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jimh posted 03-18-2001 09:47 AM ET (US)
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bigz posted 03-18-2001 10:06 AM ET (US)
Paul she is absolutely magnificent, what else is there to say --- Tom
PS Shame on James for "misplacing"
dfmcintyre posted 03-18-2001 11:21 AM ET (US)
Paul-
You've got a fantastic boat with a great documented history!
I've always enjoyed the ribbed boats. I couldn't find one, and decided on the later version of the hull, sans the ribs.
Someone once told me that the vertical ribs on the hullsides were to cover stainless steel rods, that joined the upper section to the "sled". Any truth to that rumor?
On the later boats, they dropped the inside wood decorative trim on the hull sides, along with the wood anchor locker and optional deck riser. Any chance you could take some detailed closeups of those three areas, and how the hull trim and deck riser are mounted?
I'd like to make a next winter project out of duping them for my boat.
Thanks again for the wonderful shots!
Best - Don
Clark Roberts posted 03-18-2001 12:54 PM ET (US)
Paul, I'm weak in the knees at the sight of your 21 Outrage! Wow! See my comments in "General" under "Whaler Moment".. You have a real time machine.... previous owner knew it would have a good home with you! Happy Outraging.... Clark
james cosby posted 03-18-2001 02:06 PM ET (US)
Very beautiful Outrage. I wish mine was in such great shape. The front "anchor locker" is actually an ice chest according to the owners manual. It has a drain that runs to the bilge of the boat. Thanks for sharing the pics. Thanks JC
lhg posted 03-18-2001 02:37 PM ET (US)
Wow - That is the nicest 21 ribbed Outrage I've ever seen. Just like a new one sitting in the dealer's showroom in 1971. If you're ever going to sell it, Paul, put me FIRST on your list!
The twin 55HP Fisher-Pierce Bearcat 4 strokes that you removed also intrigue me. With those it must have been Ultra Ultra Classic.
Fisher loved those engines, but never did very well selling them, having a hard time competing with the more powerful, slicker looking, lighter and cheaper OMC & Merc 2 strokes, being pushed by the BW dealers in those years. Truly an idea before it's time. But look at the situation 30 years later!
What were they like and how did the boat run with them? I assume you sold them because it was impossible to find parts and repairs? I hear they were great, quiet and clean engines.
hardensheetmetal posted 03-18-2001 04:50 PM ET (US)
Paul-
you are a lucky man! There are some beautiful boats posted on this site, but when I saw the stern view of your boat, truly magnificent! I too am wondering how the boat ran with the Bearcats, and how did they fit two of them in such a small motor well?
Congratulations
Dan Harden
dgp posted 03-18-2001 05:49 PM ET (US)
Larry (lgh), did Dick Fisher invent the euro transom that many years ago??
Paul, that inheritance is much better than boring old cash. Your a luck man! Don
lhg posted 03-18-2001 06:45 PM ET (US)
Don, I had thought so, but I was informed by BigZ that many others had similar ideas before Fisher/Dougherty did this boat. You may find the discussion if you dig back through the forum.
lhg posted 03-18-2001 10:14 PM ET (US)
It's the 30th anniversary of this famous ribbed Outrage, and the beginning of the now famous "Outrage" name (partially because of this boat). What a missed oportunity to bring back a "Classic Revival" edition of this boat, complete with the ribs. For modern Whaler, with their high tech Sea Ray mold cutting machine, it would have been easy. Well, maybe they'll do it for the 40th! Instead, we got the 22 Dauntless.
dfmcintyre posted 03-18-2001 10:40 PM ET (US)
Larry -
You gotta wonder if someone at the factory has thought along this line about an 30yr model, along the lines of a special order, all pre-sold. If marketed right, would they recoup tooling costs?
There could be alot of quality imput from current 21 owners. I know I'd be more then willing to provide imput.
Don
Orca posted 03-19-2001 01:04 AM ET (US)
Jim and Paul, Thanks for the post. It is great reward for my mostly lonely quest over the years to preserve my hull # 268. She has spent most of her life on a covered lift in fresh water. Paul's boat is a testimoial to how fortunate I am that I'm original and intact. We had Bearcat's for years. We replaced the Bearcat on our Nauset in 1989. My fater in Law was a great fisherman and loved the Bearcat.He trolled for hours at a very slow idle which we never duplicted with the Evinrude 90 we replaced it with. Yes, they said the parts were "impossible". The same dealer has condemned my preservation efforts over the years as stupid. So,go figure. I rationanlize that Mr. Fisher would not be upset with the Honda's that replaced the Bearcat's.
dgp posted 03-19-2001 07:55 AM ET (US)
In '91 BW did a 30th Anniversary model with the Montauk. I inquired to them about a 40th Anniversary for '01. No plans.
