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|Author||Topic: E-TEC Reports|
posted 05-21-2004 01:34 PM ET (US)
There have been a lot of technical discussions about the new E-TEC engines. I am asking the owners to please let the rest of us know how they really perform.
posted 05-21-2004 03:26 PM ET (US)
You need look no further than here: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/002465.html .
posted 05-22-2004 09:47 AM ET (US)
Thanks Peter, I don't know how I missed that thread. Evinrude is supposed to be all E-TEC by model year 2005. Anyone heard whether they are going to make that schedule? The dealer here thought we might see a 4 cylinder this summer.
posted 05-22-2004 10:29 AM ET (US)
Here is the best up dated info read all the links.
posted 05-22-2004 02:48 PM ET (US)
Do the next year's models get released in the fall?
posted 05-22-2004 08:33 PM ET (US)
Usually they do. I have a 2003 Yamaha that was purchased in late August 2002.
posted 05-22-2004 08:48 PM ET (US)
OK. Notice what's missing? The four cylinder models. The fours could very nicely cover the 125-150-175 power band, which is exactly what I'm holding my breath for. A 78 Outrage V-20 would be grossly under powered with a 90 and a 200 is outside the power rating of the boat. I think that twin 70s would be too expensive and too heavy.
posted 05-22-2004 10:01 PM ET (US)
Don't hold too long. I think you will see the same line up as currently offered in the direct injection models: 100 and 115 HP V4s using the 60 degree 105 cubic inch V4 block; 135, 150 and 175 HP out of the 158 cubic inch 60 degree V6 block; and 200, 225 and 250 HP models out of the 200 cubic inch 90 degree V6 block.
posted 05-23-2004 09:48 AM ET (US)
The schedule they have laid out is the new E-TEC V-6 models,
200, 225, 250 will go into production in November 2004 as 2005 models. The rest of the E-TEC lineup will be introduced July/August 2005 as 2006 models, full lineup from 9.9-250hp.
posted 05-23-2004 10:57 AM ET (US)
I find an interesting correspondence between several outboard engine manufacturers and the order (by horsepower) in which new models are being introduced.
It looks like the highest priority is given to the 200-250 horsepower range. In comparison, engines in the 115-150 horsepower range seen to take a back seat. And engines in the 40-90 horsepower range seem somewhere in the middle of the sequences of introduction.
Could one draw any inference to profit potential from these time-to-market variations?
posted 05-23-2004 11:11 AM ET (US)
Actually, the 40, 50, 75, and 90hp were the first new E-TEC production started in Oct 2003. V-6 200, 225, 250 slated for Oct '04, one year later. The rest of the models, 6 months later, mid summer '05 as the introduction of the 2006 models, all E-TEC, all 3 Star rated (2008 emission standards).
posted 05-24-2004 11:55 AM ET (US)
Just picked up my e-Tec 90 on Friday.
Curious to hear other comments.
posted 05-24-2004 12:19 PM ET (US)
Its interesting to note that the oil injection distributor on my 90hp E-Tec has six ports, only three of which are currently in use. I think that the oil injection system was designed for a six cylinder application, then scaled down for the 90hp, 3 cylinder engine.
posted 05-24-2004 08:18 PM ET (US)
Nota Bene: (For turnstone)--I am certain there are many articles available on other websites regarding the E-TEC engines. The reason we have this forum and this message thread is to collect information about them here. Feel free to post your observations. I am certain we will all be interested to hear about your first hand experience with this new engine.
posted 05-25-2004 01:44 PM ET (US)
Picked up my e-Tec 90 on Friday at Ship Shops in Yarmouth, MA.
Havent had much time to test it yet, aside from the quick shakedown with the nice guy who rigged it (Alan). Pretty zippy and quiet. I am excited!
There is a pronounced vibration I am trying to understand that occurs at about 1,100 rpm. It goes away at lower speeds and higher speeds. It may just be that it runs differently than my old 1997 Johnson 90. Anyways, the 2 railings on my 17' Whaler Montauk are rattling louder than they used to with the Johnson so I'll need to jam toothpicks in them or something.
Does the fact that it is a 3 cyl vs 4 have anything to do with this perceived characteristic?
In the link mentioned earlier, the vibration was reduced by changing to a stainless prop. But with all the skinny water I'm in, I'd rather not....
posted 07-07-2004 05:14 PM ET (US)
Turnstone, maybe I'm digging up too old of a thread (well, not THAT old), but I have been largely away from the forum for about three months.
So, how do you like your E-Tec 90 now that you have had it for a little while? I will add that, with my E-Tec 50, I observe the exact same roughness at around the same RPMs. Faster or slower, and it smooths right out. As others here have made similar observations, I'd just say it's an operating characteristic of the design. I don't let it bother me, though at that relatively slow speed I do notice my forward thwart seat (1982 15 Sport) vibrating quite a bit as well as my console-mounted GPS.
I don't have any idea why these motors behave this way at that range, but I don't find it to be a big deal. I only really notice it while putt-putting around docks or in no-wake zones.
Hope you are enjoying your boat-motor combination!
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