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jimh posted 04-10-2002 08:28 AM ET (US)
This thread is for comments about Cetacea Page 56 which features Carl Neusel's classic 13-Sport repowered by a modern Mercury 4-stroke. This article first appeared April 10, 2002.
jimh posted 04-10-2002 08:51 AM ET (US)
I notice in photo 56-01 that there are a pair of shoes on the driveway, probably your son's. This must be the secret to keeping that gelcoat looking so beautiful--"Board Only Barefoot" just like the boatshows! :-)
Arch Autenreith posted 04-10-2002 09:08 AM ET (US)
Very nice indeed, Carl! The riser-to-transom adaption looks factory.
Cheers to another reborn classic!
Arch
hauptjm posted 04-10-2002 10:30 AM ET (US)
The combination of the lift and set-back really puts that Merc back from the transom nicely. I'll bet that baby flys. Great job. jimh, you know you're probbly not far off on the price of that prop compared to this boat when new.
Taylor posted 04-10-2002 03:45 PM ET (US)
The elusive smell in of 40 year old wood in boats can be somthing else.
My grandmother owned a minty 1947 Chris Craft and it became part of the smell of summer in the memories of my youth. Along with fresh rasberries on the vine that heady combination of primer fuel for the flat head engine, lake water and the je ne sais qua of an old Chris was so sooo evocative.
In a more recent year I was walking along the dock at amid some classic cruisers with my Aunt Dorothy. I commented on the sweet smell of old boats, to which she immediatly responded... 'That's dry rot'.
Realist killjoy. Must have to do with being raised during the Depression.
Mark Gallagher posted 04-10-2002 08:51 PM ET (US)
What a great job! Nice detail work on the engine/ bracket setup. A real beauty.
I hope to get a 13 or 15 in the next few years to restore with my son. These types of photos give inspiration.
Mark
CarlRobert posted 04-10-2002 10:41 PM ET (US)
Thanks, everyone, for the very nice comments!
As far as the 'shoes off policy', I make sure my son wears clean socks, too! :)
Actually, when I first got the boat it was quite oxidized and had several faded decals of leaping salmon on the sides. But, the gelcoat was in great shape because it was one of those Whalers that had spent most of its life in the garage. Meguiar's 44 and 56 worked well to bring the colors out.
As far as performance, with 2 adults on board and a full six gallon tank of gas, we achieved a little over 36 mph according to a GPS unit. When I'm alone in the boat, WOT is a little scary because the slightest cross breeze seems to push it from its intended course. I don't think a whole lot of boat is in contact with water at that point so I don't go WOT alone very often.
My son, Robert, and I have had a blast restoring this boat. He spends as much time on Classic Whaler as I and is a vertitable walking encyclopedia of Whaler facts!
Thanks again,
Carl
lhg posted 04-10-2002 10:56 PM ET (US)
It's a beautiful restoration job, and brings back a lot of memories. I did the same project in 1968 on a then 10 years old, oxididized 1958 Sport 13. I'm happy to see the bow rail being used. I think it's a great safety feature, not often seen. Must be nice with that 4 stroke EFI 40HP.
CarlRobert posted 04-11-2002 12:10 AM ET (US)
Since I enjoy fly fishing for Striped Bass in our local impoundments, the high bow rails allow me to brace myself when casting a 10 wt line. I also feel my kids are safer when fishing in the bow area.
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 04-12-2002 04:44 PM ET (US)
In picture #6 what is that wooden box?Battery?
CarlRobert posted 04-13-2002 10:49 AM ET (US)
Bob,
That was once the fore bench seat. The previous owner, an avid fisherman, modified the seat so one could walk to the bow without having to step over the seat. I have found it useful for such, in particular when fighting large salmon that have a tendency to take you "around the boat".
It also appears to be the ideal seat position for a passenger to balance the boat when underway.
Flipper posted 04-13-2002 09:00 PM ET (US)
Nice job Carl, great solution to an age-old hangup!Keep those loops tight:)
David Ratusnik posted 10-22-2002 09:21 PM ET (US)
Carl- I'm in the process of assisting a close friend rebuilding his '84 13'er. We are going to mount a '87 Johnson 48 SPL- as repower. A jackplate interests us, manual versus power as your boat so nicely uses. Question- where did you purchase the power jackplate and roughly, what did it cost?? Thanks David
CarlRobert posted 10-28-2002 07:37 PM ET (US)
David,
The CMC jackplate I installed is a fixed vertical lift, The Merc outboard is equipped with power tlt and trim.