Another missed opportunity but they are down playing and are making the older classic boats obsolete. Don
hauptjm posted 03-19-2001 10:24 AM ET (US)
I have a lump in my throat. This is the exact boat I grew up on in the late 70's and early 80's as a young buck just out of high school. My best friend's Dad bought it in 1971, and the oldest son still has it. This boat is truly a time machine. Wow!!!
james cosby posted 03-19-2001 03:03 PM ET (US)
Does anyone know the difference between the Outrage I,II's and III's? I saw this in the comments but don't know the difference. JC
dreid posted 03-19-2001 04:06 PM ET (US)
What a beautiful boat! Down here (s. LA) we seldom see one of the old "dump-trucks" in other than very ragged condition. Knowing they were the start of the larger hulls, I'd sort of figured Whaler's commitment to quality and finish in the larger boats must have improved over time, from an inauspicious start with the first 21's. Wrong! Your originally equipped no. 007 may be the finest piece of handiwork yet posted on this site. Never seen anything like it. Even that "Euro"-style transom looks cool. Hate to think what one would have to pay for such a rig with all that woodwork, new in today's dollars. If possiible, we'd love to see even more of your 21'. A picture of her underway would be nice. Thanks for sharing her with us!
dgp posted 03-19-2001 05:27 PM ET (US)
And what a bargain it was in 1970! In Y2K dollars it would sell for $25,330. Don
lhg posted 03-19-2001 07:29 PM ET (US)
Don: You're a bit conservative on your numbers. I remember 1971 very well, the intruduction year of the Outrage shown here.
That was the year I bought my first NEW Whaler, a 1971 Nauset. It was also the year the Architect I worked for bought one of these new 1971 Outrages, with twin 85HP Mercs and a trailer.
This boat, at the time, was beyond my budget, but he paid $8500 for the rig. That was a LOT of money back then, when you could buy a new Cadillac/Lincoln for $7000. The same new Cadillac now costs $45,000, so this boat would be an equivalent to over $50,000!
Isn't that also what a new 21 Outrage would cost with twins?
dgp posted 03-19-2001 09:23 PM ET (US)
Larry, I used the inflation calculator on www.westegg.com/inflation
I seriously doubt if Paul would sell his boat for $25 grand. Don
lhg posted 03-19-2001 10:04 PM ET (US)
If he would, I'd be heading for Massachusetts tomorrow morning. I think it's such a classy hull design (and BW's very first boat to handle twins) that it's crying for the twin engine look, regardless of function, so the first thing I'd do is put a pair of 4 stroke 60's on her! As soon as we stop dreaming, our minds are dead.
lhg posted 03-20-2001 12:06 AM ET (US)
I just dug out some pictures I have of a ribbed 21, taken in Charlevoix MI, on Lake Charlevoix, about 5 years ago. The boat is like new, all original, twin Johnson 70's, blue bottom paint and blue, aftermarket canvas, beautiful. Looks like it has saddle tanks. Does this boat belong to anybody visiting here? I was going to send the photos to JimH.
Orca posted 03-20-2001 12:54 AM ET (US)
Larry, I believe I know the boat. It is rigged the same way mine was before the Honda's. If it is the boat I know,it has been kept at Irish and owned by the same person since new. I don't recall the bottom paint. I'll make a call to him tomorrow and check it out.
lhg posted 03-20-2001 03:32 AM ET (US)
Yes, I photographed it docked in a large marina in front of a Condo complex, in the vicinity of the Irish boat shop remote marina.
jimh posted 03-22-2001 09:21 AM ET (US)
For folks interested in the Outrage 21 and repowering it, there is a good discussion of this at http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000208.html
--jimh
Dickqu posted 03-26-2001 11:15 PM ET (US)
I was in Cape Coral, Florida at a Condo on the Rubicon Canal and an outrage like the one in this picture cruised past. The driver was suprised that I knew what it was. It appeared to be a little rough and the driver said he was refurbishing it. It ha an old Merc inline 6 cylinder motor mounted.
