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jimh posted 09-30-2001 10:15 AM ET (US)
This message thread is for comments on the photographs in
Cetacea Page 43, which was published on September 30, 2001, and features beautiful photographs by Barry Burtenshaw of his Montauk-17 on a fishing trip to northern Georgian Bay.
jimh posted 09-30-2001 10:21 AM ET (US)
Barry,
Thanks for sending these excellent photographs. I have been through Collins Inlet and Mill Lake many times, but never stopped to do any fishing. Now I see I have been making a big mistake!
--jimh
GAwhale posted 09-30-2001 03:26 PM ET (US)
Great Photos Barry! Some day your boys will be telling their kids about this wonderful trip.
A Montauk can be towed by a moderate sized car. I tow mine with a Taurus Wagon. With my tow vehicle and your minivan I feel the weakest link is the transmission. 1991 was the worst year for the Taurus. I have the 24 valve engine which supposedly has a better transmission.
Have you had any trouble with your tow vehicle?
Drisney posted 09-30-2001 07:20 PM ET (US)
Wonderful pictures...Looks like a wonderful family memory!! This brings up the point of not using stainless props..... They are beautiful pieces of work but are stronger than the lower end...as you found out. An aluminum prop is more likely to be destoyed and leave the lower end intact...cost approx $125....Dave
jimh posted 09-30-2001 07:48 PM ET (US)
If you look closely you can see the big hole where the skeg used to be. I don't think the prop material would have made much difference on this impact!
gunnelgrabber posted 09-30-2001 08:02 PM ET (US)
good pictures!...that beautiful wood stern seat- platform?..is it factory or homemade? can't recall seeing one like it...lm
whalernut posted 09-30-2001 08:49 PM ET (US)
Beutiful Montauk!!! If I were to buy a Montauk, I would like a 73` -75` year model, I love those years! As you know I have a 73` `16 Currituck and absolutely love her! Regards-Jack Graner.
hauptjm posted 10-01-2001 11:23 AM ET (US)
What a treasure of photos. Great memories for your boys. Whalers just look good with kids, both young and old.
whalerron posted 10-01-2001 11:06 PM ET (US)
I too am curious about that stern seat. Do you have some other pictures of the seat? What kind of wood is it made out of?
I too recently hooked myself with one of the 3 hooks on a treblehook. There is a new method that is supposedly the accepted way of removing a hook. Do a search on the web for "Fishhook removal" and they have pictures and instructions on many sites. The docs now suggest that you don't push the hook through because it doubles the tissue damage and infection risk.
SuburbanBoy posted 10-02-2001 11:21 AM ET (US)
Your great fishing story reminds me of some comments made by an Ontario camp owner about Whalers. "Great boats, but too valuable to use in most Canadian waters". He felt that is only a matter of time until you strike an underwater rock and "hole the hull". He then mentioned that a rock collision is the reason that almost all camp owners use aluminum hulls.
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Georgian Bay Boater posted 10-02-2001 11:38 AM ET (US)
Sub,
Interesting point you make about striking a rock, however this logic would dictate that carelessness is expected.
I think that the use of Whalers in Ontario waters would be a benifit, if you did hit something, then, unlike most other boats you still have floatation.
Just my point of view though.
JFM posted 10-02-2001 01:00 PM ET (US)
What a wonderful trip! Those boys will have the memory of a lifetime. I also love that rear seat in the montauk. Was that factory? Regards, Jay
SuburbanBoy posted 10-02-2001 02:33 PM ET (US)
GBB,
I believe the camp owners point was, the aluminum boats would dent instead of puncture. But, this could be another urban legend, without merit.
sub
Georgian Bay Boater posted 10-02-2001 02:44 PM ET (US)
Sub,
Quite true that the aluminum boats do bend, but there are some sharp rocks in the bay and a tear in an aluminum hull is not uncommon, even with heavy gauge aluminum.
I believe "to each his own" is the correct expression.
All the best,
Andreas
Barry posted 10-02-2001 09:44 PM ET (US)
The rear seat is a teak swim platform for a larger boat just cut down to fit. Here's some more info on the seat from earlier posts. Find my post and click for some pics.
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000326.html
I recently discovered some additional damage. The battery was shot. The shock may have caused it to drop a plate. I used this for an excuse to replace it with a new Optima.
