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posted 03-03-2001 09:22 AM ET (US)
I am sure the interesting rebuilding of DIVE 1 will elicit many comments.
See http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage35.html , which first appeared March 3, 2001.
posted 03-03-2001 10:19 AM ET (US)
All I can say is "Just Awsome"! Regards-Jack Graner.
posted 03-03-2001 11:05 AM ET (US)
Nice dive boat. We have the same taste in
tank racks -- the East Coast Plastics
posted 03-03-2001 11:06 AM ET (US)
Being a fireman,I have to say,Thats one fine boat!!!:)
posted 03-03-2001 11:55 AM ET (US)
Is it just me or what? I didn't know there was a page 35 in Cetacea until I saw it as a URL from jimh. It doesn't show for me on the Cetacea page.
posted 03-03-2001 01:38 PM ET (US)
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posted 03-03-2001 05:27 PM ET (US)
It looks like its got a couple of commercial duty v-sixes hanging back there on a notched transom but its hard to tell. Does it have a notched transom, a bracket or whaler drive and is my power observation correct?
posted 03-03-2001 07:21 PM ET (US)
You have a good eye for engines that most people do not know exist. It is a pair of 1989 155HP Commercial Evinrudes mounted on a standard notched transom. BW beefed up the transom to bump the standard 240HP hull rating to 310HP. We lucked out when we purchased the engines because they are exactly the same year and model that was originally on the boat from the factory.
posted 03-03-2001 08:28 PM ET (US)
What a beautiful job on DIVE 1! And what a journey it must have been from the shape it was in when you began. That is truly impressive, and you should be proud!
I'll be down (over?) in your neighborhood next Saturday; I'm dropping Outre' off with Keith Joy for a week so he can fabricate and install an arch that I have been corresponding with him about. Thanks to recommendations from you and Steve Farnsworth...
Another 22' aficionado-
posted 03-03-2001 08:57 PM ET (US)
I would give you the 5 cent tour next saturday, but I will be north of Gaylord testing snowmobiles. Let me know when you are going to pick up your boat and we can get together. You will not be disappointed when you pick up your boat. Keith and his crew are the best. BTW, do not be surprised when you see all of the bass boats already fishing off of Lakeside Marina(ice chunks are scary at 75MPH).
posted 03-03-2001 10:22 PM ET (US)
Jim(Dive 1), I have a new in box CDI Power Pack that fits a least a 1985 155 OMC V6 Commercial Outboard and some other models. Will it fit you`re engine, and are you interested in buying it at all? Just thought you may need a spare or replacement at a great price? You can answer me on here or e-mail me directly at firstname.lastname@example.org And again awsome Dive boat! Regards-Jack Graner.
posted 03-04-2001 09:50 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the offer but the fire dept. procured a few 155s as parts-only motors left from Desert Storm. I figure we can keep a set of 155s running for the next 5-8 years on DIVE 1 with the parts we have available.
posted 03-04-2001 10:27 PM ET (US)
- What was the elapsed time of the rebuild?
- Interesting that it has red lights. Here
posted 03-05-2001 10:38 AM ET (US)
WOW! Now that is a lot o' boat. DIVE 1 is a perfect example of why the Whaler Classics are Classics. Pick any other manufacturer, and lets see someone create half the boat of DIVE 1. I'm impressed. Great job.
posted 03-05-2001 10:30 PM ET (US)
We put in about 7,000 hours in 24 months. The hull was upside down on the trailer for the first 1000 hours. We had to cut out a large section of the bow on the port side because of damage that was repaired incorrectly. A mold was made from another hull to fabricate a panel to graft into the damaged area. We also had to contend with a section 6' long by 1' wide on the bottom of the hull near the transon, same deal, cut out a shoddy repair and redo correctly. Sand, sand, sand, were we ever happy when Don applied the red paint. We deserved a break and did not work on the boat for two weeks(although we all stopped and checked on the boat everyday to inspect the paint). We flipped the boat rightside up and put it back on the trailer. All of the floorboard panels were delaminated. we ground and chiseled all of the old plywood off and reglassed all new wood to the floorboards. There were a lot of holes drilled in the inner liner of the hull and they all had to be fiberglassed and sanded. All hatch covers were repaired and missing ones were fabricated. Sand, sand, sand, take to Jon Hart for the interior spraying of gelcoat. Cut down center console, we figured 20 hours, turned out to be 300 hours. Weld, grind, weld, grind, did not want to use filler material. Cut down gunwales, reweld, refit to hull. Refab stern splash panel, incorporate seat back into design. Refit fuel system with new hoses, fabricate SS cover panels to replace ugly fiberglass originals. Install new rubrail. Design fabricate, and install rear seat frame, battery mounts, and electrical box. Design and fabricate SS dash panel, mount gauges, make up new custom wiring harness and electrical boxes. Rebuild blown powerhead on Starboard engine. Hang engines, wire, install hydraulic steering, and test systems. Move boat to Lakeside Marina and Fabricate T-Top and leaning post with guidance from Keith. Install canvas and upholstery items from Custom Canvas. Install lightbar, siren, and misc. small items. Test run, make adjustments, tie up at our permanent dock. This year is the 4th year in the water for the boat and although it was all sweat equity, we feel it was worth it. Not counting the DGPS and the depth sounder, we finished the boat under $7,500.
