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bluewaterpirate posted 01-08-2010 01:50 PM ET (US)   Profile for bluewaterpirate   Send Email to bluewaterpirate  
[The new GARMIN 700 chart plotter with GPS receiver and SONAR is a] nice addition that fills the void [Garmin] had in the seven-inch screen instrument market. It has an internal 1-kW SONAR, NEMA-0183 and NMEA-2000 certified, RADAR port, [but it is] not compatible [to be connected via the Garmin proprietary network to other devices from Garmin]. It has a touch screen.

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Olathe, Kan./January 7, 2010/Business Wire

Garmin International Inc., a unit of Garmin Ltd. (NASDAQ: GRMN), the global leader in satellite navigation, today announced the GPSMAP® 700 series--the first touchscreen controlled stand-alone marine chartplotters with RADAR capability and built-in SONAR at an affordable price that’s easy to justify for any boat or budget. The GPSMAP 700 series was announced in conjunction with the Tullet Prebon London International Boat Show, January 8-17, 2010, and will then tour internationally at the Düsseldorf, Seattle, Atlantic City and Miami Boat Shows in the coming months.

“Our touchscreen technology is recognized throughout the industry for its performance and ease of use, and we’re excited to further expand our product line with these new panoramic displays,” said Dan Bartel, Garmin’s vice president of worldwide sales. “In a class of their own, these products offer a whole new perspective on fingertip navigation and bridge the gap between the entry-level boater and the luxury yacht customer.”

The GPSMAP 740 comes preloaded with detailed offshore maps for all U.S. coastal areas, including Alaska and Hawaii and Explorer Charts® data of the Bahamas. Garmin also introduced the GPSMAP 720, which shares the same advanced features and is designed for markets outside the United States. For sonar capability, Garmin also offers the GPSMAP 740s and GPSMAP 720s combo models, which feature a built-in 1kW capable SONAR transceiver that can clearly define fish targets and terrain features as far down as 2,000 feet to keep you apprised of what’s happening under the surface.

All of Garmin’s new chartplotters in the GPSMAP 700 series feature a standard RADAR port that lets you connect with any Garmin GMR™ series marine radar for target scanning on your chartplotter screen. Whether you’re adding RADAR now or in the future, you’ll enjoy the convenience of “plug-and-play” installation, as well as the power, range and high-definition targeting of Garmin’s proven RADAR offerings. These units are the first non-network RADAR-capable units offered in Garmin’s marine product line up, and offer the perfect solution for the cost-conscious mariner who wants to take advantage of RADAR capabilities without the network price. In addition, these new units offer full NMEA 2000 connectivity and make it easy to monitor engine, fuel, autopilot, weather and other onboard sensor data via the chartplotter.
Like the other Garmin touchscreen marine products, these units feature a sophisticated and elegant “flat-screen” physical design that complements today’s modern boats. Boasting a sleek 7-inch super-bright, waterproof (IPX7 standards) touchscreen display, the GPSMAP 700 series offers unprecedented extremes of brightness for daytime readability with super low-level dimming for optimum night vision. With a built-in high-sensitivity GPS receiver, these new chartplotters are the perfect navigation solution for a single station vessel, and with their small footprint, can fit onboard your vessel where other larger units cannot. The built-in GPS receiver provides installation location flexibility, and therefore can also effectively serve as the back-up navigation station on a larger yacht.

For superior situational awareness, mariners can also load the new GPSMAP 700 plotters with an optional BlueChart® g2 Vision® SD card to navigate with a clear moving-map representation of the boat’s position. With BlueChart g2 Vision, mariners can also take advantage of the Auto Guidance feature which suggests the best routes to follow. In addition, g2 Vision features true MarinerEye view above water or a FishEye underwater perspective – both in three dimensions. And for help in navigating tricky harbors and channels – or locating marinas and resorts – g2 Vision cards offer a growing database of aerial reference photos.
The GPSMAP 720 has a manufacturer’s suggested retail price of $1399.99 and the GPSMAP 720s has a MSRP of $1599.99. The GPSMAP 740 is also value priced and has a MSRP of $1499.99, and the GPSMAP 740s has a MSRP of $1699.99. All of Garmin’s new touchscreen chartplotters are expected to be available in April, 2010.

