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Cicada posted 09-09-2004 10:54 PM ET (US)   Profile for Cicada   Send Email to Cicada  
There have been a number of posts lately on trailers and best set ups etc. A few pictures of the trailer I had made recently are posted at:

http://oldcrappy.com/trailer.php

Critiques and comments are appreciated.

It was pretty frustrating trying to communicate to the bigger trailer manufacturers what I wanted. Didn't have the time or inclination to do it myself so went to Liberty Trailer here in Detroit. He built the trailer for my 15' Sport about 20 years ago and seemed to have a good handle on how to set the trailer up for a Whaler. Very few problems with that trailer so I had a good feel for the product he made.

He doesn't build aluminum or galvanized trailers, I boat in fresh water only, so that was a trade off made to get the setup I wanted.

Painted steel trailer, keel rollers, bunks for stability, front platform for loading and retreiving, drum brakes (would have prefered disc) and two sets of guides. Very easy trailer to launch and retreive from. Weighs about 800lbs - doesn't help the gas mileage. No comparison to the trailer that came with the boat. That thing didn't like to be ridden, had a tendency to bite and an unruly disposition.

New trailer isn't perfect and I'd like to have a few modifications done to get it closer to my idea of the ideal trailer for this boat. Additional rollers at the stern, a few more tie down eyes for the cover etc.

Thanks in advance for the input.

Paul

Chuck Tribolet posted 09-09-2004 11:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
Cicada: Are you left-handed?


Chuck

jimh posted 09-10-2004 07:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I notice that the boat fits between the fenders. What is the width of the trailer? Is it 102-inches?

I like the color match between the pickup truck and the trailer. Also that platform at the tongue looks nice. It will keep your feet dry!

It looks like the bunks and the roller brackets are welded in place. The builder must have custom-fitted the trailer to your hull. Did he do that from measurements? Or with the boat itself as a template?

Buckda posted 09-10-2004 10:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Double up the rollers.

Add lights to the top of the rear guides (this makes a HUGE difference in visibility during a rain storm - I followed Kingfish to the Port Huron rendezvous this spring and the ONLY lights I could see to determine if he was slowing down, etc... were from his high-mounted LEDs on the trailer guides. The low lights were completely enveloped in spray from the truck and the trailer).

Other than those additions - it looks really great! They did a nice job.

Dave

Buckda posted 09-10-2004 10:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
Question.

When you have a blowout on the highway, can you remove that spare tire with the boat on the trailer?

home Aside posted 09-10-2004 11:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
Paul,
The trailer looks good and sturdy....Outrage looks good also, haven't seen anything of you for this summer's rendezvous'. Drop me a line if you're going to be doing any fall color cruises.

Pat

Cicada posted 09-10-2004 11:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Cicada  Send Email to Cicada     
Chuck,

Interesting question that I had to think about for awhile. The only thing that I can think of is the positioning of the front platform. May have been better to locate on the starboard side of the trailer. As it is now, you need to be sure you're standing clear of the winch handle when on the platform.


Trailer is 96"and was built to the boat. Had to leave the boat there for a few days while the trailer was being built.

Additional lighting is very desirable. Along with the rear lights I would especially like some back up lights. For some reason it's quite often dark when we return and it would help with the narrow drive.

Spare tire is removable with the boat on the trailer. Limited to using a wrench to remove the tire from the bracket. Keep that on the boat anyway.

Thanks for the comments on the appearance. It's been a busy summer and the Outrage is a continuing project. Gotta hit that balance between working on it and using it. It's quite a hull and just getting to know it. Plan on using it into November.

Paul

Backlash posted 09-11-2004 08:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for Backlash  Send Email to Backlash     
Paul,

Nice looking trailer. The only comment I would make is I believe you need (legally) 3 red marker lights on rear of trailer...required on trailers over 80" wide.

Steve

LHG posted 09-11-2004 04:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
I think: Cross members should have double 12" rollers, not 8" or 10".

Front bunks are not necessary.

Almost all 18 Outrages only need a 2800# single axle trailer, even with twin engines.

My experience is that the vertical, galvanized guide-ons, with PVC pipe covers, work better. Shipshape sells them for $60. Add a connecting pipe across the free horizontal ends and they will be rock solid.

How much did it cost? That will determine whether you did the right thing. I just bought a similarly designed Continental brand dual axle trailer, for a 21' Whaler, all galvanized and with single black 12" rollers on 4 cross members, for $1275. SS disc brakes on one axle cost me an extra $450.

striper swiper posted 09-12-2004 09:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for striper swiper    
How many cans of rustoleum?
Cicada posted 09-12-2004 09:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for Cicada  Send Email to Cicada     
Thanks for the responses.

Backlash,
Thanks, I'll have to check the Michigan regulations on the lighting.

LHG,
Good points on the bunks, rollers and dual axle. The dual axle may provide a little margin of safety on the road as far as blow outs (never had the pleasure of that one). Doubling up the rollers may be a modification that I'll add.

The trailer cost 2300.00 Continental trailer was one of the manufacturers that I contacted and from what I remember the closest dealer was either in Grand Rapids or out of state. The cost for the trailer was either comparable or higher with the three or four other trailer manufacturers that I contacted. Also didn't have the confidence that their product was going to be what I'd be happy with.

Tired of buckin' the old trailer so I took the easiest route to increasing my enjoyment of the boat. To me, the cost was worth it.

Striper,
Geez! The paint job ain't that bad is it? I figure six to eight cans might be enough. Might even be nice to mix the colors up a bit.


Paul

AZdave posted 09-13-2004 02:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for AZdave  Send Email to AZdave     
Really nice looking trailer with all those crossmembers and the high priced rollers. It really is hard to tell people that you want a lot of rollers these days. I just got a Shorelander for my 13ft. It has mostly bunks, and does not fit the requirements that I read on this site. It sure is easy to load though. My wife is happy, and as you all should know, that means that everyone is happy. It seems like it centers really well. The high mounted lights might be a good idea, but I have limited experience. I don't usually go fishing on the 7 days that it rains here. Dave

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