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jimh posted 10-29-2002 11:32 PM ET (US)
Please use this message thread for comments on the beautiful Whaler NEWPORT that is featured in Page 66 of Cetacea.
jimh posted 10-29-2002 11:34 PM ET (US)
Oops--forgot to include a hyperlink to the page. Please see:
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage66.html
hauptjm posted 10-30-2002 11:28 AM ET (US)
Great photos of a great boat. That Evinrude looks like it came with the boat. It gives the whole package a perfect "period" look. I think this is a beautiful example of the quality product that used to come out of BW. Funny how those Classic Boston Whalers look so good with kids and dogs; maybe because kids and dogs and Whalers were made for pure fun. Enjoy.
jimh posted 10-30-2002 12:07 PM ET (US)
I was thinking about all the awful fashions that people wore in the 1970's, those polyester suits, the floral print shirts. That stuff looks so out of style today, yet this classic Whaler from 1976 and its Evinrude outboard look completely in-fashion, and perhaps even more fashionable than many of the boats made today.
The neutral hues of the hull and canvas are nicely accented with those red and blue trim lines on the rub rail and motor.
And how do you get the dog to sit so still?
tabasco posted 10-30-2002 01:13 PM ET (US)
Jim-
Another first rate job. I hope my boat looks that good when it's 26 years old.
hauptjm posted 10-30-2002 02:04 PM ET (US)
jimh, regarding your fashion comments: Boats are like clothes, the Classics never go out of style.
hardensheetmetal posted 10-30-2002 03:30 PM ET (US)
Jim-
Great article, I owned a Newport from about 1992 to 1997. This boat makes me yurn for summer more than any other Whaler. There used to be a great quote about the Newport, in one of the older Whaler catologs, it went something like " we would be foolish to say thatthe amount of fun went up with the size of a boat" Meaning I guess that you could have just as much fun, if not more in a 17 Newport, as you could in a 22 Outrage.
Anyway, great job.
Dan
Sam Collins posted 10-30-2002 03:58 PM ET (US)
The 1976 brochure features the Newport on page 14 and the information reads as follows:"The Queen of our 17-foot family boats, Newport features non-skid side and bow decks for easy boarding and provides additional storage space beneath. The low profile bow rail and console rail give security to passengers forward of the console, and the smoked plexiglass windscreen protects them from the wind.
"Two padded bucket seats are located just forward ot the console. They are located low in the boat for security and wind protection. They also keep heads low enough so the helmsman, even when sitting, can see forward without obstruction. It's a great place to put the kids where you can keep an eye on them.
"The reversible pilot seat has a cushioned backrest and two safety handles. Two fuel tank mats under the seat hold a pair of twelve gallon tanks. An optional 4-man seat is also available. (See page 22 for details.)
"Weather protection is afforded by a unique flying top set. The forward shelter zips onto the bow rail, leaving the plexiglass windshield exposed. This allows light to enter the forward cuddy area.
The removable windshield gives additional spray protection, and the flying top offers sun protection.
"Newport 17 - a racy Whaler with the family in mind."
Note: The photos within the 1976 brochure show only Pre-Smirk designed Newport.
11 footer posted 10-30-2002 04:54 PM ET (US)
I just can't get over how [well] the outboard [goes with] the boat. A very nice looking rig!
11
jimh posted 10-30-2002 10:17 PM ET (US)
Thanks for appending that interesting quote from the brochure. Whaler's old catalogue prose is quite entertaining. It's much better than the sentence fragments they use in advertising today.
Marlin posted 10-31-2002 10:08 AM ET (US)
Sentence fragments. Like "A ski boat. Or a party boat." Or "More storage from the bow to the stern." And lots of sentences that start with "And".
I think. A sentence should have. All the required. Parts. Of speech.
Taylor posted 10-31-2002 03:16 PM ET (US)
Nice to see the Newport done justice in a Cetecea page. The only one I've really seen before was cruddy by comparison. I wonder if this will help people make up there mind between the Newport and the Montauk.