Dave Murray posted 03-31-2001 07:54 AM ET (US)
Paul- What a beautiful boat and great story- wanted to tell you that we saw two early 70's 21 outrage's used as tenders on the mega yacht "Blackhawk" in Georgetown Exuma, Bahamas during March 2001. We were on a sailboat moored near this yacht and saw the tenders many times- they and the mega yacht are owned by the "Blackhawk" hockey team. Both boats looked virtually brand new- totally restored- and had 175 Yamaha SW series OB's. Your right, everyone loved the old "sourpuss" tenders and wanted to know what they were.....Dave Murray
lhg posted 03-31-2001 04:04 PM ET (US)
Dave - I'm sure the players of the Chicago Blackhawks would love to claim the Yacht, but it's owned by the Wertz family of Chicago, who DO own the Blackhawks! I used to see it in and around Ft Lauderdale in the winter months, but have never seen it in Chicago.
Imp posted 03-31-2001 08:46 PM ET (US)
My 78 21 Outrage/decked model has a compartment under the v-berth with a drain plug underneath the water line, previous owner told me it was used as an ice box? Anybody haveany ideas?
lhg posted 03-31-2001 09:08 PM ET (US)
Imp: With a V-berth, it sounds like you have 1978 21 Revenge, not Outrage.
Imp posted 04-01-2001 08:05 PM ET (US)
Im pretty sure of what kind of boat I own, its an Outrageous hull with a foredeck and big windscreen and small cuddy-cabin. Ive seen one other out here in California. I can e-mail you a picture.
Imp posted 04-02-2001 08:52 PM ET (US)
Ihg, you are correct, I have a Revenge 21, I always thought of it as an Outrageous 21 with a forward deck! My apologies, Tom Hope to get Jim to post my pics soon!
lhg posted 04-02-2001 09:32 PM ET (US)
Tom, glad I could help you out. You might want to get in touch with Clark Roberts. He is the only other person here, that I am aware of, with the same boat.
There is also a picture of a similar vintage 19' Revenge somewhere in the Cetacea section.
dfmcintyre posted 04-07-2001 06:14 AM ET (US)
Larry -
Is there still a yacht in your area called the "Emerald K". Had/has a Donzi as one of her tenders, called "Another Emerald".
Knowlton family, that also owned a sports team?
Course we can't forget the Hanna tug family either.
Don
DS_SUNBIRD posted 07-19-2001 09:56 PM ET (US)
The boat looks GREAT! One question though, Your MS registration seems to have way too many digits! You didn't goof and put the MSZ hull ID number on the bow instead of the registration number did you? The registration is usually MS then 4 digits, then 2 letters, for example: MS 1234 AB or MS-1234-AB. The Massachusetts (or any other state) State-issued Hull I.D. number will be 12 characters long, ex: MSZ12345mmyy where mm is month and yy year of issue. All boats built after 31 October 1972 were marked with a builder-applied HIN, those before that date, or those that are home-built will have a state-issued HIN. Massachusetts started issuing HINs to boats built before 1972 when they began requiring titles in 1991.
Just trying to help, But I'm sure that you would rather have 8 characters on each side of the bow of this BEAUTIFUL Whaler, rather than the 12 character shown in the pics! This boat is just to nice looking to spoil her looks with excessive numbers on the bow.
Rod J.
ps: If you did goof and put the MSZ # on instead of the MS registration #, you are not the first (or the last) to make that mistake, I once saw a 13' Whaler that displayed the MSZ instead of the MS #. It took up half the length of the boat!
jimh posted 07-19-2001 11:34 PM ET (US)
Ironically, after these photos appeared in CETACEA we've not heard from Paul.
He has not responded to any of the comments in the thread, so I don't know if he's seen them or the photos in the CETECEA section.
--jimh
paul plante posted 11-04-2001 05:46 PM ET (US)
hi everyone So sorry I haven't responded.Will
try to email you great people shortly.
Tony posted 05-13-2002 09:02 PM ET (US)
Paul
This is the first time I've had the chance to view your 70 Outrage. I have one just like her. I wasn't lucky enough to get the original canvas, but I did buy her from the original owner. I notice that you have dual gas tanks. What size are they? The number on my BW is 00305. The only difference between our boats is mine has a teak bench seat infront of the console. What's the pitch on your prop?
ngraves posted 05-15-2002 04:47 PM ET (US)
Kaytara! She is so beautiful. You are a lucky man.
