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oliverweagle posted 07-30-2006 11:26 AM ET (US)
The Saltwater Sportsman Magazine (August 06) has an article entitled "Gas Pains - don't let ethanol ruin your fishing season." I was unable to find the article on line. [The article is now available on-line].
JoeyP posted 08-30-2006 10:22 PM ET (US)
Good info. Before I saw this post, I was speaking with the dealer mechanic today. He said they have had a few instances recently with the 90 carbed four strokes coming in with clogged jets. He was telling me that this was due to the mix of MTBE and E10. The fix: completely clean the carbs, drain the remainder of the fuel tank, and install a better fuel filter. First sign of trouble is a rough idle.
Incidently, since this fuel issue has been discussed quite frequently I have been paying more attention to the pump labels. I filled my Jeep up at Shell today and could not see any lables indicating E10 on the pump.
Can we still get gas without the E10 fuel if we so choose?

jimh posted 08-31-2006 09:07 AM ET (US)
There are many very informative discussions about ethanol which are available here on CONTINUOUSWAVE, so I am somewhat surprised that so many of our readers find that it is necessary to recommend other websites for information on this topic. As a general rule, CONTINUOUSWAVE does not try to collect lists of links to other sources of information. A good way to find other sources of information is to use GOOGLE.COM to search for it.
If you would like to locate resources on CONTINUOUSWAVE which discuss ethanol, please use our local search function. It will find 141 articles which discuss ethanol.
http://continuouswave.com/cgi-bin/sw.pl?Search=ethanol
Rules for labeling of fuel at the retail gasoline pump probably vary by state, and, again, we don't try to collect this sort of information, other than anecdotal reports of it. If you want to find out if your state requires the retailer to display information about the type of fuel being dispensed at the pump, you should contact the state agency that regulates the sale of fuel in your state.
Even if a display of the fuel contents is not required, it may still be provided by a retailer voluntarily. In direct reply to your inquiry, in my state (Michigan) the display of the fuel contents is no longer required and I have not seen any information at a pump in several years.
The fuel requirements vary by region, and, again, we do not try to collect or organize this type of information. Probably the best way to discover the particular fuel requirements for your region would be to contact the EPA or search their website. They have information available which describes the required fuels. In reply to your direct inquiry, in my state (Michigan) and in the region I live in (the southeast), a very particular blend of fuel is mandated. This was part of a deal made several years ago which removed the requirement that all vehicles be tested periodically (whenever license plate tags were purchased) for emission compliance. So we use a boutique blend of gasoline formulated for our region. It would not surprise me at all to find out that your situation is similar, that is, your local area has to use a special blend of gasoline to comply with federal pollution and emission regulations.
Mandatory use of these boutique regional blends of fuel has caused scarcities and problems in distribution which have resulted in generally higher prices for consumers. It seems difficult to accept the premise that there are so many of these micro-climates that each has to have a different blend of gasoline refined specifically for them. When you install a regulatory agency and give them a lot of regulatory power, complex regulations are usually the result, and so it has been with gasoline refining and distribution.
jimh posted 08-31-2006 09:22 AM ET (US)
With regard to problems encountered with fuel, in this area, like all others, we much prefer first-hand reports and experiences. You will find many reports regarding first-hand experiences with ethanol and fuel additives in this discussion:
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/004757.html
BQUICK posted 08-31-2006 10:25 AM ET (US)
I was getting gas the other day (here in Maryland) and saw no 10% ethanol sticker. Went inside and asked....they rudely said "of course it has ethanol....it's the law".

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Author	Topic: Ethanol
oliverweagle	posted 07-30-2006 11:26 AM ET (US) The Saltwater Sportsman Magazine (August 06) has an article entitled "Gas Pains - don't let ethanol ruin your fishing season." I was unable to find the article on line. [The article is now available on-line].
JoeyP	posted 08-30-2006 10:22 PM ET (US) Good info. Before I saw this post, I was speaking with the dealer mechanic today. He said they have had a few instances recently with the 90 carbed four strokes coming in with clogged jets. He was telling me that this was due to the mix of MTBE and E10. The fix: completely clean the carbs, drain the remainder of the fuel tank, and install a better fuel filter. First sign of trouble is a rough idle. Incidently, since this fuel issue has been discussed quite frequently I have been paying more attention to the pump labels. I filled my Jeep up at Shell today and could not see any lables indicating E10 on the pump. Can we still get gas without the E10 fuel if we so choose?
jimh	posted 08-31-2006 09:07 AM ET (US) There are many very informative discussions about ethanol which are available here on CONTINUOUSWAVE, so I am somewhat surprised that so many of our readers find that it is necessary to recommend other websites for information on this topic. As a general rule, CONTINUOUSWAVE does not try to collect lists of links to other sources of information. A good way to find other sources of information is to use GOOGLE.COM to search for it. If you would like to locate resources on CONTINUOUSWAVE which discuss ethanol, please use our local search function. It will find 141 articles which discuss ethanol. http://continuouswave.com/cgi-bin/sw.pl?Search=ethanol Rules for labeling of fuel at the retail gasoline pump probably vary by state, and, again, we don't try to collect this sort of information, other than anecdotal reports of it. If you want to find out if your state requires the retailer to display information about the type of fuel being dispensed at the pump, you should contact the state agency that regulates the sale of fuel in your state. Even if a display of the fuel contents is not required, it may still be provided by a retailer voluntarily. In direct reply to your inquiry, in my state (Michigan) the display of the fuel contents is no longer required and I have not seen any information at a pump in several years. The fuel requirements vary by region, and, again, we do not try to collect or organize this type of information. Probably the best way to discover the particular fuel requirements for your region would be to contact the EPA or search their website. They have information available which describes the required fuels. In reply to your direct inquiry, in my state (Michigan) and in the region I live in (the southeast), a very particular blend of fuel is mandated. This was part of a deal made several years ago which removed the requirement that all vehicles be tested periodically (whenever license plate tags were purchased) for emission compliance. So we use a boutique blend of gasoline formulated for our region. It would not surprise me at all to find out that your situation is similar, that is, your local area has to use a special blend of gasoline to comply with federal pollution and emission regulations. Mandatory use of these boutique regional blends of fuel has caused scarcities and problems in distribution which have resulted in generally higher prices for consumers. It seems difficult to accept the premise that there are so many of these micro-climates that each has to have a different blend of gasoline refined specifically for them. When you install a regulatory agency and give them a lot of regulatory power, complex regulations are usually the result, and so it has been with gasoline refining and distribution.
jimh	posted 08-31-2006 09:22 AM ET (US) With regard to problems encountered with fuel, in this area, like all others, we much prefer first-hand reports and experiences. You will find many reports regarding first-hand experiences with ethanol and fuel additives in this discussion: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/004757.html
BQUICK	posted 08-31-2006 10:25 AM ET (US) I was getting gas the other day (here in Maryland) and saw no 10% ethanol sticker. Went inside and asked....they rudely said "of course it has ethanol....it's the law".