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jimh posted 05-25-2003 01:05 PM ET (US)
Please use this message thread exclusively for comments or question regarding the boats shown in Cetacea Page 73

whalersman posted 05-25-2003 04:06 PM ET (US)
Very interesting photos Jimh...[Joe also offered several typographic corrections--thanks!]
DanT posted 05-25-2003 10:18 PM ET (US)
I found the photo of the green Outrage very interesting. Although I never actually saw this boat I did hear of another one located in New Jersey. About a year and a half ago I had a roofing contractor come to my house for an estimate and upon seeing my Eastport in my driveway the discussion turned to Boston Whalers. He told me he recently purchased a used green Outrage from a dealer in New Jersey. According to him the previous owner had it specially ordered. He didn't mention anything about it being made originally for a boat show but then again he may not have known the complete history of it.
DaveH posted 05-27-2003 10:38 AM ET (US)
Jimh:
With regard to unusual factory gel coat colors, four years ago in Daytona's Whaler dealership I saw a brand new, dark Forest Green Montauk with a Desert Tan interior and green bimini. It wasn't unattractive but certainly not my cup of tea. I'll bet there were more color variations than we know about.
hauptjm posted 05-27-2003 01:51 PM ET (US)
Dave, I think the boat you saw was a "Bauer" Edition. I'm kind of foggy on the details, but I think Whaler made a fly-fishing package on the Montauk platform with good-old Eddie's name on it. Maybe it was a dream?
elaelap posted 05-27-2003 02:59 PM ET (US)
Zut alors! The mulch in that old French Nauset looks like it came from the same tree that shed its leaves into my poor old Katama until I helped her escape last October. I could have used my old beauty as a planter had I been so inclined.
A tout a l'heure,
Antoine
DaveH posted 05-27-2003 04:11 PM ET (US)
Hauptjm:
Thank you. You are exactly right! It was indeed, an Eddie Bauer edition. There was nothing unusual about it other than the colors though.
California Whaler posted 05-27-2003 09:44 PM ET (US)
Jimh,
Thank you for the best cetacea yet. My first thought is of a known poster (poser) who thought us classic owners would rollover for a new era Whaler.
When I saw the picture of the Nauset in the barn, I saw a labor of love. The chance to bring a boat of that caliber back to life makes me start thinking about expanding the garage.
I liked the I spy game. You got a little more out of the photo at first glance, but there are alot of details availble. Hopefully prospective Whaler buyers can learn from it.
The red Mischief looks like a blast. No metion of motor HP. A 2-stroke 70 would be pretty cool.
Went boating this weekend, saw five Whalers, two in a yard ready to become someone's project. The ones on the water had the same friendly Whaler owners I've found everywhere. A wink and a wave. They understand.
Kelly
hauptjm posted 05-28-2003 12:28 PM ET (US)
DaveH, I thought the front railings were lowered for fly casting and maybe a casting platform up in the bow. Since, I have never seen one first-hand, I can't be certain.
tbyrne posted 05-29-2003 12:08 PM ET (US)
Bauer or Fenwick (fly fishing gear mfr)??
Chap posted 05-30-2003 09:16 AM ET (US)
Hello,
Fenwick=fishing.
There was a green Fenwick addition of this boat:
www.castaflycharters.com/equipment.html
The railings are Whaler.
Lots of sizzle.
Thanks
Chap
hauptjm posted 05-30-2003 10:55 AM ET (US)
Chap, maybe I confused the two into one homogenous vessel!
jimh posted 05-30-2003 10:33 PM ET (US)
Perhaps the boat (not part of the CETACEA PAGE 73 but apparently of extreme interest) is the 20-Cross Tackle model.
I do have a couple of pictures of one, but unfortunately the green hull is very difficult to see in them. If anyone has a photograph of a Cross Tackle model of Boston Whaler with green gel coat color, please email it to me and I'll add it to this Cetacea page so we can see what everyone is talking about.
Also, don't forget the yellow hull gel coat color that Whaler showed on the 320-Outrage at the Miami Boat Show 2003.
