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Dauntless_14_TX posted 06-02-2009 11:30 AM ET (US)
Well I'm finally trading up to a 2009 Mercury 60 HP Bigfoot, from a 1999 Mercury 60 HP two stroke standard gear case. Going with the bigfoot in what I've gathered from discussions on here, and that Boston Whaler is now using them standard on their smaller models (Super Sport 15, or Montauk 15). Dealer says he has never put a bigfoot on a boat other than a pontoon, but I'm assuming going with the bigfoot is the correct decision. Only concern is I sometimes run in shallow water (less than 2ft) and worried about the extra shaft length of the bigfoot gear case. Any advice on prop selection and is going with the bigfoot model the way to go? Thanks for any advice.
Tohsgib posted 06-02-2009 12:48 PM ET (US)
Run a Jackplate. What is the weight? Not sure if i would run a BF on a 14' boat but many do. PS...there is no such thing as a 2009 Mercury outboard.
bloller posted 06-02-2009 12:54 PM ET (US)
Just make sure the dealer mounts the motor so that the A/V plate above the prop is at least level to the bottom of the boat or up to 1 1/2" above it. I think most dealers tend to mount the motor as low as possible. This is not idea in most cases.
Dauntless_14_TX posted 06-02-2009 01:20 PM ET (US)
I know Mercury has done away with model year designations for their outboards, but it will be a 2009 titled motor to be more specific, which in hind sight would be obvious. Though in talking in detail with Boston Whaler, I may switch and have a standard gear case model instead of the bigfoot. They say they only use the bigfoot on the smaller whalers due to the ability of the lower gearing to pull a 200lb skier out of the water. Mine is a fishing boat with no intention to ever be used as a ski boat, so may save 20 pounds in weight and go standard.
dauntless14 posted 06-02-2009 05:59 PM ET (US)
You should be fine if you decide to go with the standard gearcase. Ive got the standard gearcase and its got more than enough low end grunt.
fishgutz posted 06-02-2009 06:46 PM ET (US)
The difference in the 2 gearcases will add maybe an inch and a half to your draft. Forget about it. If you're running that shallow I hope your NOT running fast.
fishgutz posted 06-02-2009 06:47 PM ET (US)
Can you wait for the new Honda 60 to come out later this year?
sosmerc posted 06-07-2009 09:47 PM ET (US)
IMO the bigfoot equipped engine is a better choice. You can mount the engine higher than the small gearcase and both the bigfoot gear ratio AND its larger cavitation plate will help you keep the boat on plane at much lower rpm. Add a Doelfin to the rear of that large cavitation plate and you will REALLY be able to plane at low rpm!
SC Joe posted 06-07-2009 10:24 PM ET (US)
>>>PS...there is no such thing as a 2009 Mercury outboard.<<<
That depends on the state. My engine, in South Carolina, is titled as a 2008 Mercury.
jimh posted 06-08-2009 09:05 AM ET (US)
Mercury have announced that their motors currently have production year designations. This is not to be confused with model year designations. Production year designations are apparently a handy way to comply with state and federal laws that require designation of a motor as being offered for sale as part of a particular model year or production epoch. Apparently the use of the production year concept does not remove or negate the many benefits which customers of Mercury were graciously provided with when the model year designation was eliminated.
fishgutz posted 06-08-2009 05:24 PM ET (US)
I agree with sosmerc. In addition you may find more choices in the larger diameter props(for the larger gearcase).
SC Joe posted 06-08-2009 07:01 PM ET (US)
>>>Mercury have announced that their motors currently have production year designations. This is not to be confused with model year designations. Production year designations are apparently a handy way to comply with state and federal laws that require designation of a motor as being offered for sale as part of a particular model year or production epoch. Apparently the use of the production year concept does not remove or negate the many benefits which customers of Mercury were graciously provided with when the model year designation was eliminated.<<<
My engine was manufactured in 3/08, and both my title and the preceeding MSO both stated that it was a 2008 Model year engine. That's the info I would need to buy parts, if I needed any. As an engine owner, what else would I need to know?
I think all engine manufacturers specifically state that they may change their product's specifications or design, without notice, at any time, without liability to provide those changes to other same "production year" owners.
I guess I don't understand what the offensive difference is?

