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jimh posted 07-23-2002 10:52 PM ET (US)
Please use this message thread for comments or questions on the boats seen in Cetacea Page60 , which features three 16/17 Whalers which aren't Montauks.
bdb posted 07-24-2002 07:34 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the new page Jim. Neat to see innovation at work.
JDH posted 07-24-2002 12:01 PM ET (US)
What color is the final finish? Paint or gelcoat?
Turned out really nice!
hauptjm posted 07-24-2002 04:01 PM ET (US)
Dr. Frankenstein, you're a genius!! I would never have believed that boat would look like it does. Restoration doesn't begin to describe it.
T Party posted 07-24-2002 05:06 PM ET (US)
Great work, Mr. Livingstone!
Question: I have noticed that my Montauk will sometimes porpoise with the weight shifted back towards the stern. Have you noticed any tendency to porpoise at WOT? I like the idea of more room in the bow. If you ever want to repower with more horsepower, you may need to shift some weight forward. 29 mph on a 45 hp motor is really plenty fast for that boat anyway (I generally cruise at about 30 on flat water), and I bet that four stroke really sips the gas...
Great work, and many thanks to Mr. Schultz and Mr. Klein for sharing their beautiful boats with us - and to Jim for posting the pictures.
Lagged posted 07-24-2002 05:13 PM ET (US)
The seats on the 17 Standerd look really nice. I want to do soemthing just like that on my 13. Where did you buy those?
whalernut posted 07-24-2002 08:23 PM ET (US)
Great work guys, and great looking Whalers!! Jack.
David Livingstone posted 07-24-2002 08:37 PM ET (US)
Hello Folks, thanks for your comments on my restored 16 ft whaler.
JDH: The color is white and I have to admit that it is paint and not new gelcoat. In fact the paint is Fishermans White - $18.95 CDN per gallon. I had it on my other whaler for three years and it still looked great. This old boat worked hard for 36 years and had already been recoated a number of times with and paint and goodness knows what else. When you look back at the pictures on page 30 when the boat had no floor, the commerical diver was still using it to pour cement and had a 30 hp on it.
T Party: The boat doesn't porpoise unless I trim the motor up to much. This winter I am installing a larger gas tank and new steering and will move the consol ahead 6" to offset the additional weight.
Thanks again for your comments,
David
dscew posted 07-26-2002 06:59 PM ET (US)
Peter, very nice job on my beloved Standard! Nice to see her again. How's she running?
JDH posted 07-31-2002 07:02 PM ET (US)
David -
Where did you buy the paint for under $20 CAN a gallon? I live 20 minutes
from Canada, so I may just have to check it out.
Many Thanks,
Jim
BTW - The email in your profile didn't work.
jimh posted 07-31-2002 08:41 PM ET (US)
[I think I fixed the email address problem for David--jimh]
weaverf posted 08-01-2002 10:16 AM ET (US)
I am about 70% done on mine, doing exactly the same thing to the same size boat. You could save me some time on several items. First, how far from the transom did you locate the center console. What size gas tank are you going to add and where will it be located? What steering are you going to use?? on the subfloor did you use treated plywood, exterior or anything special?? How thick was the plywood??? I have a 70 HP Mercury stroke that I am going to put on the boat. Thanks for you help. After hundreds of hours on my project I am probably one of few that can appreciate the work involved. I like what I am ending up with but I would not do it again. your boat looks great!!
LilSniffWhaler posted 09-03-2002 06:58 PM ET (US)
My whaler is a 1966 and is completely restored , i sent some pictures to you before but you never put them up. But once i get a digital camera, i will send them to you, my whaler (no offence) is all original yet that i put it back into shape.
jimh posted 09-04-2002 08:41 PM ET (US)
The message threads in this topic area are for comments about the boats that have appeared in the CETACEA pages, not about boats that have not appeared in Cetacea.

