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caddis posted 04-19-2001 06:39 PM ET (US)
Just wondering what everyone's longest trip in their Whaler was. I've heard of crossing from Florida to the Bahamas, but what else? Reason I ask is that I live in Wisconsin, and the temptation to cross Lake Michigan. Won't be trying that anytime soon (ever), at least until I get more confidence in my boat and equipment. So far in the Revenge it's just been Fish Creek to Washington Island, and 10 or so miles offshore around Milwaukee, but that will change!
Scott Leidig posted 04-19-2001 09:00 PM ET (US)
I know of Kevin Vanacor who bought a Alert 17 in Connecticut and ran it to the Whaler plant in Edgewater.Whaler shipped it back for him.Article was in Whaler news about 1996
dfmcintyre posted 04-19-2001 09:00 PM ET (US)
Back when Whaler used to publish a WhalerNews magazine of sorts, I recall reading about someone who went down the Mississippi. Now THATS a long ways, in any small boat. And also up or down the eastern coast.
That trip across the lake should be no problem. Get confortable with the range and handling, pick your day carefully and leave early. We've crossed Lake Huron and also up the coast in a 22 Outrage and 25 Revenge. Best trip was from Cheyboygan, MI across the upper portion of Huron, straight up the Missassagi (sp) Straits to the Benjamin Island group of the North Channel region. Now, the Straits are _known_ for it's rough passage, but that day it was table top smooth from the start to the end.

Great run's like that are like alot of "greats" ....you remember them for the rest of your life.
Don
lhg posted 04-19-2001 09:22 PM ET (US)
Don - you must be getting old and your memory's failing you!!! But you are close. I say this because in the September 1988 issue of the Whaler News, on the SAME PAGE in which there is a picture of YOUR $100 award photo of your 22 Outrage, under "UNUSUAL RECORDS", they have:
"LONGEST SINGLE TRIP BY A BOSTON WHALER - 6400 miles from Miami FL, up the East Coast, through the Great Lakes (I assume they took the Hudson and NY State Barge Canal from NYC to Buffalo), down the Mississippi, and back to Miami, by John Bertsch, John Mirassou,and John Cameron, aboard a MONTAUK 17".
I think this is called the "Great Circle" trip. I remember when they came through town. If I remember correctly, they were also sleeping aboard the boat, hitting marinas at night and getting a lot of publicity along the way!
Now there's an idea for a Whaler Rendezvous!
lhg posted 04-19-2001 09:44 PM ET (US)
Caddis - more directly to your question, I've done it and you can do it in a Revenge with the right weather.
I put the 25 Outrage in at Ellison Harbor, on the Green Bay side, ran up to the north side of Rock Island, exited Great Bay and over to the Fox Islands, then up the mid lake Island chain to St James on Beaver Island, then down over to Charlevoix, then back across the Lake to Fayette Ghost Town State park, and back to the Door peninsula. Four day 4th of July weekend, with the weather co-operating! About 250 miles. Not many boats out there on the open water of Norther Lake Michigan. Really appreciate twin engines at times like that.
Don M - One other 4th of July weekend, about 1995, put the 18 Outrage in at Detour Village on Upper Lake Huron, ran down the southern, and always cold, 120 mile wilderness shore of Manitoulin Island (literally did not see another boat), then down to Tobermory. There, unknown to me, some guy by the name of Jim Herbert is taking a picture of Tobermory's Little Tub Harbor, with my boat in it, for use on some website he's going to start, way back then, called ContinuousWave! Talk about a small world! The picture is still on this site, in the North Channel section. Look for the speck of Blue Mills canvas in the upper right!
lhg posted 04-19-2001 09:48 PM ET (US)
Should have done my proof reading. We all know it's not Herbert, but A-BEAR or HE-bert!
Sorry, Jim.
Dick posted 04-19-2001 09:49 PM ET (US)
Years ago the Whaler dealer in Sitka, Ak told me about a couple he sold a Montauk to. They loaded a few necessary posessions and gear aboard and moved to Seattle on the Montauk.
