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walerboy posted 07-22-2004 09:41 AM ET (US)   Profile for walerboy   Send Email to walerboy  
It is down to the end. If I leave within the hour I can have a new 60-HP Mercury EFI [2-stroke or 4-stroke?] installed on my 1985 15-Center Console. The shop says I can pick it up on Saturday, in time for my two-week vacation on the lake. The problem is I had been waiting to get a 60-HP E-TEC™, which is not yet in production. I am sure the Mercury would be great, but I have heard lots about the E-TEC™. Anybody have any thoughts? Here I sit.
15ftlover posted 07-22-2004 12:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for 15ftlover  Send Email to 15ftlover     
I have the 236-pound 60-HP EFI Smallfoot on my 1978 STRIPER [length?]. Are there any dramatic weight savings with the E-TEC? I have found 60-HP EFI Smallfoot to be an excellent motor for performance in fishing and skiing. Top speed over 41-MPH with 2 adults and a full gas tank. No smell, whisper quiet, a little vibration in/out of gear at idle. My splashwell drains are fully out of the water so I don't think weight with the Smallfoot is a significant issue. Have a good vacation
DaveNJ posted 07-22-2004 12:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for DaveNJ  Send Email to DaveNJ     
The new E-TEC engines look great, but like any other new design, there will be bugs in the first year of design. Prices are high, too. No engineer can account for all of the real life experiences of boaters.

I love the E-TEC concept. I want one but I am willing to wait about 5 years for the design to be firmly established and the price to drop a bit. Who knows how the market will respond? Will it be the "Betamax" of motors against the "VHS" 4-stroke? Who knows.
I also would never buy the first year of the redesigned VW
This is just my opinion. No offense intended to current E-TEC owners. I only wish you the best and I am thankful you are the "real life" testers that can put this motor to the test.

If you need to buy right now, I would say you cannot go wrong with the Mercury EFI. This is what I would buy if I were in your position.

Have a great and safe vacation!

LHG posted 07-22-2004 06:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
From what I can tell, currently the Mercury 60 EFI 4-stroke has got that market to itself, when you consider both the EFI technology and light weight. Nobody has anything that comes close, except Yamaha, which is the same Mercury built engine anyway, but WITHOUT the EFI. The Suzuki EFI 60's and 70's are 115# heavier! Whether the E-TEC 60 will be able to compete with this engine is yet unknown.

If your need is immediate, you should get the 4-stroke Mercury.

walerboy posted 07-22-2004 08:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for walerboy  Send Email to walerboy     
Thanks for the help. I droped the boat off today for the new 60 EFI. They said I can pick it up tomorrow! Can't wait. Also bought a new trailer. What the heck its only money right.
Mike Brantley posted 07-22-2004 09:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mike Brantley  Send Email to Mike Brantley     
Congrats on the new motor. New power on an old boat is like getting a brand new boat, as far as I'm concerned.

I was surprised to read that the E-Tec 60 still isn't available. Forum readers will recall that I was deciding between the 50 and 60 for my classic 15 Sport a few months ago, and I ended up going with the 50 for a mix of economic and availability reasons. Looks like I'd still be waiting on that 60, huh? Anyway, no significant bugs to reports after five months with the E-Tec 50. Well, unless you count my throttle getting stuck at wide open going down the river the other afternoon! (My mechanic loosened a screw and added some lubrication to fix it. By the way, with the thottle stuck open, there's apparently a safety mode that limits operations to idle speed when the motor is restarted. I yanked the kill lanyard to stop the boat.)

Anyway, the Merc sounds like a winner for your boat -- and it has the virtue of putting you on the water sooner rather than later. Enjoy it, and let us know how you like it!

Mike Brantley posted 07-22-2004 09:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mike Brantley  Send Email to Mike Brantley     
15ftlover, I meant to answer your question. At the 40 through 60 hp size, the E-Tec motors aren't any lighter than the competition and are a little heavier than some motors in that size. I think the weight is 240 or 245 pounds or so, but it has been enough months since I repowered that I am forgetting such things. My splash well drains touch the water at rest, but I have an 18-gallon gas tank and other stuff on the boat, too.

It's the 90 hp version that has a clear weight advantage over the competition, I believe. I have no idea what the bigger E-Tecs to come will weigh, but I'm anxious to find out as I daydream about my future, bigger Whaler.

DaveNJ posted 07-23-2004 07:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for DaveNJ  Send Email to DaveNJ     
Please report back on your experiences with the new Merc EFI. How you like it, etc.
Good luck!


walerboy posted 07-24-2004 10:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for walerboy  Send Email to walerboy     
Picked up the boat yesterday. Looks great. The shop had it done withen 24 hours of when i droped it off. I was impressed. Going to set up the new trailer today and if all goes well takeing the boat out tomorrow. Once i get it broke in I will report on how she runs.

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