through whether to sell my montauk, keep it, repower it, trade it, etc. Well truth is I love my little boat and I have just about paid it off. My wife likes it, my dad likes it, people I meet like it, and I think my dog likes it too. I had been thinking about selling it to get me a bigger Fountain or Donzi CC, mainly for speed. Today I went out in it and thought long and hard and I could remember looking at the brochures and thinking of all the Boston Whalers I prefered the Montauk. I thought of all the money I would have to spend, or rather borrow, to get one of the others and I still dont believe they are the quality of boat I have now. My boat is an '03 model and I have every upgrade you can add, from the stereo to the Ritchie SS compass, and it looks great. Its my first boat and all the ideas I got from this website which I thank everyone for. Well on to the 175... My great-grandfather preferred Johnsons (true) and I do believe they are the best looking outboards out there. Upon extensive research, well not really, I realized a Johnson 175 2-stroke weighs 3 pounds LESS than my 90 hp Mercury 4-stroke. I plan on adding $5k to my note on my boat and using the money to trade my 90 in on the 175. This should easily make me the most dangerous and overpowered Montauk around and that is perfectly fine with me. Someone told me all my boat was worth, retail mind you, was $17k. It made me mad and so no more with pontoons passing me either. To hell with conformity, and probably personal safety as well, and just go with the biggest motor inside the weight. How fast do you think it will go? I dont think it will be hard to plane with 6 people anymore and I would like to not feel like I must run my boat WOT or get out of everyone's way. Wish me luck :)
Still couldnt be anymore dangerous than that could it? I wonder how those would mount on my Montauk....
posted 04-26-2004 12:33 AM ET (US)
Wow. Good luck...sounds like you might have some issues..
By the way, let us know how the maiden voyage goes with the 175 if you live through it !!!
posted 04-28-2004 02:54 PM ET (US)
I had a 140 on a Montauk and that got a bit scary if someone not used the boat "hit the throttle"...
A 175 falls in the crazy range...
posted 04-30-2004 02:33 PM ET (US)
Well we are talking a NEW 170 so it is more in the weight range of a 18' outrage. I think it will be fine....overkill but fine. As per your other post, go with the 150 for $700 less, you won't notice the difference. With a hull designed to go 50mph tops, adding 25hp on top of the 150 will give you a couple mph.
posted 04-30-2004 02:33 PM ET (US)
Ps.... I owul dmaybe stick with Merc being you save the controls, gauges, etc.
posted 04-30-2004 10:57 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the opinions. They got my old 90 rigged on my dad's new 175 Sea Chaser today and it ran a solid 48mph, full of fuel and with both of us (400lbs.). It was a pretty thrilling ride. That boat only weighs 850lb compared to my montauk's 1400lb so I guess that's where the difference came in at. Surely I will be faster than him. If he's able to outrun me I will never hear the end of it, he's already talking about it now. Fear of that alone made me go ahead with the 175 and as stated in another thread I'm adding a new 6hp Johnson 4-stroke kicker also. I'll be a little heavy with the kicker but can always put it on and take it off whenever I choose. I like to troll around sometimes and was fearful my trolling days may be over with the 175 and he gave me a good deal on the 6hp. I thought about staying Mercury but then he would have had to buy controls and I like the looks of the Johnsons better anyway, plus the 175 Johnson was the most powerful I could find under 400lbs.
I know this is more for classic performance, I believe, but I seem to get better technical answers here. Thanks.
posted 05-07-2004 09:42 AM ET (US)
I'm probably going to get in trouble for this. When I sailed catamarans we'd say a guy like you "had a motor instead of a brain". I don't know what state you're from, but in many states what you are doing is illegal. Obviously you have never taken a safe boating coarse. You are irresponsible. You probably won't have insurance either. (You're uninsurable). I hope I never meet you on the water. Why do you have to go that fast in that small of a boat. I only pray when you crack this boat up that you don't take anyone else with you. I hope others on this site lambast you, too.
posted 05-07-2004 01:11 PM ET (US)
I'm willing to bet that Fishgutz is the guy on the highway with a 1972 Volvo going 50 in the fast lane. His whaler is probably a "squall". HA HA HA
posted 05-07-2004 02:07 PM ET (US)
You were correct fishgutz,
an inappropriate response to a thread that had gone away.
But be careful there Jerry,
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