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jimh posted 06-01-2001 12:17 AM ET (US)
The 40th page in the CETACEA collection was issued on June 1, 2001. Please add any comments or questions to this message thread.
See: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage40.html
jimh posted 06-01-2001 12:46 AM ET (US)
Let me start off by saying how terrific the picture of the 18-Outrage at Neah Bay is!
I know how hard it is to take pictures when in rough water; that one is just perfect. Kudos to Tim Dahl for getting that shot.
Also, I wanted to mention that Neah Bay is well known in the Great Lakes area, too. We have a US Coast Guard Cutter stationed in Cleveland--USCGC Neah Bay--named after that same inlet. It is a special 140-foot ice-breaking tug. I have had the pleasure of being aboard a sister ship, USCGC Bristol Bay on several occasion. They do rough, tough duty around here in the winter, and I see now why they have those particular namesakes.
Keith Silliman posted 06-01-2001 06:27 AM ET (US)
Great shots! New York EnCon uses many whalers-- the shot Tom took is of their newest. Most of the Forest Rangers use Montauks to patrol in the Adirondacks-- including Lake George. The Fish and Wildlife Technicans use them to aid in stocking smaller lakes.
kingfish posted 06-01-2001 08:29 AM ET (US)
Tom Clark - - Godfrey Daniels, What A Shot!!
JimH has a nice shot in his photographic record of our North Channel Rendezvous last year of Larry Goltz and his big 25 coming off a wake and getting air in a really pretty fashion, but you have nothing *but* air! Whew!!
Nice collection, Jim - particularly poignant message and photo of young Alex. And to consider the Inside Passage in a Montauk! There is a trip.
Good stuff, Maynard-
kingfish
SWarren posted 06-01-2001 08:37 AM ET (US)
Wow that picture is incredible. I bet he was not worried about stress cracks. I can rembember doing that in college in a 17 montauk in the ocean off of Pawleys Island. But we never got air like that.
jimh posted 06-01-2001 09:24 AM ET (US)
Thanks to Louie Kokinis for pointing out the NYS ENCON boat is a 21-Justice!
Peter posted 06-01-2001 11:00 AM ET (US)
Wow. That is just one awesome picture of an 18 Outrage in action, suitable for framing! I'd buy a blow up to hang on my wall (even if my wife objected)! I've done similar aerobatics in my former 18 Outrage although I don't have the pictures to show for it. No matter what the conditions, the 18 Outrage always seemed very composed and even in the worst following sea conditions, I never shipped water over the bow. I have see-sawed over a wave in a heavy following sea where the entire lower unit of the Johnson was completely out of the water. It was no big deal as it tracked as if it were on rails as Tom said.
hauptjm posted 06-01-2001 11:14 AM ET (US)
Great pictures and stories. jimh, whatever method you decide to use for placing pictures on the site will always be acceptable. We just love to see these boats. Did anyone else notice the Whaler in the backround of the picture of Alex's boat? I wonder if that's his Dad's vessel? I can't wait until my son is old enough to do the same.
Barry posted 06-01-2001 02:31 PM ET (US)
The picture of the 18 is OUTRAGEOUS! I hope that Tom and Jim don't mind that I immediately saved a copy to my laptop so that I could use it as "wallpaper".
dreid posted 06-04-2001 12:27 PM ET (US)
Tell you what, Tom. That photo of your "Flying 18'" just put me in a cold sweat. The maniac gene must be regressive in my line, because I've got a real aversion to heights... at least in my 18'. Kudoes for an awesome picture. How long before you needed back surgury after that stunt?
Dick posted 06-04-2001 11:16 PM ET (US)
Tom
That is an awsome photo. I have been boating for 45 years and the only time I have come close to a thrill like that was driving a 37 Fountain with twin 502s, not the same.
Dick
Tom W Clark posted 06-05-2001 12:21 AM ET (US)
If you've read my long-winded narrative that goes with the picture you know that I was merely the passenger. I credited the photo (I believe correctly) to Tim Dahl but when I sent John Pope an email link to this site and the photo he promptly tried to take credit for it. (John is quite a good photographer himself and I believe he had his camera on board as well). I suggested John get in touch with Tim and give him the link so he could see this photo and this site for himself and He and John could figure out who should be correctly credited for taking it. I presume John did make contact with Tim because this afternoon I received a CC from Tim of a reply he made to John. It made me chuckle and I include (perhaps inappropriately) the text of the message here:

Let's see now, as I remember it I was both driving and taking
pictures, while you were hanging over the stern "feeding the fish" not
catching them. I think that's what led to my catching the 150 pound halibut (on a salmon leader by the way.) Yes, yes I remember it well, it was a fine trip....