One thing that I noticed is how high that Newport sits at the stern, even with the engine back six inches. In one photo, I think I can see the chine out of water at the stern. Is that a really light engine, or is it just the weight of weimaraner forward, or do Newports sit a little more bow down?
lhg posted 10-31-2002 04:29 PM ET (US)
People have forgotten that those older outboards, 90-140HP, in either OMC V-4 version or Merc I-6 version, only weighed about 275 lbs. That's what a 4-stroke 50 or 60 now weighs. But I would also imagine that a Newport is a little more bow heavy than a Montauk, but not much. It's probably the pooch!
Lewis posted 10-31-2002 06:08 PM ET (US)
Great Page! Q- What is proper flag etiquette?
Taylor posted 10-31-2002 08:37 PM ET (US)
Flag etiquette is something that was very exact about when I was, say, 13. I'm a little more tolerant now, but only a little.
Chapmans's is the authority, and that US Power Squadron flag should be flown from the stern staff, in place of a US flag or the Yacht Ensign. Of course I flew the yacht ensign in Canada, so I expect that there is a search warrant out on me now. :)
On a whaler, I treat the light pole as the stern staff.
http://www.usps.org/f_stuff/etiquett.html#usps-ensign
DaveS posted 11-01-2002 09:48 PM ET (US)
Nice pics of a nice boat. I'm glad I stopped my conversion from the newport to montauk at the console. Now, if only my engine matched as well...
Good luck and enjoy...
DaveS
boxers posted 11-03-2002 01:04 AM ET (US)
Nice story to complement your excellent choice of whalers. This past summer we trailered our 13ft 40th Anniversary up 900 miles to Walloon Lake, MI. One day we ran across a Newport and we didn't know what model it was.
The Newport is a classic as they come. With the period correct engine, canvas and morse controls observers must think they have been transported back the 70s.
Outstanding job on your part and a little luck to find such great example. Thanks for sharing it with us.
Jholmes105 posted 11-03-2002 05:51 AM ET (US)
WOW! Thank you for all the nice comments on my whaler. It is 5:30 in the morning here in Ohio and it is officially 29 degrees. Too cold to go out for a ride. I am very pleased with my boat. Since submitting the photos I did replace the red rub rail with a new red rud rail that I purchased from the forum on this site. It looks FANTASTIC!!!!
As for the red, white and blue Evinrude I knew as soon as I saw it I had to mount it to the back of the Newport!
The Evinrude runs so smooth and quiet!
I have in the plans this summer to fashion a teak rear seat to the rear section of the boat. I will have an additional white seat cushion made for the rear seat to match the front.
Does anybody on the list happen to have an extra 1976-1985 Whaler catalogue with the Newport model in it they would be willing to sell?
Bigshot posted 11-06-2002 02:01 PM ET (US)
Very nice and rare "smirked" 76. The static trim caught me by surprise until I noticed the Doggie's head in the 1st pic. I was starting to think that 70 I have is REALLY heavy.
BillVT posted 08-20-2003 01:41 PM ET (US)
Our Newport was just maybe the best Whaler we ever owned. We traded it for our 3rd Whaler and now we're on our 4th. The comfort provided by the model's features was just the thing when our two kids were young, and with the larger windshields and full canvas (our's was blue dacron) we could keep out of the wind and rain here along the Maine Coast. Who needs the spartan layout of the center-console Montauk?
Our memories of picnics, fishing trips and short and long voyages in this boat are the extra-special kind and if we end up with another boat of this size, it will be another Newport.
jeffs22outrage posted 03-30-2008 10:07 PM ET (US)
Jim,
Since I purchased the from Jeff Holmes back in Dec 2007 I have been slowly working on it. I just repolished all of the metal work on the boat. I am just about finished sanding all of the wood for refinsihing. I am planning of replacing the Evinrude side mount with a Morse MT-2 Control. Adding a peroid correct OMC tilt and trim unit on the outboard, which Dave at Lockemans have offered up, and removing the CmC tilt and trim jackplate. Rewiring the boat and some reapair gelcoat work are the last things for this year. Next year I am going to have the Original 1976 mills cotton tops redone and new seats from Halls.
With all of this work do you have any interest in adding the updated images to this page (cetacea 66)?
jimh posted 04-02-2008 10:03 PM ET (US)
Jeff--You will have to loan me the boat for the weekend so I can photograph it.
:-)
--jimh
jeffs22outrage posted 04-02-2008 10:07 PM ET (US)
That is fine....I will unfortunately have to take the Revenge as a deposit until the boat is returned. I promise it will be refueled.

