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Best 90-HP Outboard For The Money
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posted 05-26-2006 07:35 PM ET (US)
My 1989 Yamaha 90-HP just went kapooie for good. What is the best type of engine for the money to replace it? I've been quoted $8,800 for a new Yamaha 90-HP four-stroke, $8,000 for a new Suzuki four-stroke, and $6,500 for a 70 four-stroke Johnson which has low hours. Of course I like the lower price johnson but am worried about power. [Give me] suggestions, [which will] be greatly appreciated.
posted 05-26-2006 07:51 PM ET (US)
Find a local dealer with a strong repair and service department, who has been selling a particular brand for a long time. Negotiate with him directly on the purchase of a new motor.
posted 05-26-2006 09:24 PM ET (US)
Hey whalergirl, what model Boston Whaler is this new motor going to be mounted on? Do you use your boat for skiing, fising, cruiing?
posted 05-26-2006 09:25 PM ET (US)
That last word is supposed to read cruising
posted 05-26-2006 10:11 PM ET (US)
IMO its a 2 stroke Johnson 90 for $5999, just need to find one
posted 05-26-2006 10:22 PM ET (US)
I think the ideal power for a Montauk is the Evinrude E-TEC 90, but it won't be the cheapest motor. I agree with Teak Oil that a 2- stroke carburated Johnson 90 is the best value, and will run circles around your current motor. A brand new Johnson 70 4-stroke can be had for $6,882.
Check out Custom Marine at http://www.fishingworld.com/vDealers/GA/CustomMarine/Custom1.tmpl They sell Evinrude, Johnson and Yamaha, and have the best prices anywhere I've seen. I bought from them and am completely satisfied. Ask for Will.
posted 05-26-2006 10:28 PM ET (US)
By the way, the Yamaha 4-stroke 90 weighs 108 pounds more than your current motor, which I think is getting very heavy for a Montauk. Yamaha still lists the 2-stroke 90 on their website, and if you like your current motor, you may just want to replace it in kind. You will save some money on rigging and controls if you buy another Yamaha, but they are 17 years old and may need replacement anyway.
posted 05-26-2006 11:02 PM ET (US)
I have sold a number of 90hp Merc Optimax engines on Montauks...it's a great package. Final price would depend alot upon the guage package (if any) you want plus the prop and steering selection.
Basic price for the engine is $7395. I think the Merc 3 cylinder Optimax is a solid engine that delivers good performance, outstanding fuel economy and very nice running quality. The 3 cylinder Optimax is currently my favorite Mercury engine...one that I would not be afraid to sell to my most particular customer.
posted 05-26-2006 11:17 PM ET (US)
Put another 90 hp, 2-stroke Yamaha on your boat. That way you can use the same controls and gauges. Those items are somewhat expensive to replace. In addition, the 90 hp 2-stroke Yamaha will provide you with the best horsepower/weight ratio. You may wish to stay away from a 4-stroke engine. 4-strokes are heavy and, depending on just how heavy the engine is, it may take your boat out of trim, forcing you to move the batteries forward for ballast.
posted 05-27-2006 02:40 AM ET (US)
Get the 70-HP four-stroke Johnson or Suzuki if you don't plan on going waterskiing much.
posted 05-27-2006 09:33 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the input. I will be using the boat for skiing, my husband uses it for fishing. Of course, he wants the 70-HP because it's cheaper. My concern is having enoug power to pull my child and her friends skiing.
posted 05-27-2006 10:08 AM ET (US)
Stay at 90hp , it is what you are used to and you are sking! The 70 hp engine will disappoint you compared to what you have had. Your question other than that could end up with a hundred posts here, based on the money issue stay Yamaha, the controls can be reused and that motor lasted a long time!--Jack
posted 05-27-2006 10:49 AM ET (US)
For information on many 90-HP outboard motors presented in a nice table, see:
posted 05-28-2006 12:38 PM ET (US)
That 70 has plenty enough snot to ski with...trust me i owned one for 4 years and weigh 215.
posted 05-28-2006 12:39 PM ET (US)
PS I had a 90 Yammie that I replaced with the 70. The 90 did 41mph, the 70 did 39+ and burned half the fuel. You will not be dissappointed.
|BOB KEMMLER JR||
posted 05-29-2006 01:19 PM ET (US)
90 Merc 2 stroke classic at $5400
posted 05-30-2006 11:43 AM ET (US)
If you can swing the moolah for the ETEC do it. After being on Buckda's Gambler over the weekend with his twin ETEC 90s I'd be going for one of those for sure. But Yam is good too. I can still hear those twins - very cool sound but NOT obnoxious, loud at all - we had no problem talking at WOT and there were two of them back there! He confirmed low fuel consumption as well. No smoke like my Yam and I don't have any interest in 4 stroke personally at this time.
Whaler girl - how do you define Kapoooie in this matter? What happened?
posted 05-30-2006 09:59 PM ET (US)
kapooie=powerhead done and pistons have become one
|BOB KEMMLER JR||
posted 05-31-2006 12:06 AM ET (US)
yup thats kapooie
posted 05-31-2006 11:05 AM ET (US)
Not to drive everyone nuts but now that we know what is or was kapoooie has a reason for such a catastrophic failure been determined?
posted 05-31-2006 11:32 AM ET (US)
i've just been told by a marina that they outfit montauks with 70hp suzuki or 70hp yamaha cause instead of 90s cause the 90s are too heavy.
posted 06-05-2006 01:36 PM ET (US)
70 Suzuki, $6300 mounted. I get around 37ish mph. Should have plenty of power to pull a kid out of the water. I'm just shy of 20 hrs and I've only burned 14 gals. 90 Suzuki was too heavy for my year Montauk.
posted 06-05-2006 05:37 PM ET (US)
They Leftover 2005 2-Stroke Merc 90 for $6k and a 115 for $6,550. I'm considering repower my 17" Outrage II with one of the 115's.
posted 06-05-2006 08:42 PM ET (US)
It seems to me that with high and higher fuel prices here to stay, it's hard to justify buying a carbed 2-smoke these days. With fuel prices above $3 a gallon the extra cost of the modern technology (whether DFI or 4 stroke)makes the payback worthwhile.
Not to mention the extra range of the better fuel economy.
posted 06-06-2006 01:58 PM ET (US)
I paid less than that for a new 115 Suzuki 4 stroke with a 6yr warranty....out the door. I can get 2 smokes for about $5k.
posted 06-07-2006 01:19 AM ET (US)
That's pretty funny..
posted 06-08-2006 10:09 AM ET (US)
'kapooie for good'?
Is it that beyond repair? How about finding a good, used powerhead or whatever it needs?
posted 06-08-2006 10:26 PM ET (US)
While there is/was no max engine weight for the 89's the current max weight listed by Commercial Products is listed at 330 lbs.
posted 06-09-2006 01:18 PM ET (US)
410lbs is max on 17's
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