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Jerry Townsend posted 03-09-2002 05:32 PM ET (US)   Profile for Jerry Townsend   Send Email to Jerry Townsend  
Well Tsuriki, Tom Clark and anyone else in the northwest, we can't let everyone else have all the fun can we? I would be receptive to something - someplace - say somewhere on the Columbia, or in northern Idaho we have Lake Coeur d'Alene, lake Pend Orielle (Pond-a-ray) an absolutely beautiful place, or somewhere at everyone's convenience. Is there any interest? and if so, what are your thoughts. ------ Jerry/Idaho
Dick posted 03-09-2002 06:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Jerry

I skippered our first Puget Sound rendezvous here on Lake Washington last August. It was great meeting new people, comparing boats and cruising.

I haven't talked to him recently, but NWflyfisher was putting plans together for a 2002 Rendezvous at Gig Harbor or elsewhere on the sound.

I'm sure that when he reads this he will let us know what's going on.

Dick

Jerry Townsend posted 03-09-2002 11:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
Dick - wasn't even aware of your rendevous on Lake Washington - how many boats and people participated? I have not heard anything about a rendevous in 2002 - but then, I often do not review this topic - until now. Anyway, I am in favor - providing it is not scheduled at the same time as my daughter's wedding (August 16). ---- Jerry/Idaho
Dick posted 03-10-2002 11:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Jerry

We ended up with 7 boats. One of these days I will get the pictures to Jim for posting.

Tsuriki BW posted 03-10-2002 02:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Jerry...

Get togethers are great (even though I had to go to NYC during our first one)..

Visit these to see just how much work Dick put into ours last year. It is a lot of work and Dick did a great job.

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000047.html

then:

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000065.html

Hopefully NWFlyFisher will jump in and let us know what he has been doing regarding 2002. If not, go for it!

Tsuriki

Jerry Townsend posted 03-10-2002 03:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
Tsuriki - thanks for the references to last year's rendevous. Sounds like those that participated had a very nice event - thanks to Dick, yourself and others that chipped in. I am surprised that you only had six boats - but Kingfish in MI (I believe) where they certainly have more BWs than Seattle mentions that they only had 10 boats.

Any "pond" in WA or ID would be alright with me - we will be there unless something drastic comes up. I will also help in any way that I can.

My only thought - being unaware of the earlier rendevous - there should be enough BWs in the northwest for some fun. Sounds like there is.

kingfish posted 03-10-2002 07:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Jerry-

I will answer your e-mail about North Channel Rendezvous 2000 in a more detailed way, but I thought it a good idea to point out here that one reason that loomed large for only 10 boats was the remote location.

I was already at our camp (where we hosted the rendezvous) for our summer vacation, 520 miles from home. The rest of the crew put in at Tobermory, Ont. which I think is in the range of 300 miles from the closest participant. Once in the water, they had another (help me out here, jimh or lhg) 60 or 80 miles to cover *just to get to base camp*.

In some ways, it was a rendezvous worthy of the Voyageurs (who actually passed through some of the area we covered).

kingfish

Jerry Townsend posted 03-11-2002 11:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
Kingfish - that explains the participation thing and thanks for enlightening me. You have a REAL hide-out. I thought, when I read the summary of your rendevous that - gee - that doesn't sound like many boats for an area that must have a large number of Whalers. And then, extrapolating to the northwest, hell we wouldn't have but a small handful.

Your reply also made me think about my total round trip distance on 50 gallons without refueling - might have to invent an aerial tanker refueling system. But seriously, I need to determine the fuel consumption rate on my 115 Evinrude - good information to have. Thanks John ---- Jerry/Idaho

Taylor posted 03-11-2002 06:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
I'd be interested in a NW rendezvous, but Idaho is too far for my tow vehicle. I was assuming somehere around the Puget Sound. Whidbey Island maybe? (hint hint)
Tom W Clark posted 03-11-2002 07:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Taylor,

Whidbey Island you say? How generous of you to offer your summer cottage for this event. I'm sure Angel won't mind; she's such a fan of your Whaler and this forum...

If we plan something for around the 4th of July or perhaps the weekend of the July 13 and 14 we may see a cameo appearance of certain Midwestern FORUM members who are rumored to be making a Whaler cruise in the PNW at about this time.

This all presumes the Gig Harbor rendezvous idea is changeable. Has anyone heard from NWflyfisher recently?

Dick posted 03-11-2002 07:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Tom

I'll give NWflyfisher a call tonight.

Dick

NWflyfisher posted 03-11-2002 10:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for NWflyfisher    
I did quite a bit of networking throughout the Harbor and received some very positive feedback from merchants and the Chamber of Commerce. Marinas weren't too thrilled since they wouldn't be renting slips for a weekend. Nothing has been written in stone at this point.

One major drawback to having the rendezvous in Gig Harbor exists. Here in the "Maritime Community" there exists only one public launch; a concrete, single boat "Kentucky" style launch (is that what its called? Long stretch of concrete angling down to the water, that's it!) Parking somewhat at a premium accomodating only about 12 trailered vehicles. Summer Kings draw a good number of anglers launching there. Tsuriki can attest to the hazards one might encounter launching or retrieving at low tide although hanging out at Tides Tavern while the tide comes in isn't all that bad of a deal assuming one imbibes in adult beverages and enjoys fish & chips.

Last year, there were rumors of improving the launch and building a pier for this year's boating season. Construction was to have started several months ago; nada to date. I checked into it today at City Hall and was told the project was nixed for this year while they continue to figure out who should fund it. It may be a reality for next year (yeah, right.)