My 21 "Moby Dick" is a 1971. I've had her since 1975 when my father purchased her in an estate sale. Her hull number is 610. She belonged to a commercial fisherman on the eastern shore of Virginia, so we started with a well used boat.
The outrages are true battle wagons. From the local lake to the Gulf Stream, from sea rescue to sunbathing, they can go anywhere and do anything. Mine has.
Take good care of Kaytara and she will always bring you home.
dspinosa posted 10-26-2002 11:39 AM ET (US)
I just happened to find this site and saw the 70 outrage. I also have the same boat and the hull #is 00430. I love the boat. the only problem is fuel capacity. Paul your boat looks great
tbirdsey posted 10-27-2002 10:50 PM ET (US)
dspinosa, Got any photos of your boat you can share. I have a 72 and I love seeing other examples of this amazing whaler.
DrinkNBud posted 02-13-2003 07:06 PM ET (US)
Beautiful boat Paul! I have a 21'Outrage from the same year! We have owned it since new. It cost $7400 new with boat, motor,and trailer. It originally came with the bearcat but the lower end fell off in Narragansett Bay! We then moved to a inline 6 Mercury 150 which was on her for 13 years, then when the #3 cylinder finally went in 1988, we went with the current v-6 150. The boats held up pretty well because we washed and garaged it after every one of its weekend trailered uses over the years. I like the tank setup you have, we still run portables. I need to find someone to remake the foward deck and some of the fittings for the stainless but other than that it will probably be around for thirty more years!
DrinkNBud posted 02-20-2003 06:15 PM ET (US)
Well, I found the hull #, its 00132. Does anyone have the actual amount of these that were produced that year?
paul plante posted 02-26-2003 07:28 PM ET (US)
Hi all. I've been away for a while, starting a family. I've decided to sell the boat and wanted to offer to a group that would truly appreciate it first.
If you're interested, send me an email at paulplante2003@yahoo.com.
Happy boating.
Paul
jmhahnl posted 09-25-2003 01:07 PM ET (US)
Whalers are best when they are truley classic.
jimh posted 09-26-2003 12:59 AM ET (US)
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jimh	posted 03-18-2001 09:47 AM ET (US) Please post any comments or questions about http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage36.html in this message thread.
bigz	posted 03-18-2001 10:06 AM ET (US) Paul she is absolutely magnificent, what else is there to say --- Tom PS Shame on James for "misplacing"
dfmcintyre	posted 03-18-2001 11:21 AM ET (US) Paul- You've got a fantastic boat with a great documented history! I've always enjoyed the ribbed boats. I couldn't find one, and decided on the later version of the hull, sans the ribs. Someone once told me that the vertical ribs on the hullsides were to cover stainless steel rods, that joined the upper section to the "sled". Any truth to that rumor? On the later boats, they dropped the inside wood decorative trim on the hull sides, along with the wood anchor locker and optional deck riser. Any chance you could take some detailed closeups of those three areas, and how the hull trim and deck riser are mounted? I'd like to make a next winter project out of duping them for my boat. Thanks again for the wonderful shots! Best - Don
Clark Roberts	posted 03-18-2001 12:54 PM ET (US) Paul, I'm weak in the knees at the sight of your 21 Outrage! Wow! See my comments in "General" under "Whaler Moment".. You have a real time machine.... previous owner knew it would have a good home with you! Happy Outraging.... Clark
james cosby	posted 03-18-2001 02:06 PM ET (US) Very beautiful Outrage. I wish mine was in such great shape. The front "anchor locker" is actually an ice chest according to the owners manual. It has a drain that runs to the bilge of the boat. Thanks for sharing the pics. Thanks JC
lhg	posted 03-18-2001 02:37 PM ET (US) Wow - That is the nicest 21 ribbed Outrage I've ever seen. Just like a new one sitting in the dealer's showroom in 1971. If you're ever going to sell it, Paul, put me FIRST on your list! The twin 55HP Fisher-Pierce Bearcat 4 strokes that you removed also intrigue me. With those it must have been Ultra Ultra Classic. Fisher loved those engines, but never did very well selling them, having a hard time competing with the more powerful, slicker looking, lighter and cheaper OMC & Merc 2 strokes, being pushed by the BW dealers in those years. Truly an idea before it's time. But look at the situation 30 years later! What were they like and how did the boat run with them? I assume you sold them because it was impossible to find parts and repairs? I hear they were great, quiet and clean engines.