Protected water most of the way but I'm not going to do it in my Montauk. Maybe if I were 30 years younger I would.
lhg posted 04-19-2001 09:59 PM ET (US)
Dick - that's a trip I'm really going to do one of these days in my 25.( at least Seattle to Prince Rupert) But I'm having a hard time talking anybody into it yet. But I will!
Dick posted 04-19-2001 10:10 PM ET (US)
It would be a great trip and I could be talked into that run with the Montauk.
Dick
lhg posted 04-19-2001 10:26 PM ET (US)
We might have the germ of Continuouswave's SUPER RENDEZVOUS here. Now, if we can convince others, and our Moderator to join in and chronicle the event! What a trip for 10 or 15 Whalers! The stretch from Port Hardy to Prince Rupert BC would be interesting! I've already bought all the cruising guides.
Dick posted 04-19-2001 10:39 PM ET (US)
Sounding interesting. I have never made that run. I have driven to PR and taken the ferry up from there and have done the Seattle / San Juans run (with a 38 Bayliner), but have never done that leg.
lhg posted 04-19-2001 10:48 PM ET (US)
Dick - in my 18 Outrage, I've been from Everett WA all the way up to Campbell River, including the San Juans, Gulf Islands, Nanaimo, Princess Louisa Inlet, Desolation Sound. All in a 7 day (on the water) trip, overnighting on the Whaler. The full Mills canvas made it all possible. Like Don M has said, you don't forget runs like that!
Now, trailing the boat out and back, that was not fun! But just part of the price you have to pay as a Midwesterner. But I'm going to do it again.
Dick posted 04-19-2001 11:32 PM ET (US)
ihg
Glad you enjoy our part of the world. Next time you are headed this way let me know either here on the forum or by e-mail.
It's allways a pleasure to meet a Whaler owner.
My office is in Everett, I can see the launching ramp from my window. Great place to start from.
BW27 posted 04-21-2001 12:57 AM ET (US)
LHG- How did you like crossing the Straits of Georgia in the Outrage? I have done this a few times in a sailboat. It is either nice and smooth or a bit lumpy.
This summer we will run the 27 (the boat you saw in a cradle in a little Lake Union boatyard) from Seattle to Desolation Sound, then up Johnstone Straits to near the north end of Vancouver Island. This should be nearly a 1000 mile round trip.
Casey Casebeer posted 04-21-2001 03:52 PM ET (US)
(I'll try this again...with Jim's help, maybe I can remember my password this time (Senior Moment, I guess...).
In May 2000 I trailered my Montauk (w/Honda 90) to Prince Rupert. Launched and headed north. Had the Trip Of a Lifetime. 1186 miles and one month later, I returned to Prince Rupert with no mishaps. Got all the way to Skagway, but didn't make it to Sitka (that's another story...). The Key is planning, planning, planning. If anyone wants to do the trip, contact me. I still have all the reference materials, charts, wayoints, routes, etc etc. and would be happy to share any and all.
Currently beginning the planning for another longish trip. This time it may be something along the Gulf Coast (ie. KeyWest to Brownsville?)
Casey Casebeer
lorencasebeer@aol.com
lhg posted 04-22-2001 08:43 PM ET (US)
Steve - Glad to see you're still out there monitoring the Forum! Hope the Whaler is progressing well.
On my BC coast cruise, we experienced very little rough weather. I followed the WA shore up to Anacortes, then across through the San Jaun's and Gulf Islands up to Nanaimo, all protected water. We crossed the Strait from there, over to Jervis Inlet area, just south of Texada island. Then up the mainland coast, including exploration of many inlets, up to Desolation Sound, etc. Returned the same way. On the return crossing, we encountered some waves maybe up to 4', but it wasn't too bad and only lasted about 1/2 hour.
I can't see that you'll have any trouble at all with the 27 if you watch your weather.
Sounds like a great cruise. Keep your eye out for logs south of Nanaimo.

