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50hp or 60hp E-Tec on 1977 15' Sport
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posted 08-12-2004 09:18 PM ET (US)
Does anyone have any thoughts on how one of these new 50's or 60's will perform on a 15 foot classic?
My 1989 85hp Suzi may have given up the ghost, or it has at least one last time given up my confidence factor. I'm looking at light weight, no smoke, low end torque, and generally maintenance free. All points lead to the new Evinrude E-tec. I have found a dealer on the Cape (Cod) that knows their stuff and has a reasonable price (I think) on both the 2005 50hp (5,100) and 2005 60hp (5,500). Both plus controls/prop (400.00) and installation (400.00) will fill my confidence factor.
With my 85, spinning a 17 prop, dole-fin, at 3/4 throttle I am running way too fast. I'm not a speedster, but I do appreciate how the boat instantly sits up regardless of the load. I like to occasionally run with a tube and 400lbs of passengers and gear. 50 percent of my boating is in no wake zones fishing.
Now the question. I can get into the E-Tec 50 this weekend and salvage the fall fishing season. Or, I can wait until the 60 is available for delivery in December. It is apparently not yet available because they are not yet delivered to the public. If the 60 were available today, I would jump, but the dealer was explaining how, when the 15 max HP was rated, it rated differently than today (many other threads on this). The bottom line was, he said, that the E-Tec 50hp of today will actually put out about 85 percent of Whaler's max rating in 1977. And that may be true. But does anyone have any thoughts on how one of these new 50's will perform on a 15 foot classic? Or is a 60 that much better and worth the wait?
posted 08-12-2004 10:16 PM ET (US)
Wait for 60... I've got a 15' Sport with a 70Hp Johnson 2-stroke (prop rated), and would be hard pressed to give up any Hp in the event of an engine swap. If you get the 50, you'll always wonder if the 60 would have been better. If you're used to the pickup of an 85Hp engine, you'll want the 60...
posted 08-12-2004 10:49 PM ET (US)
I went today and look at the 40 and 50 h.p. E-TEC'S nice motor. So i got a price on both and the 40 was $5,200 and the 50 was $5,600 these motor's were with electric and trim ..SO we got to talking and i asked him if he had one riged out and he had a 16 foot by 52 with a 50 E-TEC on it and asked how it ran and said he gps it at 37 mph, so i asked him if it had more speed than a 50 h.p. MERCURY and told me it would smoke a MERC so i told him i had a 50 MERC and i have the same hull as he had and told him that i gps my boat 43 mph and he laugh at me .So i told him if that E-TEC could out run my Mercury i would buy one .so tomorrow we r heading out and going see what there really about.If thats all they get at WOT i don't want one...
posted 08-13-2004 08:55 AM ET (US)
Mercman, I think you need to get a new GPS or switch it from KPH to MPH!
I've got a 15 SuperSport hull that originally had a 48 Johnson (50 HP) and now has a 70 Yamaha. The Johnson would go 36 to 37 MPH on a good day with a light load. The Yamaha will do 43 MPH. If you look at most folks reports on speed of the 15 hull with a 50 HP, any brand, those numbers will fall between 33 and 37 MPH. If you really have a Merc 50 that will push the 15 hull to 43 MPH, by all means keep it.
WOT speed with a 50 E-TEC will be in the typical range 33 to 37 MPH for a 50 HP motor.
posted 08-13-2004 09:19 AM ET (US)
I had a 1987 15' Classic with a 50 Johnson. Like Peter said, by GPS I ran right around 34 WOT depending on the load.
posted 08-13-2004 09:49 AM ET (US)
Have you given any thought to the merc 60hp 4stroke smallfoot? The motor is relatively light in the smallfoot configuration, and it is a 4 cylinder engine (mine came with 5 year warranty no charge) I have a 1978 15ft striper and have clocked 42.7 mph GPS alone with @ 8gallon gas using a SS 10x14" heavily cupped prop at 6000RPM. The motor is whisper quiet and can pull me up on single slalom ski (175#). They have been out for a few years now and I've not heard any complaints. Weight is around 236# but it still allows my splashwell drains to be totally out of the water
posted 08-13-2004 02:01 PM ET (US)
The boating season is short in MA. If you can get into the 50 this weekend, I think I'd go for it.
I've got a 1976 15' Sport with a one-year-old Johnson 40HP two stroke. It hits a little over 30MPH by GPS. Would I like to have a 50? Maybe, but then again, the 40 is great on fuel and goes plenty fast enough for me. It's also a little lighter than the 50.
Good luck with your decision.
posted 08-14-2004 10:06 PM ET (US)
Well Peter don't think i'm buying me a E-TEC ran today and they could have the E-TEC the same hull Weldcraft minds with 50 mercury and his a 50 E-tec he tried a 19 picth prop and a 21 with a cup and mess with the jackplate for a few hours and only got 38.3 mph on gps he used my gps and got the same number .I got better hole shot and top end and i have a 14 picth prop with a cup and got 43.6 mph..
posted 08-16-2004 09:25 PM ET (US)
go for 90hp and really have a rocketship!
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