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Ed Stone posted 05-25-2000 05:22 AM ET (US)
On sunday the 21st I took my brother-in-law
fishing out of Johnspass,Fl.The gulf was laid down flat.At fifteen miles out we started trolling at 45ft of water.we had a good day,four grouper,two gag and two red.The largest being 32inches.At 10 o'clock we packed it up and headed back in.The Whaler performed flawless.We were cleaning fish by 11o'clock.
See Ya,Ed Stone
BD posted 07-24-2000 09:58 PM ET (US)
Reminds me of Tuna fishing in no-mans-land off of Marta's Vineyard.
As a fourteen year old being invited out with a neighbor was a big thing...he took us a long way on a 17ft Montauk to harpoon tuna...memories.
Ed Stone posted 07-29-2000 11:02 PM ET (US)
Today I went just a little further out to 80 ft. of water caught 4 large red grouper and one king fish.I did some snorkeling in 80ft. to cool off.I followed the anchor down as far as I could but could not see bottom. The Whaler did great as always,and the ladder/swim platform was solid as a rock.Tomorow we have a trip planned out in the gulf.
See Ya,Ed Stone
Eric posted 07-30-2000 09:33 PM ET (US)
Ed: it's nice to read your accounts of your days on the water. They help to keep me from total discouragement. I'm in your area, and don't know when (if ever) I'll get to use the Whaler I bought in March (see my postings under "new gelcoat blistered" in Repairs and Modifications). A friend brought his Montauk down from Jacksonville this weekend and took us for a ride around Longboat pass area. I saw a lot of Whalers, and met someone with a really clean 70 center console (I think still a Nauset that year, mahogany console). What model do you have?
Eric
whalernut posted 07-31-2000 04:41 PM ET (US)
Wow guys, I can`t beleive people actually take `17 Montauks 15-30 miles offshore in the ocean. From what I have seen in the ocean the waves seem to roll more than my beloved Lake Erie. Going out in Lake Erie in a `17 anything that far out is almost like writing you`re own death sentence. If anyone knows what I am talking about you know how vicious Lake Erie can get and fast. 10-20 Ft. waves and not spaced out very far. They smack you around like a ping pong ball. Anyone like to comment or any Lake Erie stories would be great. I fish within 10 miles of shore with my `16 Currituck and only if the forecast is great and low winds. But as the saying goes if you don`t like the weather on Lake Erie now just wait a minute, and that can go either way fast! Regards-Jack Graner.
Barry posted 07-31-2000 06:48 PM ET (US)
According to his profile, Ed has a 17' Outrage. I little more boat than the Montauk. Although when I lived in NC I did once see a Montauk 40 miles out!
triblet posted 08-01-2000 12:23 AM ET (US)
You gotta pick and choose your days to put
a small boat on salt water. I get my
Montauk on the ocean about 50 days a year.
There are days to run south of Pt. Lobos,
and days to dive "the Barge" (right outside
the harbor) and days to stay home on work
on the boat and dive gear and cameras
(and lawns and dogs and romancing Admiral
Linda).
This time of year, most days are OK, in fact, every weekend day on July was OK. This winter we went five weeks without getting
the boat wet (#$%^&&!! battery was dead, now
it lives on a smart trickle charger).
There are lots of good resources for
predicting sea conditions. The US Navy has
a supercomputer group (coincidentally located
in Monterey) that does this world wide, and
they are nice enough to post the results on
the web. See http://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/PUBLIC/WAM/wam.html .
And to see the range of info available for
California, see http://www.garlic.com/~triblet/swell/wamglance.html
which I built to pull all the info into one
place.
I know of folks who have taken Montauks to
the Farallones (25 miles out). I'd do it on
the right day, but I'd want a second boat
along since I only have one motor.
Chuck Tribolet
BD posted 08-03-2000 08:51 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the links Chuck.
Ed Stone posted 08-14-2000 09:32 AM ET (US)
Hey Eric,
If your from the Long boat key area you
could fish west of Egmont key just south
of the ship channel.There is 40ft. of water
and I believe dredge debri spread across the
bottom.I use to fish that area with my 16ft
Whaler and had alot of success.From my area
That's 18 to 20 miles SW of Johnspass.
For you it would be A lot closer.
You would be 6 to 8 miles from Egmont.
Have you been to the Whaler dealer
in Longboatkey?They are selling out
all their Whaler's with or without
motors.They are a Yamaha dealer also
and they were forced out.They had a
23 Outrage with Twin 4-stroke Yamahas.
That boat would do just fine.
Good luck with your boat.
My present boat is the 17 Outrage.
Ed Stone.
Ed Stone posted 08-25-2000 11:45 PM ET (US)
This new spot in 80 ft. of water is great.