See:
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage71.html#71-09
This makes red, green, aquamarine, yellow, white, and desert tan hull colors seen so far.
hauptjm posted 06-02-2003 12:18 PM ET (US)
jimh, does that mean there was not an Eddie Bauer edition 17 or was Bauer's name attached to the Cross Tackle? I'm not sure where I got that from.
dgp posted 06-02-2003 08:44 PM ET (US)
According to my 1997 catalog both the 17' & 20' Cross Tackle boats were available in the Fenwick Edition: Hunter green hull; Desert tan interior; Tan cushions with green piping; Gold logo and stripes; Fenwick eagle logo; Premium Fenwick saltwater fly rod.
Jim, the picture in the Feature and Options section is so tiny it's probably worthless to you.
hauptjm posted 06-03-2003 03:00 PM ET (US)
The green and tan must have made me remember it as a Bauer instead of Fenwick. Of course, Fenwick makes a helluva lot more sense than Bauer, but then Bauer puts "his" name on everything.
ryanwhaler posted 06-03-2003 04:13 PM ET (US)
I found the Ohio part to be very funny. That picture does not make Joe's boat look very good though. For everyone who has not seen an "after" shot of Joe's 17, the thing is mint.
11
DaveH posted 06-05-2003 12:59 PM ET (US)
dgp:
I pulled my old catalogs out and the boat I was referring to was a Montauk with a Hunter Green gelcoat and Desert Tan interior. The Cross Tackles are based upon the Outrages during that year and you are correct, they are Fenwick Editions. I cannot recall now if the model I saw was Eddie Bauer or Fenwick but the color schemes are the same. The bow railing was not the high, Cross Tackle type. It is not listed in my catalogs as an available option for any year on the Montauk. Possibly it was one-off boat sold through Daytona Beach's dealership to gauge customer reaction or a customer special order that was cancelled.
jimh posted 06-08-2003 01:02 PM ET (US)
Please move further discussion of the Fenwick/Eddie Bauer/Cross Tackle models to the GENERAL forum.
It is really best to limit discussion in the CETACEA COMMENTS to boats that are appearing in the particular pages the thread is linked to.
Thanks for observing this request.
And again, if anyone has good pictures of a Cross Tackle, please send them in.
--jimh
galaxygirl posted 06-13-2003 12:39 AM ET (US)
I love that teal whaler!
If there are any more out there I would love to track one down; it looks like this one is in the hands of a committed owner....
Boo hoo.
Ventura16 posted 06-13-2003 02:28 PM ET (US)
We saw another one of the teal Outrage's in Islamorada in March. It was virtually identical with the one shown in Cetacea, but this one had twin Yamahas, no radome, and no glow-in-the-dark Whaler logo on the side. I've got a couple pictures if anyone wants them.
Tom
dreid posted 06-24-2003 09:00 AM ET (US)
That little Mischief keeps growing on me, and I believe the one on this page 73 is the only example to appear in Cetacea. I'd love to see a few more detailed photos of this model, especially of the white or Desert Tan version.
BillVT posted 09-06-2004 10:18 PM ET (US)
Green Whalers are nice, but that Red Mischief 15 is absolutely pristine and certainly the hot roadster of the classics. The owner should just keep it out of the sun and it will be a rare collectable! The seating is so comfortable and they're a joy to ride in.
I wish my red '89 hull looked half as good. The dark gelcoats were never practical. I compounded and buffed and polished my topsides last year, to find that the gelcoat had unevenly darkened & changed color underneath. Some manufacturers today make new boats in anycolor gelcoat and just polyurethane them to the owner's specs after molding. Knowing this perhaps, some previous (original?) owner had sprayed the horizontal surfaces of mine with clear polyurethane once. A good job (preserved that intense original red), but now its peeling off in places and I'm faced with having to strip it and re-shoot it in red poly to get it back the right way.
I'll have to get in touch with the owner of Page 73's Mischief to see if we can come up with some more history--we seem to have a lot of curious historians here! --Bill
89mischiefwhaler posted 08-12-2005 10:12 PM ET (US)
that red whaler is gorgeous, unfortunately my mischief wasn't covered so there is a bit of oxidation occuring, anyone have any remedies to get it looking like its brand new again???
alfa posted 08-31-2006 10:17 AM ET (US)
Refering to the hulls in the french barn, and particularly the BW 16' hull, the legend says : "From the large ID numbers on the hullsides, I suspect that this 41-year-old 16-foot hull may have previously been in commercial service."