hardensheetmetal	posted 03-18-2001 04:50 PM ET (US) Paul- you are a lucky man! There are some beautiful boats posted on this site, but when I saw the stern view of your boat, truly magnificent! I too am wondering how the boat ran with the Bearcats, and how did they fit two of them in such a small motor well? Congratulations Dan Harden
dgp	posted 03-18-2001 05:49 PM ET (US) Larry (lgh), did Dick Fisher invent the euro transom that many years ago?? Paul, that inheritance is much better than boring old cash. Your a luck man! Don
lhg	posted 03-18-2001 06:45 PM ET (US) Don, I had thought so, but I was informed by BigZ that many others had similar ideas before Fisher/Dougherty did this boat. You may find the discussion if you dig back through the forum.
lhg	posted 03-18-2001 10:14 PM ET (US) It's the 30th anniversary of this famous ribbed Outrage, and the beginning of the now famous "Outrage" name (partially because of this boat). What a missed oportunity to bring back a "Classic Revival" edition of this boat, complete with the ribs. For modern Whaler, with their high tech Sea Ray mold cutting machine, it would have been easy. Well, maybe they'll do it for the 40th! Instead, we got the 22 Dauntless.
dfmcintyre	posted 03-18-2001 10:40 PM ET (US) Larry - You gotta wonder if someone at the factory has thought along this line about an 30yr model, along the lines of a special order, all pre-sold. If marketed right, would they recoup tooling costs? There could be alot of quality imput from current 21 owners. I know I'd be more then willing to provide imput. Don
Orca	posted 03-19-2001 01:04 AM ET (US) Jim and Paul, Thanks for the post. It is great reward for my mostly lonely quest over the years to preserve my hull # 268. She has spent most of her life on a covered lift in fresh water. Paul's boat is a testimoial to how fortunate I am that I'm original and intact. We had Bearcat's for years. We replaced the Bearcat on our Nauset in 1989. My fater in Law was a great fisherman and loved the Bearcat.He trolled for hours at a very slow idle which we never duplicted with the Evinrude 90 we replaced it with. Yes, they said the parts were "impossible". The same dealer has condemned my preservation efforts over the years as stupid. So,go figure. I rationanlize that Mr. Fisher would not be upset with the Honda's that replaced the Bearcat's.
dgp	posted 03-19-2001 07:55 AM ET (US) In '91 BW did a 30th Anniversary model with the Montauk. I inquired to them about a 40th Anniversary for '01. No plans. Another missed opportunity but they are down playing and are making the older classic boats obsolete. Don
hauptjm	posted 03-19-2001 10:24 AM ET (US) I have a lump in my throat. This is the exact boat I grew up on in the late 70's and early 80's as a young buck just out of high school. My best friend's Dad bought it in 1971, and the oldest son still has it. This boat is truly a time machine. Wow!!!
james cosby	posted 03-19-2001 03:03 PM ET (US) Does anyone know the difference between the Outrage I,II's and III's? I saw this in the comments but don't know the difference. JC
dreid	posted 03-19-2001 04:06 PM ET (US) What a beautiful boat! Down here (s. LA) we seldom see one of the old "dump-trucks" in other than very ragged condition. Knowing they were the start of the larger hulls, I'd sort of figured Whaler's commitment to quality and finish in the larger boats must have improved over time, from an inauspicious start with the first 21's. Wrong! Your originally equipped no. 007 may be the finest piece of handiwork yet posted on this site. Never seen anything like it. Even that "Euro"-style transom looks cool. Hate to think what one would have to pay for such a rig with all that woodwork, new in today's dollars. If possiible, we'd love to see even more of your 21'. A picture of her underway would be nice. Thanks for sharing her with us!
dgp	posted 03-19-2001 05:27 PM ET (US) And what a bargain it was in 1970! In Y2K dollars it would sell for $25,330. Don
lhg	posted 03-19-2001 07:29 PM ET (US) Don: You're a bit conservative on your numbers. I remember 1971 very well, the intruduction year of the Outrage shown here. That was the year I bought my first NEW Whaler, a 1971 Nauset. It was also the year the Architect I worked for bought one of these new 1971 Outrages, with twin 85HP Mercs and a trailer. This boat, at the time, was beyond my budget, but he paid $8500 for the rig. That was a LOT of money back then, when you could buy a new Cadillac/Lincoln for $7000. The same new Cadillac now costs $45,000, so this boat would be an equivalent to over $50,000! Isn't that also what a new 21 Outrage would cost with twins?