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Author	Topic: Page 66: Newport, October 29,2002
jimh	posted 10-29-2002 11:32 PM ET (US) Please use this message thread for comments on the beautiful Whaler NEWPORT that is featured in Page 66 of Cetacea.
jimh	posted 10-29-2002 11:34 PM ET (US) Oops--forgot to include a hyperlink to the page. Please see: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage66.html
hauptjm	posted 10-30-2002 11:28 AM ET (US) Great photos of a great boat. That Evinrude looks like it came with the boat. It gives the whole package a perfect "period" look. I think this is a beautiful example of the quality product that used to come out of BW. Funny how those Classic Boston Whalers look so good with kids and dogs; maybe because kids and dogs and Whalers were made for pure fun. Enjoy.
jimh	posted 10-30-2002 12:07 PM ET (US) I was thinking about all the awful fashions that people wore in the 1970's, those polyester suits, the floral print shirts. That stuff looks so out of style today, yet this classic Whaler from 1976 and its Evinrude outboard look completely in-fashion, and perhaps even more fashionable than many of the boats made today. The neutral hues of the hull and canvas are nicely accented with those red and blue trim lines on the rub rail and motor. And how do you get the dog to sit so still?
tabasco	posted 10-30-2002 01:13 PM ET (US) Jim- Another first rate job. I hope my boat looks that good when it's 26 years old.
hauptjm	posted 10-30-2002 02:04 PM ET (US) jimh, regarding your fashion comments: Boats are like clothes, the Classics never go out of style.
hardensheetmetal	posted 10-30-2002 03:30 PM ET (US) Jim- Great article, I owned a Newport from about 1992 to 1997. This boat makes me yurn for summer more than any other Whaler. There used to be a great quote about the Newport, in one of the older Whaler catologs, it went something like " we would be foolish to say thatthe amount of fun went up with the size of a boat" Meaning I guess that you could have just as much fun, if not more in a 17 Newport, as you could in a 22 Outrage. Anyway, great job. Dan
Sam Collins	posted 10-30-2002 03:58 PM ET (US) The 1976 brochure features the Newport on page 14 and the information reads as follows:"The Queen of our 17-foot family boats, Newport features non-skid side and bow decks for easy boarding and provides additional storage space beneath. The low profile bow rail and console rail give security to passengers forward of the console, and the smoked plexiglass windscreen protects them from the wind. "Two padded bucket seats are located just forward ot the console. They are located low in the boat for security and wind protection. They also keep heads low enough so the helmsman, even when sitting, can see forward without obstruction. It's a great place to put the kids where you can keep an eye on them. "The reversible pilot seat has a cushioned backrest and two safety handles. Two fuel tank mats under the seat hold a pair of twelve gallon tanks. An optional 4-man seat is also available. (See page 22 for details.) "Weather protection is afforded by a unique flying top set. The forward shelter zips onto the bow rail, leaving the plexiglass windshield exposed. This allows light to enter the forward cuddy area. The removable windshield gives additional spray protection, and the flying top offers sun protection. "Newport 17 - a racy Whaler with the family in mind." Note: The photos within the 1976 brochure show only Pre-Smirk designed Newport.
11 footer	posted 10-30-2002 04:54 PM ET (US) I just can't get over how [well] the outboard [goes with] the boat. A very nice looking rig! 11
jimh	posted 10-30-2002 10:17 PM ET (US) Thanks for appending that interesting quote from the brochure. Whaler's old catalogue prose is quite entertaining. It's much better than the sentence fragments they use in advertising today.
Marlin	posted 10-31-2002 10:08 AM ET (US) Sentence fragments. Like "A ski boat. Or a party boat." Or "More storage from the bow to the stern." And lots of sentences that start with "And". I think. A sentence should have. All the required. Parts. Of speech.
Taylor	posted 10-31-2002 03:16 PM ET (US) Nice to see the Newport done justice in a Cetecea page. The only one I've really seen before was cruddy by comparison. I wonder if this will help people make up there mind between the Newport and the Montauk. One thing that I noticed is how high that Newport sits at the stern, even with the engine back six inches. In one photo, I think I can see the chine out of water at the stern. Is that a really light engine, or is it just the weight of weimaraner forward, or do Newports sit a little more bow down?
lhg	posted 10-31-2002 04:29 PM ET (US) People have forgotten that those older outboards, 90-140HP, in either OMC V-4 version or Merc I-6 version, only weighed about 275 lbs. That's what a 4-stroke 50 or 60 now weighs. But I would also imagine that a Newport is a little more bow heavy than a Montauk, but not much. It's probably the pooch!