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Author	Topic: Longest Voyage by Whaler?
caddis	posted 04-19-2001 06:39 PM ET (US) Just wondering what everyone's longest trip in their Whaler was. I've heard of crossing from Florida to the Bahamas, but what else? Reason I ask is that I live in Wisconsin, and the temptation to cross Lake Michigan. Won't be trying that anytime soon (ever), at least until I get more confidence in my boat and equipment. So far in the Revenge it's just been Fish Creek to Washington Island, and 10 or so miles offshore around Milwaukee, but that will change!
Scott Leidig	posted 04-19-2001 09:00 PM ET (US) I know of Kevin Vanacor who bought a Alert 17 in Connecticut and ran it to the Whaler plant in Edgewater.Whaler shipped it back for him.Article was in Whaler news about 1996
dfmcintyre	posted 04-19-2001 09:00 PM ET (US) Back when Whaler used to publish a WhalerNews magazine of sorts, I recall reading about someone who went down the Mississippi. Now THATS a long ways, in any small boat. And also up or down the eastern coast. That trip across the lake should be no problem. Get confortable with the range and handling, pick your day carefully and leave early. We've crossed Lake Huron and also up the coast in a 22 Outrage and 25 Revenge. Best trip was from Cheyboygan, MI across the upper portion of Huron, straight up the Missassagi (sp) Straits to the Benjamin Island group of the North Channel region. Now, the Straits are _known_ for it's rough passage, but that day it was table top smooth from the start to the end. Great run's like that are like alot of "greats" ....you remember them for the rest of your life. Don
lhg	posted 04-19-2001 09:22 PM ET (US) Don - you must be getting old and your memory's failing you!!! But you are close. I say this because in the September 1988 issue of the Whaler News, on the SAME PAGE in which there is a picture of YOUR $100 award photo of your 22 Outrage, under "UNUSUAL RECORDS", they have: "LONGEST SINGLE TRIP BY A BOSTON WHALER - 6400 miles from Miami FL, up the East Coast, through the Great Lakes (I assume they took the Hudson and NY State Barge Canal from NYC to Buffalo), down the Mississippi, and back to Miami, by John Bertsch, John Mirassou,and John Cameron, aboard a MONTAUK 17". I think this is called the "Great Circle" trip. I remember when they came through town. If I remember correctly, they were also sleeping aboard the boat, hitting marinas at night and getting a lot of publicity along the way! Now there's an idea for a Whaler Rendezvous!
lhg	posted 04-19-2001 09:44 PM ET (US) Caddis - more directly to your question, I've done it and you can do it in a Revenge with the right weather. I put the 25 Outrage in at Ellison Harbor, on the Green Bay side, ran up to the north side of Rock Island, exited Great Bay and over to the Fox Islands, then up the mid lake Island chain to St James on Beaver Island, then down over to Charlevoix, then back across the Lake to Fayette Ghost Town State park, and back to the Door peninsula. Four day 4th of July weekend, with the weather co-operating! About 250 miles. Not many boats out there on the open water of Norther Lake Michigan. Really appreciate twin engines at times like that. Don M - One other 4th of July weekend, about 1995, put the 18 Outrage in at Detour Village on Upper Lake Huron, ran down the southern, and always cold, 120 mile wilderness shore of Manitoulin Island (literally did not see another boat), then down to Tobermory. There, unknown to me, some guy by the name of Jim Herbert is taking a picture of Tobermory's Little Tub Harbor, with my boat in it, for use on some website he's going to start, way back then, called ContinuousWave! Talk about a small world! The picture is still on this site, in the North Channel section. Look for the speck of Blue Mills canvas in the upper right!
lhg	posted 04-19-2001 09:48 PM ET (US) Should have done my proof reading. We all know it's not Herbert, but A-BEAR or HE-bert! Sorry, Jim.