Happy New Year--Tom

SJUAE posted 01-08-2010 03:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE  Send Email to SJUAE     
Tom--I noticed the gap when I was looking at cost deltas between screen sizes. Looks nice.Although with a touch screen the right-hand side of the casing could have been the same or similar width as the left if they arranged the SD slot and inner bits, differently. Sort of spoils they symmetry that was possible with touch screen and avoided that area that now looks like it wants some buttons or was an afterthought.

Regards
Steve

bluewaterpirate posted 01-08-2010 04:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
More information. Here's a new look for the new G2 Vision version that will be released in short order.
Jefecinco posted 01-08-2010 07:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
Not network compatible? That seems unusual. Does that mean it will not interface with a Class D DSC VHF?

Butch

bluewaterpirate posted 01-08-2010 10:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
Not network capable has nothing to do with DSC capability.

In regards to DSC VHF, you can connect the plotter to any standard marine VHF using NMEA 0183 connectivity. If you so choose you can purchase one the new Garmin VHF's. The VHS 100 (NMEA 0183 certified) or the VHF 200/300 series that are both NMEA 0183/2000 certified.

The VHS 200/300 series use embedded NMEA 2000 functionalty when connected to your Garmin chartploter.

When connected via NMEA 2000 your Gamin 200/300 and 500/700/4000/5000/6000/7000 chartplotters series can be interfaced to set up individual calls (i.e. you can initiate DSC calls from your Garmin chartplotter).

As a safety measure you can initate a man-overboard distress call from your radio, your Garmin chartplotter will display the man overboard screen and prompt you to navigate back to the man-overboad symbol. If you have a Garmin autopilot system connected to the your NMEA 2000 backbone, it will prompt you to start a Williamson turn to the man-overboard symbol.

bluewaterpirate posted 01-08-2010 11:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
A better overview of the 700 NMEA 2000 backbone.
Jefecinco posted 01-09-2010 09:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
Tom,

So, what does "not network compatible" mean?

Butch

bluewaterpirate posted 01-09-2010 11:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
Garmin network--the ability to share charts, FF displays with outer MFD's.
SJUAE posted 01-09-2010 12:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE  Send Email to SJUAE     
It means this is a non prefered system should you wish to have multiple GPSMAP 700's as they will only be able to read NMEA 2000 devices on a network and not each other (eg chart data cannot be shared)

This may not be required on a single console set-up but on dual helms it becomes more important.

As you can see from Tom's network image of GPSMAP 700's it seems it mainly a NMEA 2000 device orientated. Although there is probably one NMEA 0183 connection and one for the Garmin GMR series Radar.


Regards
Steve

glen e posted 01-09-2010 01:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
Maybe/Maybe not. We are researching if a port expander can give you network capability thru the RADAR port, which is actually a network port. Garmin is not sure, or at least the [customer service technician] is not sure. However if [the RADAR network port can be expanded to other devices], it would kill the Model-4208 which is the eight-inch network capable unit; there might be some hardware choke on the port. But it is obvious that the unit is made for a single helm that wants to run every conceivable add-on possible these days: XM weather, XM audio, RADAR, and depth sounder. Nice it has 1-kW sounder guts to compete with a Furuno FCV585 1-kW unit.
glen e posted 01-09-2010 01:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
Correction: CUSTOMER service tech above, a nice gent named Gary. And I would assume two [NMEA-0183] ports in [and two NMEA-0183 ports out], but no doubt [the new GARMIN 700] is first and foremost a NMEA-2000 machine, as all will be, going forth in everyone's line.
jimh posted 01-09-2010 03:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
The term "network" has been used in a confusing manner in the discussion.

