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texas_whaler posted 07-13-2004 09:10 AM ET (US)   Profile for texas_whaler   Send Email to texas_whaler  
Just wondering if anyone knew about what the total weight would be on a 17' Montauk with a 1990 70 HP Johnson attached including a standard trailer...Looking into a Honda Element and needed to know if a 4 cylinder could pull my boat?? Thanks

Matt

Moe posted 07-13-2004 09:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for Moe  Send Email to Moe     
With 12 gallons of fuel, minimal gear like anchor, etc, it's going to be pushing 2000 lbs. That's near 500 lbs more than the 1500 lb towing capacity, which is established with only one skinny driver in the vehicle. That towing capacity is reduced by the weight of other people and any cargo in the vehicle. With the family in the vehicle, the Montauk on trailer may be double the remaining towing capacity. Also keep in mind that "towing capacity" is for pulling on level ground, and some of those ramps out there can be fairly steep.

While the 4 cylinder with a manual transmission would probably tow it okay, the weak point on these drivetrains is the tiny clutch which takes a beating on the ramp. On the other hand, a 4 cylinder with doesn't have as much acceleration.

I'd look for 3500 lb towing capacity. That would give you enough for people in the vehicle while towing, as well as capacity for climbing a steeper ramp with the boat hooked up.

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Moe

Moe posted 07-13-2004 09:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for Moe  Send Email to Moe     
That should read:

"a four cylinder with automatic doesn't have as much acceleration."

texas_whaler posted 07-13-2004 06:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for texas_whaler  Send Email to texas_whaler     
Thanks so much!! I see that max towing capacity now...Arrrgghhh..I really wanted one too...The whaler comes first!!
Pete Bosheff posted 07-23-2004 12:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for Pete Bosheff  Send Email to Pete Bosheff     
Look man, my cousins are all Iron Workers, major skills in all related stuff - mechanics, structural steel, welding, dozer trailers - they pull 18,000, 22,000 and higher. They are either Ford or Chevy freaks. That was until cousin Mark bought a Dodge w/ 6 cyl Cummins Turbo Diesel w /six speed manual. You want a tow vehicle that is totally awesome, 18 - 20 mpg, don't need 4wd and is super cool - - get one and yo' Montauk will seem like it isn't even there. Moreover, you will get 300,000 miles or more with expected maint a $200 fuel pump once in a while.
catadromous posted 07-23-2004 09:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for catadromous    
Matt,

I have towed my 16 Sakonnet behind a Dodge Neon and a Honda Accord. These were both marginal, but got the job done. That said, I agree you would be better off with a vehicle rated to tow at least 3,500#. You might look at the new Jeep Wrangler stretch. It's basically a CJ-7, and is rated to tow 3,500#.

Jack

Bigshot posted 07-23-2004 10:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Regular Wrangler and CJ-7 were the same length and had 2k towing capacity. The CJ-8 or scrambler was longer and closer to the wrangler stretch. Scrambler had a 2k towing capacity as well. I am not sure what the new Jeeps are rated at but with a short wheelbase, you BETTER get your tongue weight right or she will pass you sideways if the fishtailing gets out of hand. I have owned 3 Jeeps and a Montauk is about as large as I would ever want to go with one. I used to tow my 15 with mine and it was fine.
simonmeridew posted 07-24-2004 01:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for simonmeridew  Send Email to simonmeridew     
I put mine on the scales at a gravel pit. Montauk, anchor, battery, fuel, 70 HP Johnson, and trailer was exactly 2000 lbs.Unhitch from the towing vehicle for best accuracy, and put the tongue wheel on the scale as well, as tongue weight should be 160-200 lbs, which would affect accuracy
simonmeridew

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