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Austin Whaler posted 03-11-2009 09:28 PM ET (US)   Profile for Austin Whaler   Send Email to Austin Whaler  
I have been drawing small wiring diagrams on printer paper and other scrap paper, but i was wondering if any one could tell me how the diagrams such as the ones in the reference section were created on the computer. I need to make some nice diagrams and all hand drawn diagrams are to messy. I
Austin Whaler posted 03-11-2009 09:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Austin Whaler  Send Email to Austin Whaler     
sorry it posted to early

i have a 19 ft 73' outrage that has no electrical system so i need to design one and was planing on having it reviewed by others on the site.

Phil T posted 03-12-2009 07:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for Phil T  Send Email to Phil T     
Austin -

One easy way is to draw a diagram on 8x11 paper in pen. Make all the changes, corrections etc, then take a photo of it and then post the photo. I tried drawing on a computer but it took alot longer.

Austin Whaler posted 03-12-2009 09:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for Austin Whaler  Send Email to Austin Whaler     
i have drawn a few of my diagrams on a 8 by 11 sheet of paper but they never look as professional as i would like. that is what i will have to do from what it looks like thats what i am goging to have to do. Thanks phil.

if anyone knows of a free software for wiring diagrams please let me know.

seabob4 posted 03-12-2009 10:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for seabob4  Send Email to seabob4     
You can actually do basic diagrams on Excel, or OpenOffice Spreadsheet (if you're on a Mac) that will suffice, and actually be interpretable. I've did the Pro-Lite accessory harness schematic that way and emailed it to our vendor, which they then put on CAD.
seabob4 posted 03-12-2009 10:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for seabob4  Send Email to seabob4     
"I did the Pro-Lite accessory harness...".

God, I hate the "no edit", or lack thereof, feature of this site!...but I love this site!

Anyway, you can do some cool stuff just using Excel. I can do basic CAD, but it seems to take a lot longer. I just want to get my point across.

Newtauk1 posted 03-12-2009 11:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1  Send Email to Newtauk1     
Can 8 1/2x11" paper be used? :)
seabob4 posted 03-13-2009 09:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for seabob4  Send Email to seabob4     
Newtauk,
Could be risky...
jimh posted 03-16-2009 08:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
The wiring diagrams in the REFERENCE section that I created were made using a simple paint program. I created the various electrical schematic symbols or primitives myself.
L H G posted 03-18-2009 12:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for L H G    
I just completed a new electrical system for a 1975 Outrage 19, and removed the factory original configuration which was not adequate for my intentions, which included new full engine instrumentation.

If you want to replace the simple factory original configuration, I have this for sale:

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/017399.html

If you want a more complex modern system, I have the drawing set that I used for a new system for my 1971 Ribside 21 Outrage. With a few minor changes, this is the same system I installed on my 19, and used the same drawings. In both I kept the classic Cole-Hersey push-pull switches and the single battery in the Whaler designated stern location.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v429/lgoltz/Outrage%2019/?action=view& current=Scan0007.jpg .

Jerry Townsend posted 03-19-2009 02:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
One can google "CAD" - and see many CAD (Computer Aided Desigh) programs, many which are free. I have not tried any of these - but that is one possibility.

Personally, as I am a retired engineer - I use, well older stuff - like Fortran, Linux, DOS, AutoCad and Generic Cad (which was a basic CAD program years ago and operated on DOS).

But, check into some of the web listed CAD programs - there should be one that you can effectively used. --- Jerry/Idaho

Landlocked posted 03-19-2009 03:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Landlocked  Send Email to Landlocked     
There are a million options. Paint or even Powerpoint would work. Even better though, check out Turbo-Cad. It is a fairly robust "home owner" version of Cad. I bought a copy several years ago for a remodel. I seem to remember a fairly extensive electrical library built in.

I've not used it in years and remember there was a fairly stiff learning curve compared to other consumer software programs, but it also does a lot more than most.

Landlocked posted 03-19-2009 03:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for Landlocked  Send Email to Landlocked     
Another option,

Do it like I do my work. Sketch out what you want and take it to a cadd operator to copy. I'm betting you could find a place like CCadd in your area that could Render you drawings for a fairly economical price.

Ll.

jimh posted 03-19-2009 08:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I have been inclined lately to make a pencil sketch and scan it. It is much faster than fiddling around with a drawing or painting program.

As for CAD programs, the worst possible choice is AUTOCAD. We have AUTOCAD at work, and I once spent a week--literally--making a drawing I could have done on my old drafting table with a VEMCO machine and a symbol tracing overlay in five minutes. Someone once said that AUTOCAD was overkill for electrical schematics. A wonk replied that AUTOCAD was overkill for the Space Shuttle design.

crabby posted 03-19-2009 08:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for crabby  Send Email to crabby     
Try Google SketchUp. Free and easy to get started on; includes a big user community.
Landlocked posted 03-19-2009 11:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Landlocked  Send Email to Landlocked     
If you think Autocad is bad - Try Microstation!


I've heard good things about Sketchup and Sketchup pro. Haven't tried it myself though.

Any of the CAD programs are going to require a significant amount of time committment to learn. I think you'd be amazed at what you can accomplish with paint or powerpoint. We have an engineer at work that refuses to use Cadd. When he needs to create a figure - he uses paint. I think he once put together almost an entire landfill permitting package that way.
Ll.

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