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Trailer for 1987 Revenge 22
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posted 05-29-2004 01:39 PM ET (US)
I've searched this site and all over the web yet have not come to a conclusion about the proper trailer for my 1987 Revenge 22 WT. I'm looking for a keel roller bunk trailer that can support the 2350# hull weight, 410# Yamaha outboard, and fuel/equipment weight of ~ 1500#; all totaled ~ 4500# net weight. Most of the new trailer manufacturers do not make keel roller trailers in the length nor carry capacity my rig requires. Any trailers that can handle the boat are the float on, all bunk type tailers, not exactly the ideal set up. So now to the wisdom of this forum:
Any thoughts on where I can begin looking? Used? New? Anything at all what be a great help. I'm on Long Island, NY and can travel. Thanx for the help and a GREAT site that has helped me time and time again.
posted 05-30-2004 09:50 AM ET (US)
You are not alone. There is a dearth of pre-made trailers on the market that can accommodate a larger boat and have proper keel rollers. Even our often-recommended CONTINENTAL TRAILER appears no longer to offer the keel roller trailer in larger models.
The best alternative is to buy a trailer with the proper size frame and cross members, and add your own roller rigging. Even this is a challenge. Sorry to not be able to make a more enlightened recommendation. I have been surveying this same field.
posted 05-30-2004 11:29 AM ET (US)
Try taking a look at LOAD RITE, Model 23T4700VTG2 www.loadrite.com/products/VBunk.htm . A member here that bought my 22 Revenge bought one of these for trailering his "catch". Once we got it adjusted it appeared to fit just fine. I think it comes with keel rollers, and if not, they can or will add them.
posted 05-31-2004 08:30 AM ET (US)
This will be heresay but I use rollers.I now know that bunks are recommended but didn't when I ordered my trailer.
However I don't think it matters if your keel rollers are properly set up to take the weight. The bunks or side rollers mostly steady the boat.
I have a '81 Revenge V 22 with the I/O set up,so its even heavier than yours. I dry sail the boat so have some experience loading etc. Mine is a duel axel, Disc brakes,set up by Shorelander.
I haul quite a lot and my Silverado hardly knowns the 2 Tons are behind.
Shorelander trailers nestle the boat low by using curved cross members thus a low centre of gravity. My 120 pound wife can crank the boat up the steepest ramp.If you are nervous about not having bunks, during prolonged storage, jack the boat and put a half sheet of plywood [2 x 8] over the rollers.
I'd order another Shorelander in a minute. No regrets.
posted 05-31-2004 11:06 AM ET (US)
Stu, I purchased Peter's '86 Revenge 22 WT and I have the LoadRite. I just checked my paperwork, and the exact model# is: 23T4700102VWTB1.
Though I still have more tweaking to do, I like the trailer. The folks at LoadRite and my dealer were very accomodating.
The trailer has 3 cross members, each with a set of keel rollers. It has a single bunk on each side, not the double bunk as shown on their web site. I'd like to push the bunks out wider, as the clamshells over the thru-hulls catch the bunks. However, if I make the bunks wider, they do not reach high enough to meet the hull.
Also, if I had to do it again, I'd get a model with a little more length in the frame (an additional foot or so), as the bow comes up too close to the tongue.
(Note: has jimh left another clue about his next whaler?)
posted 06-01-2004 08:44 AM ET (US)
Thanx everyone, the search continues!!!
posted 06-01-2004 10:06 AM ET (US)
I just bought a new trailer in Sept for my 1991 22 Outrage. I bought a Five Star tandem torsion axle #4200 with ss disc brakes on all four wheels. Five Star is a Load Rite company or so I'm told. It is a bunk trailer and is a dream to tow with.
However, if I were to do it again I would either get an aluminum trailer with the long tongue on it so my bow keel doesn't keep hitting the back of my tongue. I plan to raise my boat up to correct this. Contintal in Florida says they have one they can build which will "fit like a glove". However, being in NY made buying a trailer in Florida unlikely for me.
The second and easier solution, dare I say, would be to just get the easy rollers and dunk the trailer a bit so to roll/drive on but still have some water under the vessel so as not to have the rolling pin effect on your hull. Once loaded, I think the easy roller setup with lots of rollers is probably fine in the real world. This would be my choice if I did it over.
The keel roller like LHG's trailer in the Cetcetera is an awesome setup but nothing out of the crate is going to give you that and most stock parts do not have enough height adjustment to easily modify a bunk trailer. Also, after the fact trailer parts are expensive. I will eventually go this way with mine because I have the bunk setup but... two additional cross members, brackets, and 8 Stolz rollers and brackets are easily going to cost me an additional 500 bucks to an already brand new trailer cost. Hope this helps. Good luck.
posted 06-03-2004 01:02 PM ET (US)
I found a dealer on Long Island who will modify an existing Magic Tilt model w/ Stoltz rollers and carpeted bunks to support my Whaler. One other question; what price range should I be looking at? I have a quote for $2600 plus tax. Thanx to everyone for the input.
posted 06-03-2004 04:51 PM ET (US)
Having just bought another new Continental keel roller trailer, I can tell you that in the all welded, galvanized "C" channel (as opposed to tubular) frame configuration (like the trailer for my 25 pictured here), they are no longer available for a boat over 20-21'. It's possible that a 22 could fit on one of these, but it's too close to call without actually trying it, or getting precise trailer dimensions from Continental. Other manufacturers of steel frame trailers such as Magic Tilt and Performance might be worth investigating. Another possibility is championtrailer.com. Their "four bunk" steel channel trailers look good, with lots of cross members, and I'm sure can be adopted for keel rollers with deletion of the two center bunks. They do require customer pickup in LA however. Remember each 12" Stoltz keel roller assembly, with SS shaft, costs about $50.
For boats 22 and over, Continental (and other manufacturers) make aluminum "I" beam trailers that can have tubular aluminum cross members bolted on to carry the keel rollers.
posted 06-04-2004 10:16 AM ET (US)
If you are in Long Island email (its in my profile) me as I might have a trailer for you that has less than 20 miles towing and three launches on it (always rinsed and brakes flushed). Perfect, less than 9 months old and setup for your boat. I can set it up with keel rollers for pretty close to that figure you quoted from the dealer.
posted 06-04-2004 01:29 PM ET (US)
My new to me 1981 Revenge V22 has a 3-4 year old EZ loader with bunks and 2 sets of rollers aft. It seems to trailer very well. I can e-mail photos if you'd like.
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