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Roarque posted 05-23-2004 12:45 PM ET (US)   Profile for Roarque   Send Email to Roarque  
I've found a Revenge 22 WT built in 1988 with a good hull and galvanized trailer worth the asking price +/-.

Rips in the bench upholstery shouldn't be too surprising on a 15 year old boat I suppose.

The rig comes with two Merc 115 outboards from that era for which I need advice. I expect they are major gas guzzlers and that I will replace them within a season or two. But you never know... they look like they're inline 6 cylinder engines.

What is the forum's experience with these tall Mercs? Any info on their reliability?

Is that too much power for this boat?

JMARTIN posted 05-23-2004 05:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
The Revenge 22 has a maximum recomendation of 240hp. I do not have any experience with the 115 Merc.
Billymac posted 05-24-2004 10:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for Billymac  Send Email to Billymac     
I have a 1987 22 Revenge WT, which had twin 115hp Seadrives (Full transom, not notched). I just pulled the seadrives and will be installing an Armstrong Bracket with a single 225hp, which is well within the 240hp rating, but more than enough power. Even a 200 would be adequte with this boat.

First of all, it is a great boat and assuming you get it for a good price I would say go for it. Part of the purchase agreement should be taking the boat/engines to a marine machanic of your choice, A merc guy, and have the compression checked on both engines. Maybe he will split the cost with you. Not only will that give you a very good idea of the condition, but he will be able to tell you about any history of that vintage and any inherrant problems. But at 16 years old any of those issure have most likely been addressed and at this point you should be concerned with the current condition.

Yes I am sure they will burn some gas, twin carbed engines will do this. My twin seadrives certainly did. If you have the notched trasom it will be an easy repower at some point if you choose. Putting a single new or slightly used new technology (DI or 4 stroke) outboard would really upgrade the boat and probably cut your fuel usage in half. Let us know if you get it!

mustang7nh posted 05-24-2004 03:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for mustang7nh  Send Email to mustang7nh     
FYI- there was an article in a recent Motorboating magazine about repowering a 22 Revenge with a Yam 225 four stroke and different prop combinations with speed/mpg info on each setup.
LHG posted 05-24-2004 03:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
I think I am the only participant here with a pair of these Mercury 115's on a Whaler. See Reference section article on transom brackets for photos, also Rendezvous section and Sail Log section of CW.

I bought mine new in 1985, and they still perform fine. They are actually about 125HP each, and probably faster than any 115 currently made. I think they are great engines, and would be ideal for a 22' Whaler. What you will have to determine is whether they are in good condition or not. Compression checks are mandatory, as would be new water pump impellers.

They are not gas hogs at all, and give pretty good mileage actually. On a recent cruise with JimH (20 Revenge), who has a pair of 70 Yamahas, I used the same amount of gas he did, and generally at much faster cruising speed. Not bad for twice the cubes, and twice the cylinders. I also get similar mileage to a friend with a single 150 Yamaha on a 1992 19 Outrage II.

Downside is higher running noise than recent 2-stroke engines, since they do not have the one piece bucket cowlings, and start up smoke without the oil injection.
Idle is very smooth, and they slow troll quite well.

By today's standards, they are extremely light weight at 305# each. If in good shape, they should push a 22 Revenge about 46 MPH

Billymac posted 05-24-2004 03:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for Billymac  Send Email to Billymac     
Here is the link for the article in Motorboating:

www.motorboating.com/motorboat/features/article/0,12696,606315,00.html

First time adding a link, hope I did it right:)

Billymac

Roarque posted 05-24-2004 07:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Roarque  Send Email to Roarque     
LHG, are the 115s you refer to shown on the photos of Whale Lure by jimh shown on Cetacea page 78?

The engines on page 78 do not appear to be the same style of Mercury 115 engine as the two I saw on the Revenge 22 that I am evaluating. Perhaps its just my eyes playing tricks but the engines on page 78 look a lot newer than 1985 vintage.

Either way, your information was most helpful and answered my questions.

I have used Mercury engines for 45 years until I purchased a Yamaha 4 stroke for my Sport 15 while at a boat show in 2001. I have been quite happy with the Suzi 60 even though the weight does change the way the 15 sits on a mooring.


I hasten to add that I was always happy with the 5, 35, 45, and 65 hp Mercs that I have owned and used over the years. In 2001, I neede a new engine and Merc didn't appear to be ready to supply a 4 stroke.

ryanwhaler posted 05-24-2004 07:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for ryanwhaler  Send Email to ryanwhaler     
Roarque,
Larry is talking about the motors on his Outrage-18, not the one's on his Outrage-25.

See the link below for a picture of the 18outrage:

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/rendezvous/NC2000/dayOne.html

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