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edwardschnog posted 11-14-2007 11:34 AM ET (US)   Profile for edwardschnog   Send Email to edwardschnog  
LINK to home video

Boat: Boston Whaler
Model: 15 Ft Alert
Engine: Yamaha
Model: 90AETOL
HP: 90
RMP @ WOT: 5100
Propeller: 19inch Yamaha std stainless steel
GPS clocked speed: 41.6MPH with moderate wind speeds blowing in the same direction

Mobjack posted 11-14-2007 04:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mobjack  Send Email to Mobjack     
Not a lot of hull in the water is there?

I will never forget there was a 15 for sale a couple years ago online somewhere, it was up in the midwest, the guy had it rigged with, I believe a 115. Under the tab marked cruise speed, the guy wrote "Very fast", and under top speed, wrote "even faster."

edwardschnog posted 11-14-2007 07:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for edwardschnog  Send Email to edwardschnog     
That's funny, since I can imagine that even faster refers to uncontroleable.....
I also remember this guy living in Curacao with a 15 classic and on the back he had a 115HP 2-stroke Johnson outboard. I heard that on a good day he could reach and maintain the top speed for about 3 seconds before closing the throttle bodies. Top speed of 58MPH !!
That's 16.4MPH faster than my 90HP Yamaha does....

CRAZYYYYYYYYYY...............

jimh posted 11-15-2007 09:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I enjoyed seeing your boat in your home movie. I wish there was a slow motion feature; it really zooms past so fast it is hard to see the hull's planing attitude. It looks like you don't have much hull left in the water.
minitauk85 posted 11-16-2007 07:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for minitauk85  Send Email to minitauk85     
Very cool video! She's flying! Trimmed up those 15's really scoot! I'm surprised with a 90 she doesn't go faster! What's your top speed under ideal conditions?-k
edwardschnog posted 11-17-2007 07:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for edwardschnog  Send Email to edwardschnog     
Under ideal conditions the top speed is 41.6MPH
I was also surprised about this top speed, since I read many forums about this combo and many owners have spoken about speeds of almost 50MPH...
However, it remians a very nice boat/engine combo to ride... Lots of fun in the sun
Peter posted 11-17-2007 12:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
That should go faster than 41.6 MPH. When was the last time the motor was decarbed?
Binkie posted 11-17-2007 04:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Binkie  Send Email to Binkie     
I think its the setup, what hole are the transom bolts on? should be at least one up, what prop are you using? How many rpms? Looks like motor is kicked out enough.

rich

edwardschnog posted 11-17-2007 07:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for edwardschnog  Send Email to edwardschnog     
The engine is mounted on the second hole from the top. The prop used, is the standard black Yamaha 19 pitch stainless steel one. The RPM @ WOT is 5200 rpms.
The engine is brand new, I am still breaking in the engine. Only has 6 hours on the clock. Maybe the extra oil used in the tank is causing lower rpms?? When breaking in these engines the factory advices to use a 1:50 oil mixture in the fuel tank. The engine also has it's built in oil injection system. I notices that the engine smokes alot with this extra amount of oil it's burning.... Maybe the engine will run @ higher rpms after the break in period....
littleblue posted 11-18-2007 10:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for littleblue  Send Email to littleblue     
I have no first hand experience, but from what I have read your boat should be seeing a lot more speed than that.
Peter posted 11-19-2007 03:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
This is an commercial Alert hull which has a heavier layup so it will not be as fast as a recreational 15. However, it should be able to achieve about 45 MPH. I would wait to evaluate performance until after the break-in period is over with a new set of spark plugs.
Bert Zwueste posted 11-25-2007 08:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bert Zwueste  Send Email to Bert Zwueste     
Nice going Edward but go easy on the engine

Bert

james parrish posted 11-29-2007 04:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for james parrish  Send Email to james parrish     
I HAVE A 1977 15' WHALER WITH A 60 E-TEC. THE MOTOR IS JACKED UP 2 NOTCHES, AND I AM RUNNING A 17" VIPER. I AM RUNNING ABOUT 42-43 MPH.
EITHER BUY AN E-TEC OR FIND OUT WHAT IS WRONG. SORRY GUYS THE 60 E-TEC IS A SMOKIN MOTOR! A WATER VALVE IN THE EXHAUST CAUSES THE MOTOR TO 'LIGHT UP' ABOUT 4500 RPM. I KNOW YOU ARE RUNNING A 2
STROKE AND MY E-TEC EATS 4-STROKES FOR LUNCH!
westcoastwhaler posted 11-30-2007 12:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for westcoastwhaler  Send Email to westcoastwhaler     
Jim,

Welcome to the Whaler Message Board! You will find a world of information on Whalers and engine set ups on this site. I am sure that your contributions will be welcome too but take it easy on the all caps when you are posting.