BTW - each state has their own rules for the lightbar. In Ohio, law enforcement has blue lights and the fire depts. use red&white.
posted 03-07-2001 08:05 PM ET (US)
Wow and I thought I had a allot of time into restoring my boat ;-) Fantastic job. It always does my heart good to see a classic whaler restored to such perfection.
posted 03-07-2001 09:41 PM ET (US)
posted 03-08-2001 01:09 PM ET (US)
I have a dumb question. How does an average Joe Blow like myself get hooked up with military surplus boats?? Or does the gov. give municipalities the first option and I am sure they get picked up fast.
posted 03-08-2001 04:51 PM ET (US)
I am a firefighter on Long Island and I was wondering how you found the boat. It seems like a great project that would benefit our department!
posted 03-11-2001 09:05 AM ET (US)
Fantastic job on DIVE 1! Keith and crew at Lakeside are the best...I know John will be pleased with their work.
posted 03-11-2001 09:23 PM ET (US)
Government surplus property may be purchased by civilians,but the items are offered to other government agencies first and then to certain non-profit organizations. If the items are not requisitioned in a prescribed time frame, they are usually put up for public auction at the reutilization facility.
I will try to post the info for govt. agencies and civilians this week.
posted 03-13-2001 01:26 AM ET (US)
The only thing missing are ACTION SHOTS of the Dive 1 Crew! Are there any news photos or video of you guys on a call?...I'm still watching for Whalers on the Edge.
Of course taking on that rennovation is edgy all by itself. Well done.
posted 03-14-2001 02:08 PM ET (US)
Phenomenal. What type of skills did your volunteers have to do all of that fabrication? I would guess that if you had labor charges, that $7500 would have been more like $30K... Well done. Well done.
posted 03-14-2001 08:05 PM ET (US)
The governments DRMS(Defense Reutilization and Marketing Service) web site is www.drms.com. Start with this page and the site is self explanatory for government agencies and civilians. The Federal Stock Class for small boats is FSC 1940.
I have seen nice boats at DRMS that sat for 6 months and were not procured by another government agency. They were sold at public auctions.
Due to the remoteness of our area from the TV news media, we usually are finished with a call by the time they show up. We have some action photos of the boat and the crew but I was saving them for a special occasion. You wouldn't believe how indestructable a BW is with the props 5' out of the water, the throttles pinned, and the engine rev limiters banging.
Our volunteers are a versatile bunch with a variety of skills. We have access to a modern welding facility that specializes in stainless steel. We also have direct access to CNC machining and fabricating equipment. If you attend the Portage Entry Marina Rendezvous this summer we will arrange for dockage on the mainland and a tour for anyone wishing to see our secret facilities.
posted 03-14-2001 09:08 PM ET (US)
I'll be blowing into town about 10:00 am this Saturday to meet Keith Joy, pick up my newly arched Outrage and in so doing boost the local Ohio economy a little - might you be around for a cup of coffee?
posted 03-14-2001 09:40 PM ET (US)
Jim,(Dive 1) I`ll will most likely be attending the Portage Entry Marine Rondevous this summer with my `16 Currituck. I just need to get the trailer retitled! I know I for one really do appreciate you`re offer and look forward to meeting with you, and all of the great members of this fraternity! Jim, please keep us posted as to the dates of the rondevous and eventually I would like to talk to you personally about the whole get together and run through directions and details. I am excited thinking about it!I will be comeing from Conneaut,OH. on the border with PA. about 3 hours from Port Clinton! Please keep in touch. Regards-Jack Graner.
posted 03-14-2001 09:49 PM ET (US)
Jim(Dive 1), I attended the 1st eight Portage Entry Rendezvous, from 1990 to 1997, the last two I went to being held in Huron OH instead of out at Kelley's Island. Did you make any of those and have we met? I don't remember any CPD/Rescue models at the event during those years.
posted 03-15-2001 06:07 PM ET (US)
I will be at the shop on saturday, so feel free to stop by. I will E-mail the directions, it's about 1 1/2 miles from Lakeside Marina.
I will let everyone know when I get some info on the rendezvous. If you need info on the local area, just let me know.
Last year was the first year that we attended the rendezvous. I looked at the BWs a few years ago when the rendezvous was at Kelleys Island, but it was a quick 15 minute stop. I am going to try to get a couple more commercial BWs to the rendezvous this year.
posted 03-20-2001 08:48 AM ET (US)
Well, best laid plans, etc. ...didn't get with Jim until nearly 1:30 on Saturday, and then I was in a bust to get home, but Jim hung around and was kind enough to show me around and give me the quick tour. I got to see DIVE 1 in person, and climb around inside; that is some war-horse!
My hat is off to you, and the guys that helped you, Jim; what a job!
Thanks for the hospitality, and sorry I had to make the visit such a short one-
posted 03-22-2001 06:09 PM ET (US)
That is pretty neat that you got to hook up and particularly cool that the "tour" of DIVE1 occured. In my mind, that is particularly indicative of the people on this site.
In that vein, Jim, I called Keith Joy out in your neck of the woods and he hooked me up with some folks up in Detroit who will do some stainless steel fabrication for me. It beats the heck out of shipping that crate from Florida.
Thanks for the lead.
posted 03-22-2001 09:24 PM ET (US)
One of the big reasons that I enjoy this site is the vast amount of information that is exchanged. If you need anything for a BW and one of our comrades on the site can not come up with an answer, it probably does not exist.
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