I still remember one of my favorite lines ever heard was by you as I
was hanging on for dear life, trusting (god knows why) that you knew what you were doing.... as I looked over at you, slightly concerned, your only response was to yell back "well the ad said 'fish with the big boys'!"
Thank for the forward!...good memories!
Tim.
jimh posted 06-06-2001 02:00 PM ET (US)
I know Alex asked me to rewrite his comments, but I love his two (perhaps unintended) phrases:
"I live my whaler" --sounds like some of the guys around here!
"got mad air"--the air under the boat does seem like it is mad at times!
--jimh
GAwhale posted 06-08-2001 12:18 PM ET (US)
The picture of the 18 Outrage is wild. I immediately forwarded it to my Dad and two brothers.
The picture of Alex reminds me of growing up. My parents had an Allied Seabreeze 35 sailboat kept on the coast of Maine and Massachusetts. I noticed that Alex's boat looks like it is registered in New York. As kids we always wanted a Whaler. We had a dingy with a two horse Johnson outboard(less trouble for us to get in to). It's ironic my brothers name is Alex. Now finally at the age of 37 I have my first Whaler.
csoffel posted 07-23-2001 03:44 PM ET (US)
To Casey Casebeer
From csoffel
I would like to take my '94 19' Outrage with 150 hp Merc and 80 gallon fuel tank to Alaska, from Seattle. Can you recommend what I will need to do to prepare my boat and what I should bring.
Kelly posted 07-18-2002 02:50 PM ET (US)
Does anybody know anything about the bow enclosure shown in picture 40-2. Kelly
Taylor posted 07-18-2002 04:58 PM ET (US)
That's got to be custom work. At least in Seattle, if you look under Boat-Canvas you can find a list of shops that can do that kind of thing to measure.
Notice that there is a zippered opening in the bow, which is a requirement since the enclosure keeps you from walking up the side of the boat. I was thinking of adding a zipper when I have the window replaced in my forward shelter. That would keep my kids from having to walk about the side of the boat.
I'm going to guess that the full length foward shelter is combined with some kind of casting platform fill-in in front of the console to allow sleeping up there. My wife has ruled out that kind of modification on my Montauk with the advice 'don't try and make it something that its not'. But if you are 25 years old, its a cool idea.
Kelly posted 07-18-2002 05:16 PM ET (US)
Taylor,
You are probably right, and your wife is probably right too. I just thought it looked like a nice roomy enclosure. Kelly

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jimh	posted 06-01-2001 12:17 AM ET (US) The 40th page in the CETACEA collection was issued on June 1, 2001. Please add any comments or questions to this message thread. See: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage40.html
jimh	posted 06-01-2001 12:46 AM ET (US) Let me start off by saying how terrific the picture of the 18-Outrage at Neah Bay is! I know how hard it is to take pictures when in rough water; that one is just perfect. Kudos to Tim Dahl for getting that shot. Also, I wanted to mention that Neah Bay is well known in the Great Lakes area, too. We have a US Coast Guard Cutter stationed in Cleveland--USCGC Neah Bay--named after that same inlet. It is a special 140-foot ice-breaking tug. I have had the pleasure of being aboard a sister ship, USCGC Bristol Bay on several occasion. They do rough, tough duty around here in the winter, and I see now why they have those particular namesakes.
Keith Silliman	posted 06-01-2001 06:27 AM ET (US) Great shots! New York EnCon uses many whalers-- the shot Tom took is of their newest. Most of the Forest Rangers use Montauks to patrol in the Adirondacks-- including Lake George. The Fish and Wildlife Technicans use them to aid in stocking smaller lakes.
kingfish	posted 06-01-2001 08:29 AM ET (US) Tom Clark - - Godfrey Daniels, What A Shot!! JimH has a nice shot in his photographic record of our North Channel Rendezvous last year of Larry Goltz and his big 25 coming off a wake and getting air in a really pretty fashion, but you have nothing but air! Whew!! Nice collection, Jim - particularly poignant message and photo of young Alex. And to consider the Inside Passage in a Montauk! There is a trip. Good stuff, Maynard- kingfish
SWarren	posted 06-01-2001 08:37 AM ET (US) Wow that picture is incredible. I bet he was not worried about stress cracks. I can rembember doing that in college in a 17 montauk in the ocean off of Pawleys Island. But we never got air like that.
jimh	posted 06-01-2001 09:24 AM ET (US) Thanks to Louie Kokinis for pointing out the NYS ENCON boat is a 21-Justice!
