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timing posted 03-31-2007 03:00 PM ET (US)   Profile for timing  
For anyone considering a new GPS, chart plotter, and fish finder combo, one of the best values at this moment is Garmin's 498C. It's a 2006 model with unbelievable blowout pricing as the new 2007 replacement models arrive this month. The GPS side of this unit includes detailed G2 charts, so no additional chip to buy. Although I already had a gray scale Garmin GPS that worked well, I couldn't pass on the blowout pricing and purchased the GPS only 492C model for color/functionality upgrade.

http://www.boatersland.com/gpsmap498.html

blackdog54 posted 04-02-2007 10:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog54  Send Email to blackdog54     
WOW! I bought my Garmin 498 with internal antannae about 2 mos. ago for $599 and thought that was a steal. For anyone considering a new GPS, I am quite pleased with the 498. At the price listed here, $465, they are giving it away.

Original list price was $999.

gcl posted 04-02-2007 10:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for gcl    
Does the $495 price include the transducer ?
timing posted 04-02-2007 08:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for timing    
For the 498C - $465 for internal antenna model, and that price includes a transom mount transducer.
If you need the model with an external antenna, just add $30.

blackdog54 posted 04-03-2007 10:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog54  Send Email to blackdog54     
There are 3 transducer options:

1) A $70 model, basic transducer functions. The unit is larger than most transducers
2) A $130 model, adds true water speed (paddle wheel) function. Unit even larger still.
3) A $400-500+ for side scan sonar (I only vaguely recollect this, it was outside of what I was able to spend, but the demo images were amazing-I also don't remember if this was for the 492 or the 498).

I got the $70 model and it does not display a single fish, toherwise seems to work well. I have got to spend more time in the owners manual to figure out if I have some basic set up function set wrong.

Chuck Tribolet posted 04-03-2007 01:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
Actually, there are 20 transducer options, from $63.64 list
price to $1399.98 for the 498. I see no mention of sidescan.

The 492 is a chartplotter only.


Chuck

Newtauk1 posted 04-03-2007 05:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1    
So what is the best tranducer for a Montauk with this unit?
Chuck Tribolet posted 04-03-2007 08:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
Salt water or fresh?
How deep?
What kind of fish?


Chuck

Newtauk1 posted 04-03-2007 08:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1    
Salt water. 0-80 feet. Bass, Cod, Blues.
blackdog54 posted 04-05-2007 10:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog54  Send Email to blackdog54     
Sorry Chuck, you may be correct on the # of options. West Marine carries 3 Garmin-specific transducer options for the 498, in the store. There may be more online.

There is a $500-$900 (can't remember the price as I was not going to spend it) option to add side scan sonar to the 498, again according to the "electronics expert" @ my West Marine. They had it on display.

I was worried about a rooster tail from the transducer that I got, which was one of the smaller ones, but am not experiencing any problems. I am NOT SEEING FISH on the sonar display but have not looked at my set up options yet to see if I accidentally changed a pre-set.

Newtauk1 posted 04-06-2007 02:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1    
blackdog,

What transducer did you go with? The unit came with an external transducer, correct?

blackdog54 posted 04-06-2007 10:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog54  Send Email to blackdog54     
Newtauk-

I am not sure what you are asking. All transducers are "external" and they are either through-hull or transom mounted, as far as I know.

The unit comes with the option of "internal" vs "external" antennae, for the GPS signal. I got internal, as I do not have a cabin or hardtop that would interfere with the signal AND I have a Montauk, where console space is cherished. I keep it on a trailer covered. I did not want an external antannae that might be a problem every time I put the cover on or took it off.

I got the Garmin transducer that is transom mounted. I did not drill through the transom to install, rather, ran it over the transom, through the tunnel, to the console.

It is considered, at least by West Marine, as the "basic" transducer, meaning it does not measure water current/speed with a paddle wheel. It measures satellite based speed estimates, which was fine for my purpose. If you were putting it on a sailboat, you would want the paddle wheel I think. Mine was about $70.

Chuck Tribolet andn others may be able to provide greater detail about the various alternate models.

Newtauk1 posted 04-06-2007 11:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1    
BD,

And that transom mounted transducer would be... what model and /or model number?

A through hull transducer (in Hull, such as Garmin 2kW R199 In-Hull Transducer with Mounting Tank for GSD 22 ) vs a transom mounted transducer (external).

Bottom... what MODEL NUMBER transducer did you go with?

Sorry to have confused you with the term internal perhaps In-Hull versus transom mounted would be more clear.

I tried calling Garmin today because I want to purchase either the 498C or one of the new 400 series and thought they would suggest the best transducer (transon mounted) for my specific set up and usage. They were closed for Good Friday. Will have to wait until Monday for Garmin.


Thanks.

blackdog54 posted 04-09-2007 01:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog54  Send Email to blackdog54     
Newtauk-

Transducer info is in my garage, will check in the morning for the model #.

I was told that through-hull transducers can not be used in Whalers due to their construction and that transom mounted are the only option for Whaler folk.

Will shoot you an email with the transducer info.

Newtauk1 posted 04-09-2007 11:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1    
Thanks. Will try Garmin today too. I was not trying to imply that a in-hull trasducer was an option for a 17' Whaler hull.

Some of the larger models yes as Whaler molds them with a void in the hull for in-hull transducers

blackdog54 posted 04-10-2007 11:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog54  Send Email to blackdog54     
Newtauk-

OK, there is NO MODEL # on the packaging with the transducer. The install instructions call it model # 190-00227-00. Garmin's site does not pull that model # up. Typical. This is a Garmin product. Garmin usually keeps product info on discontinued products and this is a brand new transducer.

There are 2 probabilities:

http://shop.garmin.com/accessory.jsp?sku=010%2D10249%2D00

and

http://shop.garmin.com/accessory.jsp?sku=010%2D10272%2D00

I just eye-balled the transducer and it provides no greater information. One has a slightly wider cone angle.

Good luck.

Peter posted 04-10-2007 11:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
I believe that the default transducer for the 498c is the 50/200 KHz dual frequency transducer with temperature sensor (no paddle wheel for speed input). That is what came with my 498c.

The unit will not display the fish icons unless the feature is turned ON. The default setting from the factory is OFF.

Newtauk1 posted 04-10-2007 11:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1    
Thanks All.
blackdog54 posted 04-10-2007 11:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog54  Send Email to blackdog54     
Peter-

Thanks for the explanation on the fish finder settings! Our deal at West Marine did not include a transducer, the only difference I can find between the two I referenced is the cone angle.

Newtauk-

I think you will be quite happy with the 498, good luck!

Newtauk1 posted 04-11-2007 02:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1    
Thanks again all.
Peter posted 04-11-2007 10:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
There are two transducers referenced in the manual -- 1) Dual Beam and 2) Dual Frequency. It looks like they generally marry the dual beam with the inland 398c and the dual frequency with the coastal 498c with the expectation that the coastal 498c sonar will be used to look at greater depths.

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