I ordered the vertical lifts directly from Cook Manufacturing via telephone. They provided very timely service. I believe the cost for a pair of vertical lifts was approximately $125.
Over the last year and a half since the installation, I have yet to see any stress cracks or have transom trouble. I have used the boat many times dragging my kids around on kneeboards, tubes and the like-as well as fishing in fresh and salt. I could not be happier!
Carl
David Ratusnik posted 10-28-2002 10:22 PM ET (US)
Carl- Thanks for the info. Your boat is fab. David and Sonny
cbauman posted 12-19-2002 01:38 AM ET (US)
Enjoyed the article and photos on page 56. I have owned (for 7 years) what I believe to be a 1962 13' Whaler that I have been restoring. I reenforced the transom, with fiberglass mat, when cracks developed where it rises out of the dip that accomodates the motor. I also reenforced the transom on port & stbd. corners. I would recommend persistent monitoring of these high stress areas if equipped with a 40hp configuration. (I have a 20hp Mercury 2 stroke). I had to rebuild the bow, after years of use breaking up log jams on the Ohio River during Spring flooding. My Whaler is used primarily as a dinghy for my 52'Seagoing Houseboat.
whaler65 posted 08-25-2007 01:13 PM ET (US)
BEAUTIFUL!!!
I have a similar vintage 13' boat (1965)that need lots of cosmetic work. Can anyone give adice and how-to info on new gelcoating, new transom bumper and new bow (red/green) light and wiring? Also, proper way to refinish mohogany?
Also what is the shaft length the boat originally called for? I am thinking of buying a used 15" 4 stroke Honda enegine . . .to replace the loud Evinrude I have. My boat now have a metal add-on plate that spans over the scalloped transom, so the long shaft works.

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Author	Topic: Page 56: 13-Repower, April 10, 2002
jimh	posted 04-10-2002 08:28 AM ET (US) This thread is for comments about Cetacea Page 56 which features Carl Neusel's classic 13-Sport repowered by a modern Mercury 4-stroke. This article first appeared April 10, 2002.
jimh	posted 04-10-2002 08:51 AM ET (US) I notice in photo 56-01 that there are a pair of shoes on the driveway, probably your son's. This must be the secret to keeping that gelcoat looking so beautiful--"Board Only Barefoot" just like the boatshows! :-)
Arch Autenreith	posted 04-10-2002 09:08 AM ET (US) Very nice indeed, Carl! The riser-to-transom adaption looks factory. Cheers to another reborn classic! Arch
hauptjm	posted 04-10-2002 10:30 AM ET (US) The combination of the lift and set-back really puts that Merc back from the transom nicely. I'll bet that baby flys. Great job. jimh, you know you're probbly not far off on the price of that prop compared to this boat when new.
Taylor	posted 04-10-2002 03:45 PM ET (US) The elusive smell in of 40 year old wood in boats can be somthing else. My grandmother owned a minty 1947 Chris Craft and it became part of the smell of summer in the memories of my youth. Along with fresh rasberries on the vine that heady combination of primer fuel for the flat head engine, lake water and the je ne sais qua of an old Chris was so sooo evocative. In a more recent year I was walking along the dock at amid some classic cruisers with my Aunt Dorothy. I commented on the sweet smell of old boats, to which she immediatly responded... 'That's dry rot'. Realist killjoy. Must have to do with being raised during the Depression.
