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surveyingdawg posted 07-29-2004 09:32 PM ET (US)   Profile for surveyingdawg   Send Email to surveyingdawg  
I am contemplating a Nissan 30 hp for my 11.5 Sport and would like some opinions. I have always been an OMC fan, but the weight of the Nissan ( and price) intigues me. Anyone have anything good or bad?
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 07-30-2004 10:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for BOB KEMMLER JR    
I recently repowered a classic 13 with a short shaft 40 hp 2 stroke and can't be happier.Starts and idles right off the bat,hardly any smoke and is very quiet.Now thats is just the 2 stroke,so i can only imagine how much quieter the 4 stroke would be at idle.the dealer i got mine from has only had 2 warranty claims on powerheads in 8 years.I don't think you'll find too many nissan or tohatsu owners on here,but the ones i have heard from love them.just my .02
Bigshot posted 07-30-2004 01:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Great engines...decent price. Weight is a major factor on a small rig. Only downfall is gonna be resale. If a Merc/OMC/Yamaha/Suzuki is comparable in weight but only a few bucks it for resale.

FYI...Tohatsu makes small Mercs and is also the #1 manufacturer of small engines IN THE WORLD!

BOB KEMMLER JR posted 07-30-2004 01:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for BOB KEMMLER JR    
Big i actually found the Nissan/Tohatsu's were more expensive than the rest.
Bigshot posted 07-30-2004 02:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Not around here...not much cheaper than Merc though...$100+/-. Even though they have a stellar reputation they are still considered an "off" brand, until recently so was Suzuki(which it still is to some). I would not purchase one unless I robbed it just because of resale. There are no aftermarket parts etc so you are tied to dealer.
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 07-30-2004 05:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for BOB KEMMLER JR    
thats really odd.when i was shopping for a 40hp,the merc was about a $1000 cheaper.The extra 80 lbs over the Nissans 160lb turned me off though.I wouldn't want to go much heavier than 160lbs on a old 15" transom 13.
AQUANUT posted 07-30-2004 09:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for AQUANUT  Send Email to AQUANUT     
pssssssst he said "small mercs..." as in 5hp 6hp yamaha makes 8hp and the new 9.9hp fourstrokes 2005 model year.

this reminds me of was aboutthe late eighties in florida that nissan got into the boat business...and offered boats...motor and trailer packages on their automobile lots in southern florida.

got to Nissan car dealership and buy a boat good concept.

However...there were structual failures in the hulls resulting in deaths...the NTSB investigated and the U.S. Coast Guard. The result was an order that all nissan boat hulls be destroyed immediately!...Nissan tok the motors off the hulls and destroyed the hulls locally....thus the poor reputation and low resale began..

and Oh Yeah, did I tell you I was one of the unlucky customers...

the joys of the boating industry never ceases to amaze me...

SpeedBump posted 07-30-2004 10:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for SpeedBump  Send Email to SpeedBump     
Like Bob Kemmler I also have a Nissan/Tohatsu 2 stroke, it is 70 HP, I am often asked if it is a four stroke when at idle or very low RPM as it is very quiet and has no smoke. It is now 5 years old and has been very reliable with minimal but usual annual service to keep it in tip top shape. Assuming the four stroke is the same quality as the 2 I wouldn't hesitate to purchase one. You may also want to consider their low pressure direct fuel injected engines. Apparently they get the same type of fuel economy as the four stroke but are lighter.
jimh posted 07-31-2004 11:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Putting a 30-HP motor on an 11-foot boat sounds like suicide, so resale value will only be important to the fella's estate.
surveyingdawg posted 08-01-2004 02:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for surveyingdawg  Send Email to surveyingdawg     
Gee jimh, thanks for your thoughtful and well thought out input on nissan 4 strokes.
jimh posted 08-01-2004 03:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
You are very welcome. Many expressed concern about the resale value, but I just thought I would mention how that might not be really part of the purchase decision for you.
jimh posted 08-01-2004 03:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Powering at 150-percent of rated maximum on an 11-foot boat: not exactly the conservative approach.
ryanwhaler posted 08-01-2004 04:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for ryanwhaler  Send Email to ryanwhaler     
He he's going to be carrying a lot of people and stuff he'll need the extra power to get on a plane, even when powered with the 20 hp Max. ratting, with three good sized adults it will be a dog and won't plane. Like I always say, the eleven food hulls are very weight
sensitive.Lightly loaded your right. The thing would really move, and could be considered a dangerous rig in the hands of the wrong person.

Good luck with the repower. I put a 15 hp Mercury on my eleven a few years ago and I wish I went with more power now. If you go with the 30 hp Nissan, please let us know how you like it and what it cost to purchase and rig.

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