No, the prefix "CC" simply means this boat is registered at Concarneau... (french harbor)
Alain

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Author	Topic: Page 73: Pictures and Their Stories; May 25, 2003
jimh	posted 05-25-2003 01:05 PM ET (US) Please use this message thread exclusively for comments or question regarding the boats shown in Cetacea Page 73
whalersman	posted 05-25-2003 04:06 PM ET (US) Very interesting photos Jimh...[Joe also offered several typographic corrections--thanks!]
DanT	posted 05-25-2003 10:18 PM ET (US) I found the photo of the green Outrage very interesting. Although I never actually saw this boat I did hear of another one located in New Jersey. About a year and a half ago I had a roofing contractor come to my house for an estimate and upon seeing my Eastport in my driveway the discussion turned to Boston Whalers. He told me he recently purchased a used green Outrage from a dealer in New Jersey. According to him the previous owner had it specially ordered. He didn't mention anything about it being made originally for a boat show but then again he may not have known the complete history of it.
DaveH	posted 05-27-2003 10:38 AM ET (US) Jimh: With regard to unusual factory gel coat colors, four years ago in Daytona's Whaler dealership I saw a brand new, dark Forest Green Montauk with a Desert Tan interior and green bimini. It wasn't unattractive but certainly not my cup of tea. I'll bet there were more color variations than we know about.
hauptjm	posted 05-27-2003 01:51 PM ET (US) Dave, I think the boat you saw was a "Bauer" Edition. I'm kind of foggy on the details, but I think Whaler made a fly-fishing package on the Montauk platform with good-old Eddie's name on it. Maybe it was a dream?
elaelap	posted 05-27-2003 02:59 PM ET (US) Zut alors! The mulch in that old French Nauset looks like it came from the same tree that shed its leaves into my poor old Katama until I helped her escape last October. I could have used my old beauty as a planter had I been so inclined. A tout a l'heure, Antoine
DaveH	posted 05-27-2003 04:11 PM ET (US) Hauptjm: Thank you. You are exactly right! It was indeed, an Eddie Bauer edition. There was nothing unusual about it other than the colors though.
California Whaler	posted 05-27-2003 09:44 PM ET (US) Jimh, Thank you for the best cetacea yet. My first thought is of a known poster (poser) who thought us classic owners would rollover for a new era Whaler. When I saw the picture of the Nauset in the barn, I saw a labor of love. The chance to bring a boat of that caliber back to life makes me start thinking about expanding the garage. I liked the I spy game. You got a little more out of the photo at first glance, but there are alot of details availble. Hopefully prospective Whaler buyers can learn from it. The red Mischief looks like a blast. No metion of motor HP. A 2-stroke 70 would be pretty cool. Went boating this weekend, saw five Whalers, two in a yard ready to become someone's project. The ones on the water had the same friendly Whaler owners I've found everywhere. A wink and a wave. They understand. Kelly
hauptjm	posted 05-28-2003 12:28 PM ET (US) DaveH, I thought the front railings were lowered for fly casting and maybe a casting platform up in the bow. Since, I have never seen one first-hand, I can't be certain.
tbyrne	posted 05-29-2003 12:08 PM ET (US) Bauer or Fenwick (fly fishing gear mfr)??
Chap	posted 05-30-2003 09:16 AM ET (US) Hello, Fenwick=fishing. There was a green Fenwick addition of this boat: www.castaflycharters.com/equipment.html The railings are Whaler. Lots of sizzle. Thanks Chap
hauptjm	posted 05-30-2003 10:55 AM ET (US) Chap, maybe I confused the two into one homogenous vessel!
jimh	posted 05-30-2003 10:33 PM ET (US) Perhaps the boat (not part of the CETACEA PAGE 73 but apparently of extreme interest) is the 20-Cross Tackle model. I do have a couple of pictures of one, but unfortunately the green hull is very difficult to see in them. If anyone has a photograph of a Cross Tackle model of Boston Whaler with green gel coat color, please email it to me and I'll add it to this Cetacea page so we can see what everyone is talking about. Also, don't forget the yellow hull gel coat color that Whaler showed on the 320-Outrage at the Miami Boat Show 2003. See: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage71.html#71-09 This makes red, green, aquamarine, yellow, white, and desert tan hull colors seen so far.
hauptjm	posted 06-02-2003 12:18 PM ET (US) jimh, does that mean there was not an Eddie Bauer edition 17 or was Bauer's name attached to the Cross Tackle? I'm not sure where I got that from.
