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gcl posted 08-02-2006 02:50 PM ET (US)
Hi. I conducted a search of the site and did absorb lots of information on engine size and expected performance regarding a 16-foot classic. Of course, I like to hear more if possible. I am thinking about junking my problem 90-HP Ficht, (which is inoperatable and has been waiting weeks for a back-ordered EMM). I really like the idea of a Honda 50-HP on my NAUSET, but I am concerned that it would be under powered. Any one out there that is currently operated a 50 hp on a similar boat that would like to share their experiences? Any information imparted would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
The Judge posted 08-02-2006 02:55 PM ET (US)
That is pretty extreme going from a 90 to a 50. I have run 50's on 17's before and they will usually fetch about 30-32mph WOT and will cruise aout 23-24mph at 4500. hey do sip fuel and weight is pretty low. Personally I would go with a Merc 60 or Suzuki 70hp 4 stroke unless you are getting a great deal on a 50. The 50 will struggle with 3 adults on board where the 70 will still pull a skier.
roloaddict posted 08-02-2006 03:21 PM ET (US)
I have been considering the Yamaha 60 Highthrust for my '71 Katama. The most 4 stroke power for under 250 lbs.
With the small stern section of the classic hull, a heavy(@375lb) 4 stroke 70 may reduce your freeboard unacceptibly. That may or may not be a big deal for you unless you go "offshore". A 50 or 60 will be a disappointment if you tow a skier.
My 3 cents (adjusted for inflation)
John

gcl posted 08-02-2006 03:41 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the replys - I hope to hear more !
Some more info:
No sking, however some tubing.
Lots of trolling, an activity that the 90 hp does poorly.
Small fuel cell inside the console ( 9 gallons).
Passengers, including captain, vary from 1 to 3.
Boat is used primary for fishing (local)in Fishers Island Sound CT/NY.
Any one else running a 50 hp on this hull ? Thanks
PeteB88 posted 08-02-2006 11:51 PM ET (US)
Weren't the old Bearcats 50s on 16s?
macfam posted 08-03-2006 08:06 AM ET (US)
I think they were 55hp.
The Judge posted 08-03-2006 02:25 PM ET (US)
9 gals with a 90? What did you do run out the channel and turn around ;) Man my 90 would burn 6gph at cruise and 2 6 gals was not enough for me to run anywhere. The 70 Suzuki burns about 2.5gph and can run all weekend on 2 6 gals. No matter what engine you buy, make sure it is EFI and not carbed. Carbed 4 strokes are noisy and have the same downsides as a carbed 2 stroke less the smoke. The 60 Merc (made by Yamaha) will probably cost about the same as the Honda 50. As far as the weight of a 70 Suzuki at 359lbs, nobody here has complained except one who put one on a 15' Whaler with a Jackplate. My 70 would run 38-39mph as well, what a great engine.
gcl posted 08-03-2006 02:51 PM ET (US)
The Judge,
Thanks for your comments. Actually, the Ficht is very good on fuel and the 9 gallon tank does work for me. I am able to travel well beyond my local channels; of course that would depend on the length of the channel. Regarding the carb verses non: I have been out on skiffs with 50 hp carb Hondas motors and was very impressed with how quiet the engine were. The noise level of the Honda 50 would be fine by me. I am more concerned if the motor would have enough power for me.
The Judge posted 08-03-2006 03:08 PM ET (US)
Forgot it was a Ficht. Why not just fix the Ficht and then re-power next year? Are you getting a good deal on a Honda 50? That Ficht will bring some good money if running. My father had a 61 with a 61 40hp Johnson on it for 10 years. Yes I think the 50 is enough and have driven them. I also think a 60 is better, especially for resale and EFI.
gcl posted 08-03-2006 03:15 PM ET (US)
Thank you for your continued comments. Yes, it would be nice to be able fix the Ficht. The EMM has failed and I have been getting the royal run around by the manufacturer. There is another post on that problem: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/011572.html
PeteB88 posted 08-03-2006 04:33 PM ET (US)
My buddy bought his Ficht brand new and had Freaky Ficht problems almost right out of the box. He is mechanically proficient and tried every trick in the book to get his Ficht Fixed - which went on for a long time - finally, one time he planned a family vacation and the Ficht Quit so he dragged the boat around to a bunch of marinas trying to get his Ficht Fixed but it ruined his vacation.
