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1985 Outrage 22 posted 12-18-2007 01:11 PM ET (US)   Profile for 1985 Outrage 22  
I am looking to replace the [helm console small electrical] panels on my 1985 Outrage 22. They are the two panels directly beneath the stearing wheel, measuring 8" x 3-3/4" each. I have spoken to the Ultra-Panel marine folks and they say they can custom make these. Does anyone know where else you can buy the original parts? If not, can any shop make these or have people used the UPM folks before.
dino54904 posted 12-18-2007 01:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for dino54904  Send Email to dino54904     
Did you check with sue at Twin Cities Marine? I bought some new panels from her for my Montauk about a year ago.

www.twincitiesmarine.com


1985 Outrage 22 posted 12-18-2007 02:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for 1985 Outrage 22    
What year is your Montauk? Are the panels the same as the old boston Whalers? I have 2 side by side panels. I'll check out their website, thanks for the help.
DeeVee posted 12-18-2007 04:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for DeeVee  Send Email to DeeVee     
The panels Twin Cities has are not exactly the same as the originals. The pin stripe does not radius away from the screws at the corner. The pin stripe is radiused out and is pretty close to the screw counter sink. Otherwise, I think they are real nice looking panels.

All in all, if one was to replace all of them, I think they would like fine. It might look kind of funny if you were to only replace one.

Doug

1985 Outrage 22 posted 12-18-2007 05:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for 1985 Outrage 22    
Doug thanks for the help. I'm looking to replace both so they should match. Do the sizes match the holes from the existing panels? Also, any guess at a price for the 2?
1985 Outrage 22 posted 12-18-2007 05:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for 1985 Outrage 22    
I just spoke to Sue at Twin Cities. She said that they do not have the panels that I am looking for but referred me to Ultra Panel Marine in Florida. I guess I will give them a shot since they seem to be the only ones who will make them.
Casco Bay Outrage posted 12-18-2007 07:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Casco Bay Outrage  Send Email to Casco Bay Outrage     
Check with Joe Kriz. jkriz@sisqtel.net

While I could be wrong, I recall him selling some of these he had.

DeeVee posted 12-18-2007 10:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for DeeVee  Send Email to DeeVee     
Sorry about the bum information. I inquired about the panels on each side of the helm. I assumed that the panels below the helm were available also.

Doug

ratherwhalering posted 12-19-2007 04:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for ratherwhalering  Send Email to ratherwhalering     
No, the holes do not allign with the older style panels, but are very close. This is actually a hassle because you may have to fill and drill. I sugguest if you are replacing the older "radius" style panels with newer style straight edge panels, instead of using flat head wood screws, you drill through the console and use flat head machine screws with a flatwasher and nylock nut (securing the bitter end) inside the console.

1985 Outrage 22 posted 12-22-2007 12:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for 1985 Outrage 22    
Thanks for the help everyone. The info from Ultra Marine is that if you send them pictures and details they will pretty much make them for you. They no longer have them in stock but will machine them to your specifications. They will even install switches if you desire. I guess the ones from Twin Cities were actually purchased by them from Ultra Marine.
efduffer posted 12-23-2007 02:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for efduffer  Send Email to efduffer     
If you have the originals, why not take them to a local sheet metal shop and have them duplicated? 14 or 16 ga aluminum should work, or even stainless if you want.

Tapping holes should be easy after that and you can specify how many, spacing, etc if the original pattern isn't suited to your needs. I'm thinking of re-doing mine again now to utilize individual breakers instead of AGC fuse holders. Or leaving those out entirely and going with a Blue Sea fuse block in the console and not having blank or plugged holes on the panel.

Then experiment with paint finishes. I ended up with black wrinkle paint. I decided I didn't need the outer stripe. More trouble than it was worth.

jimh posted 12-23-2007 11:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
If the helm small electrical panels are rectangular, and if the holes in the panel are circular, it should be easy to fabricate the panels yourself. When you buy aluminum sheet it is often possible for a modest additional cost to have it cut on a shear to the required size. In my area you can buy small amounts of aluminum sheet and have it cut to size at several specialty suppliers who have a walk-up business model, particularly on Saturday mornings.

To make circular openings in the panel a regular twist drill or hole saw be used.
Panels which require rectangular cut-out's are harder to fabricate. If the panel is not too thick you can sometimes use a punch. If no punch is available for a particular opening, a small tool called a Nibbler can be used to create holes. Or careful use of a file can allow creation of rectangular holes

Most of the components which mount in a small electrical panel include a flange which will cover the opening. This tends to conceal minor flaws in the opening, which can be to the great advantage of the amateur panel maker.

Aluminum can be easily cut, filed, and shaped with simple tools. A few files and some sandpaper will often all be sufficient to finish a panel. Aluminum is easy to paint, too. Most panels are painted black, so color matching is not much of a concern. Automotive pinstripe tape can be used to apply a white border trim on the escutcheon if desired.

I do not think these panels are off-the-shelf items. They were custom made for Boston Whaler. So you probably cannot walk into a marine store and find them on the shelf.

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