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Antenna Placement - 25' Outrage
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posted 09-04-2011 10:03 AM ET (US)
I'm currently working on restoring/refurbishing a 25' Outrage. Part of that effort included replacing the teak gunwale boards.
The original antenna was an 8' fiberglass antenna that was mounted to the starboard gunwale. I have a newer 8' antenna from my 18' Outrage and the appropriate SS mounting hardware, however, I'm wondering if there is a better solution to putting five new holes in my beautiful new teak gunwale boards.
I'm willing to entertain options, including rail mounting the antenna at the rearmost section of the bow rail, or changing to a 3' SS Whip antenna mounted elsewhere (console rail?).
Your thoughts, advice and experiences would be appreciated. I'm a few months yet from getting the radio gear mounted in the boat, but I was just thinking about it this morning and wanted to get some input going on the subject.
posted 09-04-2011 03:47 PM ET (US)
I would like to see a/some pictures of your boat to give you some Ideas for your antenna mounting. I have a smaller whaler I ended up mounting a stainless Metz antenna on my console(its up all the time). With that said if you wish to mount an antenna to a rail I have a brand new in the box stainless steel Shakespeare rail mount and a NIB 4ft 5400XT antenna (also Shakespeare) I will sell both for $110,(ten for shipping), can not beat that deal with a stick...Take care
posted 09-04-2011 08:11 PM ET (US)
Thanks Contender, But I already have a Shakespeare 5225XT 8' antenna and the SS Fittings to mount it to the deck or to the rail....your offer is a good one though - you should put it in the Marketplace section.
posted 09-04-2011 10:45 PM ET (US)
I bought my boat with an 8 ft antenna on the gunnel but in the wrong place (everyone grabbed it).
I moved it to the aft rail on a ratchet mount. I drilled the rail and fed the cable through. Very clean install.
posted 09-05-2011 06:28 AM ET (US)
I mounted a 8' with stainless bracket on the wooden vertical portion, inboard on the starboard side, as far aft as you can mount it and still have access to the other side.
Machine screw with washer/lockwasher/nylock nut combination on the other side of the plank. When in storage position, it was secured by a s/s snap bracket (I think that's what it's called), mounted so you bend the antenna slightly to insert it in the bracket.
If you ever had to remove it, simply plug the holes and build up the area with varnish.
If needed, I may have photos in the archive...
Regards - Don
PS - If I was to do it over again, I'd go with the setup Jim has recommended in the past; an 8' extension with the modular antenna setup on top. Maybe even the 13' extension, but you'd probably need a support for that length.
posted 09-05-2011 11:49 PM ET (US)
As the proud owner of an Outrage 25, I would say the the best place in placing a vhf antenna would be on the console. As long as you don't have the full mills canvs set. I currently have mine on the gunwale and it serves it purpose but does get in the way. I've owned a montauk and nauset and hade the antenna on the console and like that set up better. Just my 2 cents. Thanks.
posted 09-11-2011 10:53 AM ET (US)
Don - Interesting suggestion. Did the bracketed mount on the inside of the gunwale ever get in the way? I would think it would be something that could easily snag clothing or even skin your knee as you walked back to the stern.
It is an interesting idea, however. I could also rail mount it to the stern seat rail in the back.
posted 09-11-2011 09:22 PM ET (US)
It was mounted far enough back that it didn't interfere with anything. From what I remember, the battery was also on the stb side, so we almost always entered / exited on the port side.
posted 09-12-2011 06:38 PM ET (US)
I'd look at mounting it on the roof of the cuddy. Then it'd be out of the way of almost all onboard activities. Since you have the deck off, go ahead and run some antenna coax up to the cuddy so you can use it later on. It's a bitch to run cable under the deck outside of the rigging tube.
posted 09-12-2011 07:30 PM ET (US)
I don't know, scrambling around on the roof of the cuddy to set or retrieve and anchor might be a pain with an antenna up there.
It might also present a problem while handling lines.
During the ISRO trip, I was trying to negotiate my way across Dave's cuddy roof, in the dark, and slightly drunk, to get to my boat. I ended up falling on my butt and scaring the hell out of him as he slept.
I might have been inclined to use a VHF antenna as a handhold had one been there...
posted 09-12-2011 07:33 PM ET (US)
I forgot to add, I would mount it on the console, using the same setup as Jim and Pat (a GAM).
You can move it when (or if) you install a T-top or arch.
posted 09-12-2011 09:05 PM ET (US)
Dave P, I made the suggestion after the North Channel trip. With the Mills canvas up the console mounted antenna could not be verticle, and it became an convienient handhold. I have since moved it to the forward rail where it's out of the way and the canvas isn't an issue.
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