So he kept at it got the runaround about the Ficht that needed to get Fixed to the point he wasn't sure if the Ficht would ever get Fixed. He was ready to say Ficht IT when an old school mechanic said - "let me see if I can Fix your Ficht!" so he got right on the job, dug right in to see if he could indeed Fix my buddy's Ficht. He tried every trick in the book to Fix that Ficht I swear. LO and behold, while trouble shooting to Fix that goll dang FICHT - he determined the polarity was reversed on the flywheel. And the FICHT was FIXED and has been good for along time.
I've told mechanics about the reported reversed polarity flywheel on the Ficht that got Fixed but everyone was skeptical.
SO - I say - FIX that FICHT - figure out who knows. I think Van's in Grand Rapids was the shop my buddy went to.
My buddy's Ficht would not run reliably at idle or low speeds which became a big problem when docking.
jimh posted 08-04-2006 08:14 AM ET (US)
Are you saying the magnetic flux fixed Ficht's foul running. And once the flux was fixed the Ficht was fixed? I'd take that Ficht to a mechanic and tell them, "First fix Ficht's flux!"
roloaddict posted 08-04-2006 09:31 AM ET (US)
Has the Cat-In-The-Hat opened a marine service center?
LuckyLady posted 08-04-2006 03:16 PM ET (US)
Had a yami 50hp on my Nauset. Was under powered!
Gear and fellow fisherman made a big difference. Was always a problem what to leave behind.
Then, if the weather went south you really were wishing you had a 90 back there.
One person, no gear, maybe.......
On a clear lake, no wind......

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Author	Topic: NAUSET 16 Classic with 50-HP
gcl	posted 08-02-2006 02:50 PM ET (US) Hi. I conducted a search of the site and did absorb lots of information on engine size and expected performance regarding a 16-foot classic. Of course, I like to hear more if possible. I am thinking about junking my problem 90-HP Ficht, (which is inoperatable and has been waiting weeks for a back-ordered EMM). I really like the idea of a Honda 50-HP on my NAUSET, but I am concerned that it would be under powered. Any one out there that is currently operated a 50 hp on a similar boat that would like to share their experiences? Any information imparted would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
The Judge	posted 08-02-2006 02:55 PM ET (US) That is pretty extreme going from a 90 to a 50. I have run 50's on 17's before and they will usually fetch about 30-32mph WOT and will cruise aout 23-24mph at 4500. hey do sip fuel and weight is pretty low. Personally I would go with a Merc 60 or Suzuki 70hp 4 stroke unless you are getting a great deal on a 50. The 50 will struggle with 3 adults on board where the 70 will still pull a skier.
roloaddict	posted 08-02-2006 03:21 PM ET (US) I have been considering the Yamaha 60 Highthrust for my '71 Katama. The most 4 stroke power for under 250 lbs. With the small stern section of the classic hull, a heavy(@375lb) 4 stroke 70 may reduce your freeboard unacceptibly. That may or may not be a big deal for you unless you go "offshore". A 50 or 60 will be a disappointment if you tow a skier. My 3 cents (adjusted for inflation) John
gcl	posted 08-02-2006 03:41 PM ET (US) Thanks for the replys - I hope to hear more ! Some more info: No sking, however some tubing. Lots of trolling, an activity that the 90 hp does poorly. Small fuel cell inside the console ( 9 gallons). Passengers, including captain, vary from 1 to 3. Boat is used primary for fishing (local)in Fishers Island Sound CT/NY. Any one else running a 50 hp on this hull ? Thanks
PeteB88	posted 08-02-2006 11:51 PM ET (US) Weren't the old Bearcats 50s on 16s?
macfam	posted 08-03-2006 08:06 AM ET (US) I think they were 55hp.