A small vessel may have a NMEA-2000 network, which is a low-speed serial data communication bus for exchanging NMEA-2000 parameter group data among devices, typically between sensors and displays. The NMEA-2000 network is a standard network with well-known parameters and has been adopted almost universally by marine electronic manufacturers. Devices can interconnect to a NMEA-2000 independent of their brand or maker, as long as they are certified NMEA-2000 devices.

In another context as used above, electronic devices from one particular manufacturer may have the ability to be interconnected to each other to form a network of devices to allow the several devices to be used as a display or as a control device for each other. Such networks are proprietary networks and typically only support devices from the same manufacturer intended to connect specifically to the manufacturer's proprietary network. These networks are typically rather high speed to permit exchange of screen data for display on remote screens. Typically a large multi-function display can be connected to several other instruments which can make use of the display to show their information, such as a SONAR or RADAR device can use the display of a chart plotter. More than one display device can sometimes be used, allowing for a variety of configurations of how information from several instruments can be displayed.

The NMEA-0183 is not a network protocol. It is a serial data connection protocol in which direct device-to-device connection is made in unidirectional serial lines. Small vessels may have fairly elaborate interconnection of devices using many NMDA-0183 serial connections and separate circuits. These are not collectively seen as a network, at least not in the usual sense of a network having a main wiring backbone and central routing.

jimh posted 01-09-2010 03:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
There also seems to be some confusion regarding digital selective calling or DSC. Digital selective calling is radio protocol implemented on VHF Marine Band radios which allows the use of selective calling to a particular radio. DSC is organized by use of marine mobile service identities, MMSI.

VHF Marine Band radios with DSC can also transmit information about their geographic position. A DSC radio can get information about its geographic position from several sources. The operator can manually enter the geographic position into the radio. This is rare. More common is the radio can get information about geographic position from an electronic device, such as a GPS receiver. The connection between a DSC radio and the electronic device which will provide the position information is most commonly accomplished using the NMEA-0183 serial data connection protocol. A very few radios, only very recently announced, can connect to an NMEA-2000 vessel network, and obtain position information that way.

SJUAE posted 01-09-2010 04:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE  Send Email to SJUAE     
Glen--The same crossed my mind that the Garmin proprietary network could be accessed via the port expander attached to the Radar socket on the unit. Like you I suspect it will be restricted some how.

Is the new transucer also NMEA 2000 or a Garmin proprietary ?

Regards
Steve

glen e posted 01-09-2010 05:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
[T]he 700 (figuratively) has the GSD22 inside it. It's as proprietary as any other Garmin product if you use that port. But if you use the NMEA 2000 backbone for a [trans]ducer, any [A]irmar 2000 will work. Not sure that's at 1-kW though. Usually we just use NMEA 2000 [trans]ducers at shallow depths ([frequency =] 235-Hz) and they are not 1-kW. The big dog sounders, DSM300/400, DFF1/3, and GSD22, are still the best way to go for deep drop situations. Rumors abound about a GSD23 coming (1/2/3-kW).
SJUAE posted 01-10-2010 10:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE  Send Email to SJUAE     
Thanks, so the 700's with sounder will have an additional socket on the rear.

Was the GSD22 a Garmin proprietary networked device also, so the socket will not be unlike the radar one and previously could be plugged in to the the port expander.

Regards
Steve

glen e posted 01-10-2010 11:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
yes
Peter posted 02-25-2013 02:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
I have a similar question along the lines of what was discussed three years ago on this thread before the 700 series was actually launched. So I figure I would just tack on.

I recognize that the network port on the 740s has limited functionality -- RADAR only. Query: If I have a Garmin 5208 and a 740S and a Garmin RADAR, can I plug the Radar into one of the 5208 network ports and the 740S into one of the other 5208 network ports and see RADAR images on the 740S?

I'm guessing that the answer is no because the 740S communications protocol expects to talk directly to the RADAR.


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