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TRAFFICLAWYER posted 05-13-2004 04:42 PM ET (US)   Profile for TRAFFICLAWYER  
I had the opportunity to test drive a 2900 Angler powered by twin 250 Verados and a Seacraft 23 powered by a single 275 today.


The Angler achieved a speed of 50 mph [smartcraft] at 5700 rpm. Accleration was smooth, motors exceptionally quiet and steering was uniquly smooth. Overall I would rate this setup a 9.0 on a scale of 10. The negative factor being $$$$$$$.

The Seacraft 275 hp was a bit loud and the hydraulic steering seemed to emit an anoying noise when turning the wheel. Although the Seacraft had an open transom which may have accounted for the increased DB sound level. Merc reps indicated the 275 will run on less than premium fuel at a reduced hp.

Personally although the gauge package provides much info, the manner of presentation is not quite as asthetic as I feel it should be nor the screen presentation as well designed as it could be. I'd like to have seen touch screen technology even though the screen can be changed from the throttle control.

Unfortunately, Whaler did not participate.


Thats all folks.

kglinz posted 05-13-2004 05:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for kglinz  Send Email to kglinz     
Did they have any pricing info? Cost of motors installed, or price of upgrade from ..... ?
TRAFFICLAWYER posted 05-13-2004 09:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for TRAFFICLAWYER    
Looks like $20-23k rigged depending on gauge package.
jimh posted 05-13-2004 11:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
The motor is in the $18,500 MSRP range. The rigging kit is another $2,600 (MSRP) or so. The SmartCraft gauges retail from $283 for a SC1000 System Monitor up to $1,368 for a SC5000 System View, but at the Miami Boat Show many dealers were quoting about $1,000 for the top-of-the-line set up.

I have to agree with the comments about the the SC5000 display. The engine engineering is impressive, but they need to re-do the display device and its graphics. It really takes some serious talent to design good icons and to give a low resolution display with limited color and contrast the proper "look". I don't think the SC5000 looks as good as it could, and the choice of icons seems like it was not given the same effort that went into the mechanical engineering of the Verado engine.

Of course, this can all change with a software upgrade, such is the beauty of a product where the code is more important than the hardware, as is the case with these SmartCraft System View displays.

The SC1000 System Tachometer and Speedometer are a nice combination, but I think on the Verado you may almost be required to get the SC5000 System View.

Incidently, the Verado may be the only supercharged outboard motor, but Bombardier is now showing a 1.5-liter 4-cylinder, four-stroke engine with a supercharger for their Jet-Ski products. This rig produces 185-HP. I guess high-performance marine four-stroke is becoming synonymous with supercharging.

Peter posted 05-14-2004 09:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
While I realize this is not an independent's test, for performance comparison purposes, Evinrude's website has a performance report for an Angler 2900 powered by a pair of Evinrude Ficht 225s. Top speed reported by Evinrude was 55.6 MPH with a full tank of fuel and 550 lbs of persons and gear.
Sal DiMercurio posted 05-15-2004 07:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sal DiMercurio  Send Email to Sal DiMercurio     
Just read a good report in Bass & Walley Boats [ this months ] on the Verado engines.
They must be run on premium fuel or they will operate at a much lesser hp.
Says they "START" at $19,000
It says great things about the engines, except for the 2 items above.
Sal
jimh posted 05-16-2004 12:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Sal--Your information is in conflict with many other reports which cite only the 275-HP model requiring high-octane fuel. The rest of the Verado line runs on regular grade gasoline, according to all other reports.
Sal DiMercurio posted 05-16-2004 12:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for Sal DiMercurio  Send Email to Sal DiMercurio     
Jim, sorry, I was refering to the 275 hp.
I think they said it weighed 650 lbs.
It's a good artical.
Sal
jimh posted 05-16-2004 08:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I will have to look for that article about the Verado in the magazine. If you are interested in more information about the Verado you can get specifications and other details in an article I published here on the web site forum about three months ago, about three days after the engine was publicly announced at the Miami Boat Show in February. Web publishing has a somewhat shorter lead time than magazine publishing.

See:

Verado: La Verdad
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/006715.html

The weight being listed by Mercury for the engine is what they term a comparative weight. I believe they do not include the weight of the integral hydraulic steering components. Competitor's engines will have these components added to them upon installation on a transom, but do not include them in their specified weight. Thus Mercury does not list the weight with their hydraulic steering equipment included for the Verado.

It is also a common practice to omit the weight of fluids in the engine and the weight of the propeller. If an engine uses eight quarts of oil, that would add about 15 more pounds to the weight. Lower unit fluids might also add a couple of pounds, and a stainless steel propeller might add ten pounds or more.

ptortora posted 05-16-2004 08:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for ptortora  Send Email to ptortora     
Some interesting video clips on Verado at the following site:

http://www.tmedia.com/verado/veradopromo.htm

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