Mark Gallagher	posted 04-10-2002 08:51 PM ET (US) What a great job! Nice detail work on the engine/ bracket setup. A real beauty. I hope to get a 13 or 15 in the next few years to restore with my son. These types of photos give inspiration. Mark
CarlRobert	posted 04-10-2002 10:41 PM ET (US) Thanks, everyone, for the very nice comments! As far as the 'shoes off policy', I make sure my son wears clean socks, too! :) Actually, when I first got the boat it was quite oxidized and had several faded decals of leaping salmon on the sides. But, the gelcoat was in great shape because it was one of those Whalers that had spent most of its life in the garage. Meguiar's 44 and 56 worked well to bring the colors out. As far as performance, with 2 adults on board and a full six gallon tank of gas, we achieved a little over 36 mph according to a GPS unit. When I'm alone in the boat, WOT is a little scary because the slightest cross breeze seems to push it from its intended course. I don't think a whole lot of boat is in contact with water at that point so I don't go WOT alone very often. My son, Robert, and I have had a blast restoring this boat. He spends as much time on Classic Whaler as I and is a vertitable walking encyclopedia of Whaler facts! Thanks again, Carl
lhg	posted 04-10-2002 10:56 PM ET (US) It's a beautiful restoration job, and brings back a lot of memories. I did the same project in 1968 on a then 10 years old, oxididized 1958 Sport 13. I'm happy to see the bow rail being used. I think it's a great safety feature, not often seen. Must be nice with that 4 stroke EFI 40HP.
CarlRobert	posted 04-11-2002 12:10 AM ET (US) Since I enjoy fly fishing for Striped Bass in our local impoundments, the high bow rails allow me to brace myself when casting a 10 wt line. I also feel my kids are safer when fishing in the bow area.
BOB KEMMLER JR	posted 04-12-2002 04:44 PM ET (US) In picture #6 what is that wooden box?Battery?
CarlRobert	posted 04-13-2002 10:49 AM ET (US) Bob, That was once the fore bench seat. The previous owner, an avid fisherman, modified the seat so one could walk to the bow without having to step over the seat. I have found it useful for such, in particular when fighting large salmon that have a tendency to take you "around the boat". It also appears to be the ideal seat position for a passenger to balance the boat when underway.
Flipper	posted 04-13-2002 09:00 PM ET (US) Nice job Carl, great solution to an age-old hangup!Keep those loops tight:)
David Ratusnik	posted 10-22-2002 09:21 PM ET (US) Carl- I'm in the process of assisting a close friend rebuilding his '84 13'er. We are going to mount a '87 Johnson 48 SPL- as repower. A jackplate interests us, manual versus power as your boat so nicely uses. Question- where did you purchase the power jackplate and roughly, what did it cost?? Thanks David
CarlRobert	posted 10-28-2002 07:37 PM ET (US) David, The CMC jackplate I installed is a fixed vertical lift, The Merc outboard is equipped with power tlt and trim. I ordered the vertical lifts directly from Cook Manufacturing via telephone. They provided very timely service. I believe the cost for a pair of vertical lifts was approximately $125. Over the last year and a half since the installation, I have yet to see any stress cracks or have transom trouble. I have used the boat many times dragging my kids around on kneeboards, tubes and the like-as well as fishing in fresh and salt. I could not be happier! Carl
David Ratusnik	posted 10-28-2002 10:22 PM ET (US) Carl- Thanks for the info. Your boat is fab. David and Sonny
cbauman	posted 12-19-2002 01:38 AM ET (US) Enjoyed the article and photos on page 56. I have owned (for 7 years) what I believe to be a 1962 13' Whaler that I have been restoring. I reenforced the transom, with fiberglass mat, when cracks developed where it rises out of the dip that accomodates the motor. I also reenforced the transom on port & stbd. corners. I would recommend persistent monitoring of these high stress areas if equipped with a 40hp configuration. (I have a 20hp Mercury 2 stroke). I had to rebuild the bow, after years of use breaking up log jams on the Ohio River during Spring flooding. My Whaler is used primarily as a dinghy for my 52'Seagoing Houseboat.
whaler65	posted 08-25-2007 01:13 PM ET (US) BEAUTIFUL!!! I have a similar vintage 13' boat (1965)that need lots of cosmetic work. Can anyone give adice and how-to info on new gelcoating, new transom bumper and new bow (red/green) light and wiring? Also, proper way to refinish mohogany? Also what is the shaft length the boat originally called for? I am thinking of buying a used 15" 4 stroke Honda enegine . . .to replace the loud Evinrude I have. My boat now have a metal add-on plate that spans over the scalloped transom, so the long shaft works.