dgp	posted 06-02-2003 08:44 PM ET (US) According to my 1997 catalog both the 17' & 20' Cross Tackle boats were available in the Fenwick Edition: Hunter green hull; Desert tan interior; Tan cushions with green piping; Gold logo and stripes; Fenwick eagle logo; Premium Fenwick saltwater fly rod. Jim, the picture in the Feature and Options section is so tiny it's probably worthless to you.
hauptjm	posted 06-03-2003 03:00 PM ET (US) The green and tan must have made me remember it as a Bauer instead of Fenwick. Of course, Fenwick makes a helluva lot more sense than Bauer, but then Bauer puts "his" name on everything.
ryanwhaler	posted 06-03-2003 04:13 PM ET (US) I found the Ohio part to be very funny. That picture does not make Joe's boat look very good though. For everyone who has not seen an "after" shot of Joe's 17, the thing is mint. 11
DaveH	posted 06-05-2003 12:59 PM ET (US) dgp: I pulled my old catalogs out and the boat I was referring to was a Montauk with a Hunter Green gelcoat and Desert Tan interior. The Cross Tackles are based upon the Outrages during that year and you are correct, they are Fenwick Editions. I cannot recall now if the model I saw was Eddie Bauer or Fenwick but the color schemes are the same. The bow railing was not the high, Cross Tackle type. It is not listed in my catalogs as an available option for any year on the Montauk. Possibly it was one-off boat sold through Daytona Beach's dealership to gauge customer reaction or a customer special order that was cancelled.
jimh	posted 06-08-2003 01:02 PM ET (US) Please move further discussion of the Fenwick/Eddie Bauer/Cross Tackle models to the GENERAL forum. It is really best to limit discussion in the CETACEA COMMENTS to boats that are appearing in the particular pages the thread is linked to. Thanks for observing this request. And again, if anyone has good pictures of a Cross Tackle, please send them in. --jimh
galaxygirl	posted 06-13-2003 12:39 AM ET (US) I love that teal whaler! If there are any more out there I would love to track one down; it looks like this one is in the hands of a committed owner.... Boo hoo.
Ventura16	posted 06-13-2003 02:28 PM ET (US) We saw another one of the teal Outrage's in Islamorada in March. It was virtually identical with the one shown in Cetacea, but this one had twin Yamahas, no radome, and no glow-in-the-dark Whaler logo on the side. I've got a couple pictures if anyone wants them. Tom
dreid	posted 06-24-2003 09:00 AM ET (US) That little Mischief keeps growing on me, and I believe the one on this page 73 is the only example to appear in Cetacea. I'd love to see a few more detailed photos of this model, especially of the white or Desert Tan version.
BillVT	posted 09-06-2004 10:18 PM ET (US) Green Whalers are nice, but that Red Mischief 15 is absolutely pristine and certainly the hot roadster of the classics. The owner should just keep it out of the sun and it will be a rare collectable! The seating is so comfortable and they're a joy to ride in. I wish my red '89 hull looked half as good. The dark gelcoats were never practical. I compounded and buffed and polished my topsides last year, to find that the gelcoat had unevenly darkened & changed color underneath. Some manufacturers today make new boats in anycolor gelcoat and just polyurethane them to the owner's specs after molding. Knowing this perhaps, some previous (original?) owner had sprayed the horizontal surfaces of mine with clear polyurethane once. A good job (preserved that intense original red), but now its peeling off in places and I'm faced with having to strip it and re-shoot it in red poly to get it back the right way. I'll have to get in touch with the owner of Page 73's Mischief to see if we can come up with some more history--we seem to have a lot of curious historians here! --Bill
89mischiefwhaler	posted 08-12-2005 10:12 PM ET (US) that red whaler is gorgeous, unfortunately my mischief wasn't covered so there is a bit of oxidation occuring, anyone have any remedies to get it looking like its brand new again???
alfa	posted 08-31-2006 10:17 AM ET (US) Refering to the hulls in the french barn, and particularly the BW 16' hull, the legend says : "From the large ID numbers on the hullsides, I suspect that this 41-year-old 16-foot hull may have previously been in commercial service." No, the prefix "CC" simply means this boat is registered at Concarneau... (french harbor) Alain