Dick	posted 04-19-2001 09:49 PM ET (US) Years ago the Whaler dealer in Sitka, Ak told me about a couple he sold a Montauk to. They loaded a few necessary posessions and gear aboard and moved to Seattle on the Montauk. Protected water most of the way but I'm not going to do it in my Montauk. Maybe if I were 30 years younger I would.
lhg	posted 04-19-2001 09:59 PM ET (US) Dick - that's a trip I'm really going to do one of these days in my 25.( at least Seattle to Prince Rupert) But I'm having a hard time talking anybody into it yet. But I will!
Dick	posted 04-19-2001 10:10 PM ET (US) It would be a great trip and I could be talked into that run with the Montauk. Dick
lhg	posted 04-19-2001 10:26 PM ET (US) We might have the germ of Continuouswave's SUPER RENDEZVOUS here. Now, if we can convince others, and our Moderator to join in and chronicle the event! What a trip for 10 or 15 Whalers! The stretch from Port Hardy to Prince Rupert BC would be interesting! I've already bought all the cruising guides.
Dick	posted 04-19-2001 10:39 PM ET (US) Sounding interesting. I have never made that run. I have driven to PR and taken the ferry up from there and have done the Seattle / San Juans run (with a 38 Bayliner), but have never done that leg.
lhg	posted 04-19-2001 10:48 PM ET (US) Dick - in my 18 Outrage, I've been from Everett WA all the way up to Campbell River, including the San Juans, Gulf Islands, Nanaimo, Princess Louisa Inlet, Desolation Sound. All in a 7 day (on the water) trip, overnighting on the Whaler. The full Mills canvas made it all possible. Like Don M has said, you don't forget runs like that! Now, trailing the boat out and back, that was not fun! But just part of the price you have to pay as a Midwesterner. But I'm going to do it again.
Dick	posted 04-19-2001 11:32 PM ET (US) ihg Glad you enjoy our part of the world. Next time you are headed this way let me know either here on the forum or by e-mail. It's allways a pleasure to meet a Whaler owner. My office is in Everett, I can see the launching ramp from my window. Great place to start from.
BW27	posted 04-21-2001 12:57 AM ET (US) LHG- How did you like crossing the Straits of Georgia in the Outrage? I have done this a few times in a sailboat. It is either nice and smooth or a bit lumpy. This summer we will run the 27 (the boat you saw in a cradle in a little Lake Union boatyard) from Seattle to Desolation Sound, then up Johnstone Straits to near the north end of Vancouver Island. This should be nearly a 1000 mile round trip.
Casey Casebeer	posted 04-21-2001 03:52 PM ET (US) (I'll try this again...with Jim's help, maybe I can remember my password this time (Senior Moment, I guess...). In May 2000 I trailered my Montauk (w/Honda 90) to Prince Rupert. Launched and headed north. Had the Trip Of a Lifetime. 1186 miles and one month later, I returned to Prince Rupert with no mishaps. Got all the way to Skagway, but didn't make it to Sitka (that's another story...). The Key is planning, planning, planning. If anyone wants to do the trip, contact me. I still have all the reference materials, charts, wayoints, routes, etc etc. and would be happy to share any and all. Currently beginning the planning for another longish trip. This time it may be something along the Gulf Coast (ie. KeyWest to Brownsville?) Casey Casebeer lorencasebeer@aol.com
lhg	posted 04-22-2001 08:43 PM ET (US) Steve - Glad to see you're still out there monitoring the Forum! Hope the Whaler is progressing well. On my BC coast cruise, we experienced very little rough weather. I followed the WA shore up to Anacortes, then across through the San Jaun's and Gulf Islands up to Nanaimo, all protected water. We crossed the Strait from there, over to Jervis Inlet area, just south of Texada island. Then up the mainland coast, including exploration of many inlets, up to Desolation Sound, etc. Returned the same way. On the return crossing, we encountered some waves maybe up to 4', but it wasn't too bad and only lasted about 1/2 hour. I can't see that you'll have any trouble at all with the 27 if you watch your weather. Sounds like a great cruise. Keep your eye out for logs south of Nanaimo.