dgp	posted 03-19-2001 09:23 PM ET (US) Larry, I used the inflation calculator on www.westegg.com/inflation I seriously doubt if Paul would sell his boat for $25 grand. Don
lhg	posted 03-19-2001 10:04 PM ET (US) If he would, I'd be heading for Massachusetts tomorrow morning. I think it's such a classy hull design (and BW's very first boat to handle twins) that it's crying for the twin engine look, regardless of function, so the first thing I'd do is put a pair of 4 stroke 60's on her! As soon as we stop dreaming, our minds are dead.
lhg	posted 03-20-2001 12:06 AM ET (US) I just dug out some pictures I have of a ribbed 21, taken in Charlevoix MI, on Lake Charlevoix, about 5 years ago. The boat is like new, all original, twin Johnson 70's, blue bottom paint and blue, aftermarket canvas, beautiful. Looks like it has saddle tanks. Does this boat belong to anybody visiting here? I was going to send the photos to JimH.
Orca	posted 03-20-2001 12:54 AM ET (US) Larry, I believe I know the boat. It is rigged the same way mine was before the Honda's. If it is the boat I know,it has been kept at Irish and owned by the same person since new. I don't recall the bottom paint. I'll make a call to him tomorrow and check it out.
lhg	posted 03-20-2001 03:32 AM ET (US) Yes, I photographed it docked in a large marina in front of a Condo complex, in the vicinity of the Irish boat shop remote marina.
jimh	posted 03-22-2001 09:21 AM ET (US) For folks interested in the Outrage 21 and repowering it, there is a good discussion of this at http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000208.html --jimh
Dickqu	posted 03-26-2001 11:15 PM ET (US) I was in Cape Coral, Florida at a Condo on the Rubicon Canal and an outrage like the one in this picture cruised past. The driver was suprised that I knew what it was. It appeared to be a little rough and the driver said he was refurbishing it. It ha an old Merc inline 6 cylinder motor mounted.
Dave Murray	posted 03-31-2001 07:54 AM ET (US) Paul- What a beautiful boat and great story- wanted to tell you that we saw two early 70's 21 outrage's used as tenders on the mega yacht "Blackhawk" in Georgetown Exuma, Bahamas during March 2001. We were on a sailboat moored near this yacht and saw the tenders many times- they and the mega yacht are owned by the "Blackhawk" hockey team. Both boats looked virtually brand new- totally restored- and had 175 Yamaha SW series OB's. Your right, everyone loved the old "sourpuss" tenders and wanted to know what they were.....Dave Murray
lhg	posted 03-31-2001 04:04 PM ET (US) Dave - I'm sure the players of the Chicago Blackhawks would love to claim the Yacht, but it's owned by the Wertz family of Chicago, who DO own the Blackhawks! I used to see it in and around Ft Lauderdale in the winter months, but have never seen it in Chicago.
Imp	posted 03-31-2001 08:46 PM ET (US) My 78 21 Outrage/decked model has a compartment under the v-berth with a drain plug underneath the water line, previous owner told me it was used as an ice box? Anybody haveany ideas?
lhg	posted 03-31-2001 09:08 PM ET (US) Imp: With a V-berth, it sounds like you have 1978 21 Revenge, not Outrage.
Imp	posted 04-01-2001 08:05 PM ET (US) Im pretty sure of what kind of boat I own, its an Outrageous hull with a foredeck and big windscreen and small cuddy-cabin. Ive seen one other out here in California. I can e-mail you a picture.