Thanks,
Barry
gvisko posted 04-30-2002 08:51 PM ET (US)
barry tell me how you mounted swim step
i put one on my 87 montauk and only found wood
for top screw in transom gvisko

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Author	Topic: Page 43: Montauk Fishing Trip, Sept. 30,2001
jimh	posted 09-30-2001 10:15 AM ET (US) This message thread is for comments on the photographs in Cetacea Page 43, which was published on September 30, 2001, and features beautiful photographs by Barry Burtenshaw of his Montauk-17 on a fishing trip to northern Georgian Bay.
jimh	posted 09-30-2001 10:21 AM ET (US) Barry, Thanks for sending these excellent photographs. I have been through Collins Inlet and Mill Lake many times, but never stopped to do any fishing. Now I see I have been making a big mistake! --jimh
GAwhale	posted 09-30-2001 03:26 PM ET (US) Great Photos Barry! Some day your boys will be telling their kids about this wonderful trip. A Montauk can be towed by a moderate sized car. I tow mine with a Taurus Wagon. With my tow vehicle and your minivan I feel the weakest link is the transmission. 1991 was the worst year for the Taurus. I have the 24 valve engine which supposedly has a better transmission. Have you had any trouble with your tow vehicle?
Drisney	posted 09-30-2001 07:20 PM ET (US) Wonderful pictures...Looks like a wonderful family memory!! This brings up the point of not using stainless props..... They are beautiful pieces of work but are stronger than the lower end...as you found out. An aluminum prop is more likely to be destoyed and leave the lower end intact...cost approx $125....Dave
jimh	posted 09-30-2001 07:48 PM ET (US) If you look closely you can see the big hole where the skeg used to be. I don't think the prop material would have made much difference on this impact!
gunnelgrabber	posted 09-30-2001 08:02 PM ET (US) good pictures!...that beautiful wood stern seat- platform?..is it factory or homemade? can't recall seeing one like it...lm
whalernut	posted 09-30-2001 08:49 PM ET (US) Beutiful Montauk!!! If I were to buy a Montauk, I would like a 73` -75` year model, I love those years! As you know I have a 73` `16 Currituck and absolutely love her! Regards-Jack Graner.
hauptjm	posted 10-01-2001 11:23 AM ET (US) What a treasure of photos. Great memories for your boys. Whalers just look good with kids, both young and old.
whalerron	posted 10-01-2001 11:06 PM ET (US) I too am curious about that stern seat. Do you have some other pictures of the seat? What kind of wood is it made out of? I too recently hooked myself with one of the 3 hooks on a treblehook. There is a new method that is supposedly the accepted way of removing a hook. Do a search on the web for "Fishhook removal" and they have pictures and instructions on many sites. The docs now suggest that you don't push the hook through because it doubles the tissue damage and infection risk.
SuburbanBoy	posted 10-02-2001 11:21 AM ET (US) Your great fishing story reminds me of some comments made by an Ontario camp owner about Whalers. "Great boats, but too valuable to use in most Canadian waters". He felt that is only a matter of time until you strike an underwater rock and "hole the hull". He then mentioned that a rock collision is the reason that almost all camp owners use aluminum hulls. sub sub
Georgian Bay Boater	posted 10-02-2001 11:38 AM ET (US) Sub, Interesting point you make about striking a rock, however this logic would dictate that carelessness is expected. I think that the use of Whalers in Ontario waters would be a benifit, if you did hit something, then, unlike most other boats you still have floatation. Just my point of view though.
JFM	posted 10-02-2001 01:00 PM ET (US) What a wonderful trip! Those boys will have the memory of a lifetime. I also love that rear seat in the montauk. Was that factory? Regards, Jay
SuburbanBoy	posted 10-02-2001 02:33 PM ET (US) GBB, I believe the camp owners point was, the aluminum boats would dent instead of puncture. But, this could be another urban legend, without merit. sub
Georgian Bay Boater	posted 10-02-2001 02:44 PM ET (US) Sub, Quite true that the aluminum boats do bend, but there are some sharp rocks in the bay and a tear in an aluminum hull is not uncommon, even with heavy gauge aluminum. I believe "to each his own" is the correct expression. All the best, Andreas
Barry	posted 10-02-2001 09:44 PM ET (US) The rear seat is a teak swim platform for a larger boat just cut down to fit. Here's some more info on the seat from earlier posts. Find my post and click for some pics. http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000326.html I recently discovered some additional damage. The battery was shot. The shock may have caused it to drop a plate. I used this for an excuse to replace it with a new Optima. Thanks, Barry
gvisko	posted 04-30-2002 08:51 PM ET (US) barry tell me how you mounted swim step i put one on my 87 montauk and only found wood for top screw in transom gvisko