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TIN BOAT posted 09-29-2006 08:32 AM ET (US)   Profile for TIN BOAT   Send Email to TIN BOAT  
I want to install a GPS/Sounder on the console of my 1989 18' Outrage.The GPS would only be used on those rare occassions when I'm caught in the fog.The most important features will be the fishfinder/depth sounder, speed and water temp. I presently have a Humminbird 300TX finder and a Lowrance handheld GPS. This is a satisfactory combo, but the Humminbird is busted and needs to be replaced. Any suggestions about the best unit would be appreciated. Thank you.
Chuck Tribolet posted 09-29-2006 09:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
Use the GPS everytime you go out. That way when the fog
does clamp down, you aren't trying to figure out the GPS, and
you KNOW your routes work.


Chuck

Buckda posted 09-29-2006 10:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
I've been very happy with my garmin GPSMap 168 Sounder. I know that it is now a discontinued model, but whatever they're using to replace it should be fine. This unit has enough capabilities to do both the tasks you are speaking of - I have used it to navigate more than 2,500 miles via the GPS (using the bluecharts software) and catch thousands of fish.
PeteB88 posted 09-29-2006 12:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for PeteB88  Send Email to PeteB88     
I wanna catch thousands of fish.
Royboy posted 09-29-2006 01:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Royboy  Send Email to Royboy     
I can tell you what NOT to get: the NAVMAN 4380. See http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001086.html

I'm not what anyone would describe as technologically challenged but I can't get acceptable performance out of this unit.

Roy

davej14 posted 09-29-2006 05:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for davej14  Send Email to davej14     
I have been happy with the Lowrance LMS332C. This is the unit with the external GPS antenna. Do not get the unit with the internal antenna because the reception is very poor (I had to exchange it for the external unit). I recommend mounting the antenna on the top rail for best reception. When positioned behind the Plexiglas windshield the reception is diminished. I also mounted the display to a RAM mount which allows great flexibility in optimizing the position for standing or sitting. You will also probably want to add the Navionics charts for your area. Here are some pics:

http://www.bobdean.com/images/djpics/D14-GPS-Antenna-Mount.jpg

http://www.bobdean.com/images/djpics/D14-Console.jpg

cwolf posted 09-30-2006 01:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for cwolf  Send Email to cwolf     
I second the Garmin 168 Sounder. That really turned out to a great all around b&w model. Best of both worlds. Mine also has the external GPS antenna so I can keep the screen inside electronics box. The new Garmin color versions should perform equally as well but the screens seem smaller. Bluecharts software is a must so you have factor in that cost. You can use that software on two devices (i.e your next Garmin or your backup handheld Garmin)
TIN BOAT posted 09-30-2006 06:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for TIN BOAT  Send Email to TIN BOAT     
Thanks for your input. I think the new version of the Garmin 168 must be the 178c, which looks as though it will fit on my console and do everything I need.
wwbach posted 10-02-2006 11:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for wwbach  Send Email to wwbach     
I have the Lowrance LMS334c iGPS. After an inital problem with the GPS reciever/internal antenna that resulted in a return to the factory for a new unit, I am very happy with it. It is great to have the color if nothing else, for the coolness factor. The finder has been great although I;ve not been beyond about 130' this season. Hopefully at least one more trip this year!

"and catch thousands of fish"
Dave, We need to link up so you can teach me a few things!

-- Bud

btb posted 10-07-2006 11:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for btb  Send Email to btb     
For what its worth, I have a Garmin 276C GPS and I really like it. If you get a Garmin sounder, you can link the two so the GPS can use the depth info as well.
kingfish posted 10-07-2006 11:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
If I were a betting man, I'd be betting Dave's "thousands of fish" was a bit of an unintended hyperbole (just made that up - he's not old enough to be having senior moments), that he may be having to live down for a while...

John

KillerWhaler62 posted 10-13-2006 06:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for KillerWhaler62  Send Email to KillerWhaler62     
We put a Gramin 498C on our Nauset this spring and have got great preformance out of both the GPS/plotter and the sounder/fish finder. Check GSPONSALE or CHUMBO for best prices and shipping.
stagalv posted 10-15-2006 07:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for stagalv  Send Email to stagalv     
Question for Y'all. How is the reception on these GPS units with the built in antenna? I just bought a Garmin 178C(internal ant.) and plan to put it on a '95 17' Dauntless (dual console) so it will be at the helm area and the antenna will have to see up through the glass windshield.

Any problems for these units to look up through glass and a bimini top?

Thanks,

Buckda posted 10-15-2006 07:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
The only time I've had noticeable problems with my unit is when running very close to high rock walls, and when I was in the Chicago River between the towering skyscrapers that blocked the sky.

Otherwise, no problems through full canvas and with an arch up there.

Dave

Roarque posted 10-17-2006 12:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Roarque  Send Email to Roarque     
TIN BOAT if you like the Lowrance you now have then the LMS 339 cdf unit is a very nice solution for the open Outrage 18.

Contrary to comments above, I have used the internal antenna on the 339 with good success for one fishing season and found it to be reliable and easy to use.

My Outrage 18 does not have a t-top or bimini and I have mounted it on the flat of the center console to starboard of the steering wheel.

Buckda posted 10-17-2006 05:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
I've caught "Tons" of fish. Is that better? :)

I just checked the total miles travelled log on my GPS, I'm at more than 3,700 miles since I bought the unit 4 years ago. That is split between my 18' Outrage and my 15' Sport; so the "thousands of miles" should be taken quite literally.

Frankly, I'm suprised it has been that many miles, but time flies when you're having fun.

Dave

maxferran posted 10-18-2006 01:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for maxferran  Send Email to maxferran     
I didnt think about it before I bought, but I put an internal antenna on my outrage 22 with a ttop and was very suprised when it worked flawlessly and fast, without having to mount a different antenna.
norsman posted 10-23-2006 04:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for norsman  Send Email to norsman     
I recently changed out my Lowrance X70 for a Garmin 498 and I love it. I use the GPS all the time in all conditions and the finder/sounder works well. No complaints at all. I find that I use the GPS for returning to places where the fish were previously a lot.

good luck!

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