The Judge	posted 08-03-2006 02:25 PM ET (US) 9 gals with a 90? What did you do run out the channel and turn around ;) Man my 90 would burn 6gph at cruise and 2 6 gals was not enough for me to run anywhere. The 70 Suzuki burns about 2.5gph and can run all weekend on 2 6 gals. No matter what engine you buy, make sure it is EFI and not carbed. Carbed 4 strokes are noisy and have the same downsides as a carbed 2 stroke less the smoke. The 60 Merc (made by Yamaha) will probably cost about the same as the Honda 50. As far as the weight of a 70 Suzuki at 359lbs, nobody here has complained except one who put one on a 15' Whaler with a Jackplate. My 70 would run 38-39mph as well, what a great engine.
gcl	posted 08-03-2006 02:51 PM ET (US) The Judge, Thanks for your comments. Actually, the Ficht is very good on fuel and the 9 gallon tank does work for me. I am able to travel well beyond my local channels; of course that would depend on the length of the channel. Regarding the carb verses non: I have been out on skiffs with 50 hp carb Hondas motors and was very impressed with how quiet the engine were. The noise level of the Honda 50 would be fine by me. I am more concerned if the motor would have enough power for me.
The Judge	posted 08-03-2006 03:08 PM ET (US) Forgot it was a Ficht. Why not just fix the Ficht and then re-power next year? Are you getting a good deal on a Honda 50? That Ficht will bring some good money if running. My father had a 61 with a 61 40hp Johnson on it for 10 years. Yes I think the 50 is enough and have driven them. I also think a 60 is better, especially for resale and EFI.
gcl	posted 08-03-2006 03:15 PM ET (US) Thank you for your continued comments. Yes, it would be nice to be able fix the Ficht. The EMM has failed and I have been getting the royal run around by the manufacturer. There is another post on that problem: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/011572.html
PeteB88	posted 08-03-2006 04:33 PM ET (US) My buddy bought his Ficht brand new and had Freaky Ficht problems almost right out of the box. He is mechanically proficient and tried every trick in the book to get his Ficht Fixed - which went on for a long time - finally, one time he planned a family vacation and the Ficht Quit so he dragged the boat around to a bunch of marinas trying to get his Ficht Fixed but it ruined his vacation. So he kept at it got the runaround about the Ficht that needed to get Fixed to the point he wasn't sure if the Ficht would ever get Fixed. He was ready to say Ficht IT when an old school mechanic said - "let me see if I can Fix your Ficht!" so he got right on the job, dug right in to see if he could indeed Fix my buddy's Ficht. He tried every trick in the book to Fix that Ficht I swear. LO and behold, while trouble shooting to Fix that goll dang FICHT - he determined the polarity was reversed on the flywheel. And the FICHT was FIXED and has been good for along time. I've told mechanics about the reported reversed polarity flywheel on the Ficht that got Fixed but everyone was skeptical. SO - I say - FIX that FICHT - figure out who knows. I think Van's in Grand Rapids was the shop my buddy went to. My buddy's Ficht would not run reliably at idle or low speeds which became a big problem when docking.
jimh	posted 08-04-2006 08:14 AM ET (US) Are you saying the magnetic flux fixed Ficht's foul running. And once the flux was fixed the Ficht was fixed? I'd take that Ficht to a mechanic and tell them, "First fix Ficht's flux!"
roloaddict	posted 08-04-2006 09:31 AM ET (US) Has the Cat-In-The-Hat opened a marine service center?
LuckyLady	posted 08-04-2006 03:16 PM ET (US) Had a yami 50hp on my Nauset. Was under powered! Gear and fellow fisherman made a big difference. Was always a problem what to leave behind. Then, if the weather went south you really were wishing you had a 90 back there. One person, no gear, maybe....... On a clear lake, no wind......