EMB

Flipper posted 12-01-2007 06:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Flipper  Send Email to Flipper     
You should be going faster than low 40's. Even your video gives that impression. With my 15 I got 55 mph on my gps (in light chop) when I had my 90 merc on a manual jack plate. I have it on a powered jack now (not much more weight) but the motor is getting up in the hours so it's now getting around 51 mph. Still in the 50's nonetheless!
jhoward987 posted 12-02-2007 04:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for jhoward987  Send Email to jhoward987     
Sounds like wrong size prop...only 5100 RPM???
13rounds posted 12-05-2007 12:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for 13rounds  Send Email to 13rounds     
Yea it does sound like he should be going faster. My 13 is going 34.5 on gps and I have to little pitch on my prop. Once I get the new prop and dialed in I'll be running low 40's with my 50hp.
lastmango posted 12-09-2007 11:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for lastmango  Send Email to lastmango     
Edward,I have the same 90HP Yamaha on a 15' with a jackplate. I have a yamaha performance series 18 pitch ss prop,turns 5400rpm @47-48 mph gps. This is a progresive pitch prop and runs out like a 20 pitch prop. hope this helps.
lastmango posted 12-10-2007 12:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for lastmango  Send Email to lastmango     
Edward,I have the same 90HP Yamaha on a 15' with a jackplate. I have a yamaha performance series 18 pitch ss prop,turns 5400rpm @47-48 mph gps. This is a progresive pitch prop and runs out like a 20 pitch prop. hope this helps.
edwardschnog posted 12-12-2007 10:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for edwardschnog  Send Email to edwardschnog     
Hi lastmango,
Do you also have the heavier 15 Alert Whaler or do you have the older lighter version? This will also play a roll in top speed! Can you give me the Part Number of the prop you are using at the moment. I wanna know what they are selling it for on the Island.

Thanks,
Edward

Bluejay15 posted 12-14-2007 05:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bluejay15  Send Email to Bluejay15     
I just stumbled on this site looking for a bow cushion for my modified 15 gls. This is a real nice site loaded with info. I run a 1987 112 spl bolted directly to the transom. With a 24 Raker I get 57 mph on GPS. With a manual jack I could probably see more mph. Here are some pics.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd128/dixtover/bostonwhaler003.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd128/dixtover/bostonwhaler001.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd128/dixtover/bostonwhaler006.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd128/dixtover/bostonwhaler005.jpg

JMARTIN posted 12-14-2007 06:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd128/dixtover/bostonwhaler001.jpg

Jeepers, 57 mph and all you got to hang on to is the wheel and you are standing? Does she chine walk? John

Bluejay15 posted 12-15-2007 08:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bluejay15  Send Email to Bluejay15     
I would be lying if I said it did not walk. It is not as bad as some say. But then it’s all relative. I have only owned one boat that went slower then 45. And that was an aluminum boat with a 9.9 hp. The whaler is set up with sea star hydraulic steering and I think good steering plays a vital role in handling a faster boat. The problem with fast whalers is there is no pad to balance on so constant steering feed back is required. I do sit down on a cooler. The cooler seat just was not in when I took the photos. The boat is currently propped with a 21 raker with a consistent speed in the low 50's and handles great. I like fast cruising speeds close to 40. But that is my feelings. Someone else might not think it is stable at those speeds.
mikejoyce77 posted 12-18-2007 12:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for mikejoyce77  Send Email to mikejoyce77     
edward, nice boat. How much does your 90hp yamaha weigh? I thought maybe a 90hp was to heavy for the transom.
Nauti Tauk posted 12-18-2007 08:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for Nauti Tauk  Send Email to Nauti Tauk     
Will someone help me please. I can't get BlueJays pics to open for some reason. I copy and paste to the address line and when I try to open it I get a small empty square box below the address line. What am I doing wrong. Thanks.
Jerry
JMARTIN posted 12-18-2007 01:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
Jerry, can you see the link I posted?

3 posts up?

John

Nauti Tauk posted 12-21-2007 01:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for Nauti Tauk  Send Email to Nauti Tauk     
John,
I'm good to go....was trying to open them wrong.Boy that gives a whole new meaning to minimalistic huh! Thanks,
J
lastmango posted 01-02-2008 06:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for lastmango  Send Email to lastmango     
Edward,the model 15' that I have is a GLS. It has a one piece molded front/rear seat w/side console that is about an extra 125-150lbs.There is also a new 15 gallon tank under seat which adds a little more weight over the 12 gallon one.I'll try to look up the prop part number and get back to you.
edwardschnog posted 01-26-2008 08:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for edwardschnog  Send Email to edwardschnog     
mikejoyce77,
The 90HP Yamaha 2 stroke weighs 119Kgs, which is the max allowed weight for this transom (according to the factory)

lastmango,
I will be waiting for the prop info.
Thanks to all of you!

Cheers,
Edward

Yiddil posted 01-27-2008 04:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
wow that looked like fun! Not much hull in the water at all! be Careful:)
florida1098 posted 01-28-2008 06:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for florida1098  Send Email to florida1098     
I thought (2 yrs ago) my 150 sport w/ tail wind and flat water hit 38mph gps. I actually would like to know, not guess from memory what a stock 150 sport w? a 4 stroke bigfoot can expect to see wot. One person on board and absolutely no accesories
Thanks
lastmango posted 02-04-2008 11:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for lastmango  Send Email to lastmango     
edward, yamaha prop 13 1/4x18 series K,mar-gyt3b-v4-18
15ftlover posted 02-07-2008 12:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for 15ftlover  Send Email to 15ftlover     
James,
SORRY TO BURST YOUR BUBBLE, but my merc 60hp 4stroke will hit 42 mph on my 1978 15ft striper version. You're not exactly eating this 4-strokes lunch.
Hen

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