5 grouper by 10 o'clock >12pounder,2-10lb,
2-4pounder and about 10 throwbacks.It was
a little rough out.I bounced back at 30mph
and had the fish and boat cleaned by 12:30
Ed Stone

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Author	Topic: 20 miles out
Ed Stone	posted 05-25-2000 05:22 AM ET (US) On sunday the 21st I took my brother-in-law fishing out of Johnspass,Fl.The gulf was laid down flat.At fifteen miles out we started trolling at 45ft of water.we had a good day,four grouper,two gag and two red.The largest being 32inches.At 10 o'clock we packed it up and headed back in.The Whaler performed flawless.We were cleaning fish by 11o'clock. See Ya,Ed Stone
BD	posted 07-24-2000 09:58 PM ET (US) Reminds me of Tuna fishing in no-mans-land off of Marta's Vineyard. As a fourteen year old being invited out with a neighbor was a big thing...he took us a long way on a 17ft Montauk to harpoon tuna...memories.
Ed Stone	posted 07-29-2000 11:02 PM ET (US) Today I went just a little further out to 80 ft. of water caught 4 large red grouper and one king fish.I did some snorkeling in 80ft. to cool off.I followed the anchor down as far as I could but could not see bottom. The Whaler did great as always,and the ladder/swim platform was solid as a rock.Tomorow we have a trip planned out in the gulf. See Ya,Ed Stone
Eric	posted 07-30-2000 09:33 PM ET (US) Ed: it's nice to read your accounts of your days on the water. They help to keep me from total discouragement. I'm in your area, and don't know when (if ever) I'll get to use the Whaler I bought in March (see my postings under "new gelcoat blistered" in Repairs and Modifications). A friend brought his Montauk down from Jacksonville this weekend and took us for a ride around Longboat pass area. I saw a lot of Whalers, and met someone with a really clean 70 center console (I think still a Nauset that year, mahogany console). What model do you have? Eric
whalernut	posted 07-31-2000 04:41 PM ET (US) Wow guys, I can`t beleive people actually take `17 Montauks 15-30 miles offshore in the ocean. From what I have seen in the ocean the waves seem to roll more than my beloved Lake Erie. Going out in Lake Erie in a `17 anything that far out is almost like writing you`re own death sentence. If anyone knows what I am talking about you know how vicious Lake Erie can get and fast. 10-20 Ft. waves and not spaced out very far. They smack you around like a ping pong ball. Anyone like to comment or any Lake Erie stories would be great. I fish within 10 miles of shore with my `16 Currituck and only if the forecast is great and low winds. But as the saying goes if you don`t like the weather on Lake Erie now just wait a minute, and that can go either way fast! Regards-Jack Graner.
Barry	posted 07-31-2000 06:48 PM ET (US) According to his profile, Ed has a 17' Outrage. I little more boat than the Montauk. Although when I lived in NC I did once see a Montauk 40 miles out!
triblet	posted 08-01-2000 12:23 AM ET (US) You gotta pick and choose your days to put a small boat on salt water. I get my Montauk on the ocean about 50 days a year. There are days to run south of Pt. Lobos, and days to dive "the Barge" (right outside the harbor) and days to stay home on work on the boat and dive gear and cameras (and lawns and dogs and romancing Admiral Linda). This time of year, most days are OK, in fact, every weekend day on July was OK. This winter we went five weeks without getting the boat wet (#$%^&&!! battery was dead, now it lives on a smart trickle charger). There are lots of good resources for predicting sea conditions. The US Navy has a supercomputer group (coincidentally located in Monterey) that does this world wide, and they are nice enough to post the results on the web. See http://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/PUBLIC/WAM/wam.html . And to see the range of info available for California, see http://www.garlic.com/~triblet/swell/wamglance.html which I built to pull all the info into one place. I know of folks who have taken Montauks to the Farallones (25 miles out). I'd do it on the right day, but I'd want a second boat along since I only have one motor. Chuck Tribolet
BD	posted 08-03-2000 08:51 PM ET (US) Thanks for the links Chuck.
Ed Stone	posted 08-14-2000 09:32 AM ET (US) Hey Eric, If your from the Long boat key area you could fish west of Egmont key just south of the ship channel.There is 40ft. of water and I believe dredge debri spread across the bottom.I use to fish that area with my 16ft Whaler and had alot of success.From my area That's 18 to 20 miles SW of Johnspass. For you it would be A lot closer. You would be 6 to 8 miles from Egmont. Have you been to the Whaler dealer in Longboatkey?They are selling out all their Whaler's with or without motors.They are a Yamaha dealer also and they were forced out.They had a 23 Outrage with Twin 4-stroke Yamahas. That boat would do just fine. Good luck with your boat. My present boat is the 17 Outrage. Ed Stone.
Ed Stone	posted 08-25-2000 11:45 PM ET (US) This new spot in 80 ft. of water is great. 5 grouper by 10 o'clock >12pounder,2-10lb, 2-4pounder and about 10 throwbacks.It was a little rough out.I bounced back at 30mph and had the fish and boat cleaned by 12:30 Ed Stone