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flax posted 06-21-2011 02:00 AM ET (US)   Profile for flax   Send Email to flax  
I bought a four-inch SMIS gauge kit and would like to install this along side my analog Suzuki gauges. According to information from Suzuki experts, this should possible. However, my engine is 2007 DF250 and has apparently a different cable connector socket which does not accept the connector which comes with the kit.

How can I get my SMIS gauge installed with a 2007 DF 250 Suzuki alongside the analog gauges?

jimh posted 06-21-2011 07:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Please use SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL for this topic. I will move your article there.
jimh posted 06-21-2011 07:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
[Moved to SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL for discussion.]
jimh posted 06-21-2011 07:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
If the OEM wiring devices supplied with your gauge kit are not compatible with the connectors on your engine, it sounds like you will have to improvise your own connections. You may be able to identify the manufacturer of the connector that you have on the engine, then order a suitable mating connector. Or, you may have to fabricate your own adaptor by splicing in a new connector using some OEM wiring accessory as the source of the connector. This may be easier than locating a reseller of the specialized connector.

Often an experienced dealer can be of great assistance. In the world of SUZUKI outboard engine electronics, it seems like most problems of this type are resolved by purchase of accessories from BROWNS POINT MARINE SERVICE.

Try browsing their website of SMIS NMEA-2000 gauge accessories at

http://store.brownspoint.com/search_results.asp?iLevel=2&subcat=105& txtsearchParamCat=23&txtCatName=2

or contact them via email for more assistance. I have read several very long and very confusing on-line discussions on the topic of SMIS gauges, but in the end the problems always seem to be resolved by purchase of the appropriate wiring accessory from BROWNS POINT MARINE SERVICE.

flax posted 06-21-2011 10:20 AM ET (US)     Profile for flax  Send Email to flax     
Many thanks Jim - I will try Brown's point.
jimh posted 06-22-2011 09:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Please let us know in a follow-up posting to this thread if you were able to obtain a remedy to this problem. Thank you.
jimh posted 06-28-2011 10:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Lowrance has published some literature on interconnecting SUZUKI engines to NMEA-2000 networks. See the literature linked below:

http://primus.lowrance.com/icr/NMEA%202000/NMEA2K_engine_info.htm

The SUZUKI-specific information says:

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Suzuki

Suzuki has engine models compatible with NMEA 2000 that can be configured using our head units and gauges. An engine interface cable (EP-20) is required to connect the Suzuki engines into a network. 2008 and later Suzuki engines, excluding the DF 300, will also require the Suzuki K8 adapter. The DF300 models will require a Suzuki DF300 adapter.

Suzuki interface cable (EP-20) and adapter cable part numbers:

• 120-55 Suzuki Eng Intrfce Cbl – RD 10ft

• 120-56 Suzuki Eng Intrfce Cbl – RD 10ft (OEM 6PK)

Suzuki DF300 Single Engine Adapter (OEM) Suz# 990C0-88031

Suzuki DF300 Dual Engine Adapter (OEM) Suz# 990C0-88032

Suzuki DF300 Triple Engine Adapter (OEM) Suz# 990C0-88033

Suzuki K8 Adapter Suz# 990C0-88035

Suzuki engine models compatible with NMEA 2000 using the EP-20 interface cable:

• DF 40: 2008 and later models require Suzuki K8 Adapter Suz# 990C0-88035

• DF 50: 2008 and later models require Suzuki K8 Adapter Suz# 990C0-88035

• DF 60: 2008 and later models require Suzuki K8 Adapter Suz# 990C0-88035

• DF 70: 2008 and later models require Suzuki K8 Adapter Suz# 990C0-88035

• DF 90: 2008 and later models require Suzuki K8 Adapter Suz# 990C0-88035

• DF 115: 2008 and later models require Suzuki K8 Adapter Suz# 990C0-88035

• DF 140: 2008 and later models require Suzuki K8 Adapter Suz# 990C0-88035

• DF 150: 2008 and later models require Suzuki K8 Adapter Suz# 990C0-88035

• DF 175: 2008 and later models require Suzuki K8 Adapter Suz# 990C0-88035

• DF 200: 2008 and later models require Suzuki K8 Adapter Suz# 990C0-88035

• DF 225: 2008 and later models require Suzuki K8 Adapter Suz# 990C0-88035

• DF 250: 2008 and later models require Suzuki K8 Adapter Suz# 990C0-88035

• DF 300: Requires Suzuki DF300 adapter; single, dual, or triple depending on the number of engines.