Lewis	posted 10-31-2002 06:08 PM ET (US) Great Page! Q- What is proper flag etiquette?
Taylor	posted 10-31-2002 08:37 PM ET (US) Flag etiquette is something that was very exact about when I was, say, 13. I'm a little more tolerant now, but only a little. Chapmans's is the authority, and that US Power Squadron flag should be flown from the stern staff, in place of a US flag or the Yacht Ensign. Of course I flew the yacht ensign in Canada, so I expect that there is a search warrant out on me now. :) On a whaler, I treat the light pole as the stern staff. http://www.usps.org/f_stuff/etiquett.html#usps-ensign
DaveS	posted 11-01-2002 09:48 PM ET (US) Nice pics of a nice boat. I'm glad I stopped my conversion from the newport to montauk at the console. Now, if only my engine matched as well... Good luck and enjoy... DaveS
boxers	posted 11-03-2002 01:04 AM ET (US) Nice story to complement your excellent choice of whalers. This past summer we trailered our 13ft 40th Anniversary up 900 miles to Walloon Lake, MI. One day we ran across a Newport and we didn't know what model it was. The Newport is a classic as they come. With the period correct engine, canvas and morse controls observers must think they have been transported back the 70s. Outstanding job on your part and a little luck to find such great example. Thanks for sharing it with us.
Jholmes105	posted 11-03-2002 05:51 AM ET (US) WOW! Thank you for all the nice comments on my whaler. It is 5:30 in the morning here in Ohio and it is officially 29 degrees. Too cold to go out for a ride. I am very pleased with my boat. Since submitting the photos I did replace the red rub rail with a new red rud rail that I purchased from the forum on this site. It looks FANTASTIC!!!! As for the red, white and blue Evinrude I knew as soon as I saw it I had to mount it to the back of the Newport! The Evinrude runs so smooth and quiet! I have in the plans this summer to fashion a teak rear seat to the rear section of the boat. I will have an additional white seat cushion made for the rear seat to match the front. Does anybody on the list happen to have an extra 1976-1985 Whaler catalogue with the Newport model in it they would be willing to sell?
Bigshot	posted 11-06-2002 02:01 PM ET (US) Very nice and rare "smirked" 76. The static trim caught me by surprise until I noticed the Doggie's head in the 1st pic. I was starting to think that 70 I have is REALLY heavy.
BillVT	posted 08-20-2003 01:41 PM ET (US) Our Newport was just maybe the best Whaler we ever owned. We traded it for our 3rd Whaler and now we're on our 4th. The comfort provided by the model's features was just the thing when our two kids were young, and with the larger windshields and full canvas (our's was blue dacron) we could keep out of the wind and rain here along the Maine Coast. Who needs the spartan layout of the center-console Montauk? Our memories of picnics, fishing trips and short and long voyages in this boat are the extra-special kind and if we end up with another boat of this size, it will be another Newport.
jeffs22outrage	posted 03-30-2008 10:07 PM ET (US) Jim, Since I purchased the from Jeff Holmes back in Dec 2007 I have been slowly working on it. I just repolished all of the metal work on the boat. I am just about finished sanding all of the wood for refinsihing. I am planning of replacing the Evinrude side mount with a Morse MT-2 Control. Adding a peroid correct OMC tilt and trim unit on the outboard, which Dave at Lockemans have offered up, and removing the CmC tilt and trim jackplate. Rewiring the boat and some reapair gelcoat work are the last things for this year. Next year I am going to have the Original 1976 mills cotton tops redone and new seats from Halls. With all of this work do you have any interest in adding the updated images to this page (cetacea 66)?
jimh	posted 04-02-2008 10:03 PM ET (US) Jeff--You will have to loan me the boat for the weekend so I can photograph it. :-) --jimh
jeffs22outrage	posted 04-02-2008 10:07 PM ET (US) That is fine....I will unfortunately have to take the Revenge as a deposit until the boat is returned. I promise it will be refueled.