Imp	posted 04-02-2001 08:52 PM ET (US) Ihg, you are correct, I have a Revenge 21, I always thought of it as an Outrageous 21 with a forward deck! My apologies, Tom Hope to get Jim to post my pics soon!
lhg	posted 04-02-2001 09:32 PM ET (US) Tom, glad I could help you out. You might want to get in touch with Clark Roberts. He is the only other person here, that I am aware of, with the same boat. There is also a picture of a similar vintage 19' Revenge somewhere in the Cetacea section.
dfmcintyre	posted 04-07-2001 06:14 AM ET (US) Larry - Is there still a yacht in your area called the "Emerald K". Had/has a Donzi as one of her tenders, called "Another Emerald". Knowlton family, that also owned a sports team? Course we can't forget the Hanna tug family either. Don
DS_SUNBIRD	posted 07-19-2001 09:56 PM ET (US) The boat looks GREAT! One question though, Your MS registration seems to have way too many digits! You didn't goof and put the MSZ hull ID number on the bow instead of the registration number did you? The registration is usually MS then 4 digits, then 2 letters, for example: MS 1234 AB or MS-1234-AB. The Massachusetts (or any other state) State-issued Hull I.D. number will be 12 characters long, ex: MSZ12345mmyy where mm is month and yy year of issue. All boats built after 31 October 1972 were marked with a builder-applied HIN, those before that date, or those that are home-built will have a state-issued HIN. Massachusetts started issuing HINs to boats built before 1972 when they began requiring titles in 1991. Just trying to help, But I'm sure that you would rather have 8 characters on each side of the bow of this BEAUTIFUL Whaler, rather than the 12 character shown in the pics! This boat is just to nice looking to spoil her looks with excessive numbers on the bow. Rod J. ps: If you did goof and put the MSZ # on instead of the MS registration #, you are not the first (or the last) to make that mistake, I once saw a 13' Whaler that displayed the MSZ instead of the MS #. It took up half the length of the boat!
jimh	posted 07-19-2001 11:34 PM ET (US) Ironically, after these photos appeared in CETACEA we've not heard from Paul. He has not responded to any of the comments in the thread, so I don't know if he's seen them or the photos in the CETECEA section. --jimh
paul plante	posted 11-04-2001 05:46 PM ET (US) hi everyone So sorry I haven't responded.Will try to email you great people shortly.
Tony	posted 05-13-2002 09:02 PM ET (US) Paul This is the first time I've had the chance to view your 70 Outrage. I have one just like her. I wasn't lucky enough to get the original canvas, but I did buy her from the original owner. I notice that you have dual gas tanks. What size are they? The number on my BW is 00305. The only difference between our boats is mine has a teak bench seat infront of the console. What's the pitch on your prop?
ngraves	posted 05-15-2002 04:47 PM ET (US) Kaytara! She is so beautiful. You are a lucky man. My 21 "Moby Dick" is a 1971. I've had her since 1975 when my father purchased her in an estate sale. Her hull number is 610. She belonged to a commercial fisherman on the eastern shore of Virginia, so we started with a well used boat. The outrages are true battle wagons. From the local lake to the Gulf Stream, from sea rescue to sunbathing, they can go anywhere and do anything. Mine has. Take good care of Kaytara and she will always bring you home.
dspinosa	posted 10-26-2002 11:39 AM ET (US) I just happened to find this site and saw the 70 outrage. I also have the same boat and the hull #is 00430. I love the boat. the only problem is fuel capacity. Paul your boat looks great
tbirdsey	posted 10-27-2002 10:50 PM ET (US) dspinosa, Got any photos of your boat you can share. I have a 72 and I love seeing other examples of this amazing whaler.
DrinkNBud	posted 02-13-2003 07:06 PM ET (US) Beautiful boat Paul! I have a 21'Outrage from the same year! We have owned it since new. It cost $7400 new with boat, motor,and trailer. It originally came with the bearcat but the lower end fell off in Narragansett Bay! We then moved to a inline 6 Mercury 150 which was on her for 13 years, then when the #3 cylinder finally went in 1988, we went with the current v-6 150. The boats held up pretty well because we washed and garaged it after every one of its weekend trailered uses over the years. I like the tank setup you have, we still run portables. I need to find someone to remake the foward deck and some of the fittings for the stainless but other than that it will probably be around for thirty more years!
DrinkNBud	posted 02-20-2003 06:15 PM ET (US) Well, I found the hull #, its 00132. Does anyone have the actual amount of these that were produced that year?
paul plante	posted 02-26-2003 07:28 PM ET (US) Hi all. I've been away for a while, starting a family. I've decided to sell the boat and wanted to offer to a group that would truly appreciate it first. If you're interested, send me an email at paulplante2003@yahoo.com. Happy boating. Paul
jmhahnl	posted 09-25-2003 01:07 PM ET (US) Whalers are best when they are truley classic.
jimh	posted 09-26-2003 12:59 AM ET (US) [Administrative post]