The Suzuki Engine interface can provide the following information over the NMEA 2000 network:

• Engine RPM

• Alternator Voltage

• Engine Hours

• Fuel Flow

• Engine Trim

• Fuel Used

• Trip Fuel Used

• Seasonal Fuel Used

• Speed over water (DF300 Only)

• Water Pressure (DF300 Only)

• Current Gear (DF300 Only)

• Standard Diagnostics

o Overheat

o Low Oil Pressure

o Over Rev

o Low Battery Voltage

Suzuki Engine Interface Configuration

The LMF-200 and LMF-400 can support up to three engines with one engine interface for each engine. If you have one configured engine interface, it will be displayed as Eng Int. If you have three configured fuel flows, they will appear as Port Eng, Cen Eng and Stbd Eng. When the interface is unconfigured it will be shown as UnCfg Eng. Each fuel flow has an internal menu with the following options: Unset Engine, Change Engine. Fuel Warning, Reset and Reset Fuel Calibration and Reset Trim Calibration.

NOTE: If, after configuring, unconfiguring or reconfiguring an engine interface, it is not shown on the Bus Devices list, you will have to refresh the list. To do this, let the menu time out and press MENU. Select SYSTEM SETUP and press MENU. Highlight B. DEVICES and press MENU. The Engine Interface will be listed with its new configuration setting.

To configure Suzuki Engine Interface: LMF-200

1. Press MENU, use the UP and DOWN keys to select SYSTEM SETUP and press MENU.

2. Highlight B. DEVICES and press MENU. The Bus Devices list will appear.

3. Select UNCFG ENG and press MENU. The following message will
appear: Hit Menu to Cfg Eng Int. Press MENU.

4. The Suzuki Engine Model menu will appear with the following options:

DF40, DF50, DF60, DF70, DF90/115, DF140, DF150, DF175, DF200/225, DF250 and DF300.

5. Select your Suzuki model engine from the list and press MENU. The
Select Engine menu will appear with up to three options: Port, Center and Starboard. (If you have a single-engine configuration, you will not be taken to the Select Engine menu. You will be taken back to the main display.)

6. Select the desired engine and press MENU. You will be taken back to the Bus Devices list where the engine interface will be shown with its new configuration

NOTE: If the engine interface you just configured is not shown on the Bus Devices the list, you will have to refresh the list. Let the Bus Devices list time out, then access it again.

To configure a Suzuki Engine Interface: LMF-400

1. Press MENU, use the UP and DOWN keys to select SYSTEM SETUP and press ENTER.

2. Highlight BUS DEVICES and press ENTER. The Bus Devices list will
appear.

3. Select UNCFG ENG INT and press ENTER. The following message will
appear: Press Enter to Configure Eng Intrfc.

4. Press ENTER. The following list of Suzuki engine models will appear:

DF40, DF50, DF60, DF70, DF90/115, DF140, DF150, DF175, DF200/225, DF250 and DF300.

5. Select your engine model from the list and press ENTER. The Select
Engine menu will appear with up to three options (Port, Center and Starboard), depending on your engine-tank configuration. If you chose a single engine configuration during Boat Setup, you will be taken back to the main display.

6. Highlight the engine connected to your engine interface and press
ENTER. If, for example, you select the Port, the following message will
appear: Press ENTER to change to Port Engine.

7. Press ENTER. You will be taken back to the main display.

jimh posted 07-04-2011 08:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Based on the gauges shown in SUZUKI literature

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/SUZUKI/Suzuki_SMIS_Brochure. pdf

the SMIS multi-function gauges look very similar to the Lowrance LMF series and the Evinrude I-Command series. I suspect that Lowrance is the actual OEM of these gauges.

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