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glen e posted 02-12-2010 12:32 PM ET (US)   Profile for glen e   Send Email to glen e  
I have photographed all the major chartplotters engine screens so you can see the difference in the new units.

ASIDE: Jim--please feel free to capture these pics and put them here if you desire. [Done.]

LINK


Raymarine E120W


Furuno NN3D


Lowrance HDS-8


Simrad NSE


Garmin 4212

thewayout posted 02-12-2010 12:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for thewayout  Send Email to thewayout     
Excellent post, Glen. We do mostly Garmin installs, and have found that the screens on the 4000 and 5000 series units are non-customizable and seem to be geared towards sterndrive engines. Is this still true?
glen e posted 02-12-2010 12:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
It is, but it will change with the 700 and 6000/7000 software which we all will get. It will be "pick what you want to see", as you can do now with the NMEA 0183 sentences page.

The other thing that is not uniform is some machines, like the Lowrance and the Furuno, just let you see it in a split, and you cannot display full screen. Not a big thing, but different than the others. By far the best fuel data screen is form Garmin. But you can't get engine data in data boxes (in corners of the screens) in any of them as far as I can tell.

thewayout posted 02-12-2010 01:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for thewayout  Send Email to thewayout     
Glen--Have you had any experience with the Murphy Helmview? Fully customizable engine data. They are working on a larger display screen.
glen e posted 02-12-2010 02:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
Yellowfin offers them. Seems "not ready for prime time". The three owner's I know are not ordering them on their new boats now that everyone is going with screens of their own. (Yam & Merc). A bit half baked, hard to calibrate and keeps dropping out of the network. More at Yellowfinonly.com
thewayout posted 02-12-2010 03:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for thewayout  Send Email to thewayout     
quote:
Yellowfin offers them. Seems "not ready for prime time". The three owner's I know are not ordering them on their new boats now that everyone is going with screens of their own. (Yam & Merc). A bit half baked, hard to calibrate and keeps dropping out of the network. More at Yellowfinonly.com

I think if the boat buying market was in a different time or place, they could've done more.

But the environment is just not conducive to it....

glen e posted 02-12-2010 03:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
I got the opinion it just did not work very well.
SJUAE posted 02-12-2010 03:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE  Send Email to SJUAE     
glen--Last time I played with my Lowrance HDS I could get engine info on full screen, you just select that page or you can have it with any combination of split screen using other page options

One of the best features of Lowrance is the engine screen ability to be customized

Not only is there 3 standard templates analogue, digital and bar but you can save your own templates.

Each gauge also has the ability to be customized including size, bezel, caption, text and limits (e.g. 0-35v or 0 - 7000rpm etc) in addition to style digital/analogue

To add engine info or any other data source from the NMEA2000 network in any position on any screen/page you can add data overlays and place the customised gauge and position/size it where you want (e.g. top left corner)

http://www.lowrance.com/Support/Video-Library/MARINE/How-Tos/ LL-HDS-Data-Overlay/

These are all very nice features but take some time to set up just because of the number of options. May be Garmin’s new units will have similar features.

Regards
Steve

glen e posted 02-12-2010 04:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
Just played with an HD-8 - yes, it is very configurable. Like it a lot. I would hope in the future we will be able to mix some things. All makes seem to be starting out with palettes that can be changed instead of a cafeteria-style menu that can be changed. If you are receiving the NMEA 2000 PGN you should be able to configure it. For example, Garmin offers a Bennett trim tab adapter for the PGN, it can display on my GMI 10 but not any of the chart plotters,

It's still being sorted out by everyone I think. Lowrance certainly is in the forefront as they have been messing with NMEA-2000 the longest, IMO.

thewayout posted 02-12-2010 11:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for thewayout  Send Email to thewayout     
Whoa, this is weird...

I tried to name a link via {url=} this afternoon, and BAM!, it's now called "Murphy Helmview"...

Anyway, Glen, the Helmview worked great with twin 150 Etecs a couple of years ago, they were working with Merc on Smartcraft. Don't know if they ever made progress as Ginger McPeak from Murphy was a former Merc employee...you know how that goes...

But she was fun to look at!

SJUAE posted 02-13-2010 02:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE  Send Email to SJUAE     
Glen

Yes the Garmin adapter for Bennett tabs is quite neat and less hassle than fitting Bennetts own version. Good that you note it's only compatible with GMI 10, for now.

http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/catalog.php?vID=197&cID=2

Full screen view of HDS standard engine templates before editing/customisation:

http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww76/SJUAE/Lowrance%20HDS5/ gaugelayouts.jpg

Regards
Steve

glen e posted 02-13-2010 03:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
The Raymarine the Garmin units also have "templates" - my wish (and I expect soon) is a completely blank sheet of canvas so you can just show what you want and where.
SC Joe posted 02-14-2010 04:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for SC Joe  Send Email to SC Joe     
Simrad looks the nicest, IMO.
Waccamaw Whaler posted 02-14-2010 10:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for Waccamaw Whaler  Send Email to Waccamaw Whaler     
Why are 2 fuel gauges shown on the Garmin? Is this a display option or is it intended for 2 seperate tanks.
glen e posted 02-14-2010 11:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
yes-2 tanks....needs option for 4, for the big CC's
glen e posted 02-14-2010 11:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
Garmin is the only one (so far) that offers a complete fuel screen too:

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h307/gersly123/merc%20monitor/fuelscrn.jpg

SJUAE posted 02-14-2010 03:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE  Send Email to SJUAE     
Glen

You have to build a custom screen on the Lowrance for multiple engines/tanks/Trim/water temp/pressure/RPM/Fuel/Flow/Economy/ETC ETC and depending on the number of your NMEA 2000 data sources

Too many in actual fact. I know it does all data for 3 engines and tanks at least. In a mix of the 3 formats supplied in any arrangement you want.

This is the advantage of the customisation on the Lowrance HDS units.

Regards
Steve

L H G posted 02-18-2010 08:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for L H G    
[Changed TOPIC to a new discussion on a Mercury introduction in Miami.]
glen e posted 02-20-2010 06:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for glen e  Send Email to glen e     
[Pointed to prior discussion on Mercury product intro at Miami.]

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