Peter	posted 06-01-2001 11:00 AM ET (US) Wow. That is just one awesome picture of an 18 Outrage in action, suitable for framing! I'd buy a blow up to hang on my wall (even if my wife objected)! I've done similar aerobatics in my former 18 Outrage although I don't have the pictures to show for it. No matter what the conditions, the 18 Outrage always seemed very composed and even in the worst following sea conditions, I never shipped water over the bow. I have see-sawed over a wave in a heavy following sea where the entire lower unit of the Johnson was completely out of the water. It was no big deal as it tracked as if it were on rails as Tom said.
hauptjm	posted 06-01-2001 11:14 AM ET (US) Great pictures and stories. jimh, whatever method you decide to use for placing pictures on the site will always be acceptable. We just love to see these boats. Did anyone else notice the Whaler in the backround of the picture of Alex's boat? I wonder if that's his Dad's vessel? I can't wait until my son is old enough to do the same.
Barry	posted 06-01-2001 02:31 PM ET (US) The picture of the 18 is OUTRAGEOUS! I hope that Tom and Jim don't mind that I immediately saved a copy to my laptop so that I could use it as "wallpaper".
dreid	posted 06-04-2001 12:27 PM ET (US) Tell you what, Tom. That photo of your "Flying 18'" just put me in a cold sweat. The maniac gene must be regressive in my line, because I've got a real aversion to heights... at least in my 18'. Kudoes for an awesome picture. How long before you needed back surgury after that stunt?
Dick	posted 06-04-2001 11:16 PM ET (US) Tom That is an awsome photo. I have been boating for 45 years and the only time I have come close to a thrill like that was driving a 37 Fountain with twin 502s, not the same. Dick
Tom W Clark	posted 06-05-2001 12:21 AM ET (US) If you've read my long-winded narrative that goes with the picture you know that I was merely the passenger. I credited the photo (I believe correctly) to Tim Dahl but when I sent John Pope an email link to this site and the photo he promptly tried to take credit for it. (John is quite a good photographer himself and I believe he had his camera on board as well). I suggested John get in touch with Tim and give him the link so he could see this photo and this site for himself and He and John could figure out who should be correctly credited for taking it. I presume John did make contact with Tim because this afternoon I received a CC from Tim of a reply he made to John. It made me chuckle and I include (perhaps inappropriately) the text of the message here: Let's see now, as I remember it I was both driving and taking pictures, while you were hanging over the stern "feeding the fish" not catching them. I think that's what led to my catching the 150 pound halibut (on a salmon leader by the way.) Yes, yes I remember it well, it was a fine trip.... I still remember one of my favorite lines ever heard was by you as I was hanging on for dear life, trusting (god knows why) that you knew what you were doing.... as I looked over at you, slightly concerned, your only response was to yell back "well the ad said 'fish with the big boys'!" Thank for the forward!...good memories! Tim.
jimh	posted 06-06-2001 02:00 PM ET (US) I know Alex asked me to rewrite his comments, but I love his two (perhaps unintended) phrases: "I live my whaler" --sounds like some of the guys around here! "got mad air"--the air under the boat does seem like it is mad at times! --jimh
GAwhale	posted 06-08-2001 12:18 PM ET (US) The picture of the 18 Outrage is wild. I immediately forwarded it to my Dad and two brothers. The picture of Alex reminds me of growing up. My parents had an Allied Seabreeze 35 sailboat kept on the coast of Maine and Massachusetts. I noticed that Alex's boat looks like it is registered in New York. As kids we always wanted a Whaler. We had a dingy with a two horse Johnson outboard(less trouble for us to get in to). It's ironic my brothers name is Alex. Now finally at the age of 37 I have my first Whaler.
csoffel	posted 07-23-2001 03:44 PM ET (US) To Casey Casebeer From csoffel I would like to take my '94 19' Outrage with 150 hp Merc and 80 gallon fuel tank to Alaska, from Seattle. Can you recommend what I will need to do to prepare my boat and what I should bring.
Kelly	posted 07-18-2002 02:50 PM ET (US) Does anybody know anything about the bow enclosure shown in picture 40-2. Kelly
Taylor	posted 07-18-2002 04:58 PM ET (US) That's got to be custom work. At least in Seattle, if you look under Boat-Canvas you can find a list of shops that can do that kind of thing to measure. Notice that there is a zippered opening in the bow, which is a requirement since the enclosure keeps you from walking up the side of the boat. I was thinking of adding a zipper when I have the window replaced in my forward shelter. That would keep my kids from having to walk about the side of the boat. I'm going to guess that the full length foward shelter is combined with some kind of casting platform fill-in in front of the console to allow sleeping up there. My wife has ruled out that kind of modification on my Montauk with the advice 'don't try and make it something that its not'. But if you are 25 years old, its a cool idea.
Kelly	posted 07-18-2002 05:16 PM ET (US) Taylor, You are probably right, and your wife is probably right too. I just thought it looked like a nice roomy enclosure. Kelly