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Author	Topic: Cetacea Page 60: 16/17 Whalers, July 23, 2002
jimh	posted 07-23-2002 10:52 PM ET (US) Please use this message thread for comments or questions on the boats seen in Cetacea Page60 , which features three 16/17 Whalers which aren't Montauks.
bdb	posted 07-24-2002 07:34 AM ET (US) Thanks for the new page Jim. Neat to see innovation at work.
JDH	posted 07-24-2002 12:01 PM ET (US) What color is the final finish? Paint or gelcoat? Turned out really nice!
hauptjm	posted 07-24-2002 04:01 PM ET (US) Dr. Frankenstein, you're a genius!! I would never have believed that boat would look like it does. Restoration doesn't begin to describe it.
T Party	posted 07-24-2002 05:06 PM ET (US) Great work, Mr. Livingstone! Question: I have noticed that my Montauk will sometimes porpoise with the weight shifted back towards the stern. Have you noticed any tendency to porpoise at WOT? I like the idea of more room in the bow. If you ever want to repower with more horsepower, you may need to shift some weight forward. 29 mph on a 45 hp motor is really plenty fast for that boat anyway (I generally cruise at about 30 on flat water), and I bet that four stroke really sips the gas... Great work, and many thanks to Mr. Schultz and Mr. Klein for sharing their beautiful boats with us - and to Jim for posting the pictures.
Lagged	posted 07-24-2002 05:13 PM ET (US) The seats on the 17 Standerd look really nice. I want to do soemthing just like that on my 13. Where did you buy those?
whalernut	posted 07-24-2002 08:23 PM ET (US) Great work guys, and great looking Whalers!! Jack.
David Livingstone	posted 07-24-2002 08:37 PM ET (US) Hello Folks, thanks for your comments on my restored 16 ft whaler. JDH: The color is white and I have to admit that it is paint and not new gelcoat. In fact the paint is Fishermans White - $18.95 CDN per gallon. I had it on my other whaler for three years and it still looked great. This old boat worked hard for 36 years and had already been recoated a number of times with and paint and goodness knows what else. When you look back at the pictures on page 30 when the boat had no floor, the commerical diver was still using it to pour cement and had a 30 hp on it. T Party: The boat doesn't porpoise unless I trim the motor up to much. This winter I am installing a larger gas tank and new steering and will move the consol ahead 6" to offset the additional weight. Thanks again for your comments, David
dscew	posted 07-26-2002 06:59 PM ET (US) Peter, very nice job on my beloved Standard! Nice to see her again. How's she running?
JDH	posted 07-31-2002 07:02 PM ET (US) David - Where did you buy the paint for under $20 CAN a gallon? I live 20 minutes from Canada, so I may just have to check it out. Many Thanks, Jim BTW - The email in your profile didn't work.
jimh	posted 07-31-2002 08:41 PM ET (US) [I think I fixed the email address problem for David--jimh]
weaverf	posted 08-01-2002 10:16 AM ET (US) I am about 70% done on mine, doing exactly the same thing to the same size boat. You could save me some time on several items. First, how far from the transom did you locate the center console. What size gas tank are you going to add and where will it be located? What steering are you going to use?? on the subfloor did you use treated plywood, exterior or anything special?? How thick was the plywood??? I have a 70 HP Mercury stroke that I am going to put on the boat. Thanks for you help. After hundreds of hours on my project I am probably one of few that can appreciate the work involved. I like what I am ending up with but I would not do it again. your boat looks great!!
LilSniffWhaler	posted 09-03-2002 06:58 PM ET (US) My whaler is a 1966 and is completely restored , i sent some pictures to you before but you never put them up. But once i get a digital camera, i will send them to you, my whaler (no offence) is all original yet that i put it back into shape.
jimh	posted 09-04-2002 08:41 PM ET (US) The message threads in this topic area are for comments about the boats that have appeared in the CETACEA pages, not about boats that have not appeared in Cetacea.