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Author	Topic: Dauntless 14 Repower with new Mercury 60HP Bigfoot
Dauntless_14_TX	posted 06-02-2009 11:30 AM ET (US) Well I'm finally trading up to a 2009 Mercury 60 HP Bigfoot, from a 1999 Mercury 60 HP two stroke standard gear case. Going with the bigfoot in what I've gathered from discussions on here, and that Boston Whaler is now using them standard on their smaller models (Super Sport 15, or Montauk 15). Dealer says he has never put a bigfoot on a boat other than a pontoon, but I'm assuming going with the bigfoot is the correct decision. Only concern is I sometimes run in shallow water (less than 2ft) and worried about the extra shaft length of the bigfoot gear case. Any advice on prop selection and is going with the bigfoot model the way to go? Thanks for any advice.
Tohsgib	posted 06-02-2009 12:48 PM ET (US) Run a Jackplate. What is the weight? Not sure if i would run a BF on a 14' boat but many do. PS...there is no such thing as a 2009 Mercury outboard.
bloller	posted 06-02-2009 12:54 PM ET (US) Just make sure the dealer mounts the motor so that the A/V plate above the prop is at least level to the bottom of the boat or up to 1 1/2" above it. I think most dealers tend to mount the motor as low as possible. This is not idea in most cases.
Dauntless_14_TX	posted 06-02-2009 01:20 PM ET (US) I know Mercury has done away with model year designations for their outboards, but it will be a 2009 titled motor to be more specific, which in hind sight would be obvious. Though in talking in detail with Boston Whaler, I may switch and have a standard gear case model instead of the bigfoot. They say they only use the bigfoot on the smaller whalers due to the ability of the lower gearing to pull a 200lb skier out of the water. Mine is a fishing boat with no intention to ever be used as a ski boat, so may save 20 pounds in weight and go standard.
dauntless14	posted 06-02-2009 05:59 PM ET (US) You should be fine if you decide to go with the standard gearcase. Ive got the standard gearcase and its got more than enough low end grunt.
fishgutz	posted 06-02-2009 06:46 PM ET (US) The difference in the 2 gearcases will add maybe an inch and a half to your draft. Forget about it. If you're running that shallow I hope your NOT running fast.
fishgutz	posted 06-02-2009 06:47 PM ET (US) Can you wait for the new Honda 60 to come out later this year?
sosmerc	posted 06-07-2009 09:47 PM ET (US) IMO the bigfoot equipped engine is a better choice. You can mount the engine higher than the small gearcase and both the bigfoot gear ratio AND its larger cavitation plate will help you keep the boat on plane at much lower rpm. Add a Doelfin to the rear of that large cavitation plate and you will REALLY be able to plane at low rpm!
SC Joe	posted 06-07-2009 10:24 PM ET (US) >>>PS...there is no such thing as a 2009 Mercury outboard.<<< That depends on the state. My engine, in South Carolina, is titled as a 2008 Mercury.
jimh	posted 06-08-2009 09:05 AM ET (US) Mercury have announced that their motors currently have production year designations. This is not to be confused with model year designations. Production year designations are apparently a handy way to comply with state and federal laws that require designation of a motor as being offered for sale as part of a particular model year or production epoch. Apparently the use of the production year concept does not remove or negate the many benefits which customers of Mercury were graciously provided with when the model year designation was eliminated.
fishgutz	posted 06-08-2009 05:24 PM ET (US) I agree with sosmerc. In addition you may find more choices in the larger diameter props(for the larger gearcase).
SC Joe	posted 06-08-2009 07:01 PM ET (US) >>>Mercury have announced that their motors currently have production year designations. This is not to be confused with model year designations. Production year designations are apparently a handy way to comply with state and federal laws that require designation of a motor as being offered for sale as part of a particular model year or production epoch. Apparently the use of the production year concept does not remove or negate the many benefits which customers of Mercury were graciously provided with when the model year designation was eliminated.<<< My engine was manufactured in 3/08, and both my title and the preceeding MSO both stated that it was a 2008 Model year engine. That's the info I would need to buy parts, if I needed any. As an engine owner, what else would I need to know? I think all engine manufacturers specifically state that they may change their product's specifications or design, without notice, at any time, without liability to provide those changes to other same "production year" owners. I guess I don't understand what the offensive difference is?