I would call Gig Harbor a no-go for this year only because of the limited launching capabilities. I gladly cede the reins to Taylor for a gathering on Whidbey Island this year or to Jerry if he'd like to pick up the ball for something South. And this year I'll be sure my wife takes vacation days for the day before and the day of the event. I'm still sick over missing last year's rendezvous.

Greg in Gig Harbor

Jerry Townsend posted 03-11-2002 11:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
NWflyfisherman - No - keep a going and I will help you any way that I can. I was unaware of your efforts when I made the suggestion. The rendevous should be around the whaler population center - and that is not in Idaho.

My only thoughts - it should be somewhere in the Sound area - Lake Washington to Hood Canal. It should be where the marina, eating, motel and camping facilities are sufficient. It should be easily accessible.

But then, NWFlyfisherman - since you like to fish - we could have it here in Idaho or Montana on the Henry's fork, the Madison or Hebgon. Out of curosity, did you know a Boyd Aigner - another avid fly fisherman?

I have two committments this summer - when a daughter is getting married and when my sister from Florida will be visiting - and if I skipped either to be playing with boats, I would be TOAST! Other than that, I will be there - where-ever it is.

NWflyfisher posted 03-12-2002 09:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for NWflyfisher    
Jerry,

I've been a saltwater fly fisherman for nearly 24 of my 43 fishing years now; Idaho trout streams would be Greek to me these days. :) Don't know Boyd Ainger.

Dick & Tsuriki: input re: Gig Harbor? You've been here and seen it up close and personal.

Tsuriki: I'm over it.

Tsuriki BW posted 03-13-2002 12:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
GHG (NWFlyFisher)...Great to hear from you. Hope you have been well.

Gig Harbor is one of the "Jewels" of the PNW. Great little town, just from my couple visits. Lots of things to see and do.

The ramp is a bit of a challange. But others could launch at PT. Defiance and motor over, it's not that far.

The Tides Tavern is a great place (they even have great Burgers, LOL).

I would vote for you to carry the ball and continue with the 2002 rendezvous as we talked about last year.

I'm also so sorry I had to spend the time in NYC rather than at the rendezvous...but the boss took priority.

Tsuriki

P.S. Would love to learn how to fly fish for salmon, even though I can't even spin cast my way out of a paper bag fight now...

Tsuriki BW posted 03-13-2002 12:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
"right now"...sure wish we had an edit mode on the board..

Tsuriki

Dick posted 03-13-2002 01:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
NWflyfisher

Gig Harbor is one of the most beautiful places I have ever been and I think it would be a great place for a rendezvous. The Tides Tavern is a tremendous ++++.

As we have talked about, the launch facilities leave a lot to be desired and are the only negative. Launching at Pt Defiance or Narrows Tackle can also be a chalange. The run across from either is not far unless the weather kicks up and then it can be a very long miserable trip.

I think it may be better to look at somewhere else for this year that offers better launching facilities and save Gig Harbor untill they upgrade the boat launch.

There is a nice ramp and tons of parking at Oak Harbor. Lots of nice scenery.

There is a nice ramp with lots of parking in Anacortas. Maybe a one day run to Friday Harbor for lunch and sight seeing. Great brew pub just up the street from the marina.

Decent ramp and parking at the east end of the Hood Canal bridge. Cruise Hood Canal and look for Nuke Subs. A bring your own lunch trip.

I know I have only scratched the surface so lets start doing some brainstorming.

Count me in for any help I can provide.

Dick

Taylor posted 03-13-2002 07:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
Tom, what Angel actually said was 'you can do that if you want...by yourself'. I took it as a maybe.

We have a funky community dock: it goes dry when the tide goes below about 4.0 ft. I'll check it more carefully this weekend and check the tide chart too.

We are about an hour whaler run from Coupeville, and there is a good dock there and reportly great mussels there at Toby's. Langley is nearer. Toby's would be a nice jaunt across the bay from Oak Harbor.

A Friday Harbor brew pub sounds pretty good too.

NWflyfisher posted 03-13-2002 10:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for NWflyfisher    
Hey Taylor,

Great photo on your homepage! Got a question. You apparently have the same strip of metal above your registration numbers on your Montauk that I have on mine. Pardon my ingnorance (I'm new to boating and Whalers), but what the heck is that strip for? I assume yours is on Port & Starboard as mine is. I know I'm going to be embarrased with your answer.

Apologies to all for the off-topic post, but this has been bugging me since the day I bought mine.

Tom Byrum posted 03-14-2002 12:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom Byrum  Send Email to Tom Byrum     
I would try to make it if the timing is right. I would love to cruise around Puget Sound fishing and sightseeing. Especially if you guys do a fishing tournament like you did last year. Around here bad launch facilities mean no waiting and plenty of parking. Its always a pain in the butt at the nice crowded ramps.
Taylor posted 03-14-2002 02:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
Greg,

Lets see, ummm... perhaps is a grounding anode for the 500 watt on board stereo. No, its a backup plate for the leash I use to keep the little girl out of the prop if she hurls herself over the bow at speed.

Gosh, sometimes I shock myself.

No really, isn't it a backup plate for the upper stantion holder? I've seen other boats with more of them.

Actually I do have a harness and leash I used when the kids where smaller, but you hook it to the console.

NWflyfisher posted 03-14-2002 07:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for NWflyfisher    
thanks a lot.
Tsuriki BW posted 03-15-2002 12:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
GHG,

Maybe a bit more info on the "tag"and Tom Clark can probably figure it out.

Any more plans for the 2002 rendezvous? You had a lot of good ideas for the 2001 and seemed to really look forward to 2002.

Tsuriki

Dick posted 03-15-2002 12:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
NWflyfisher

As I suspected those are backing plates for the forward port & starboard rail stanchion supports that attach to the side of the hull.

I am e-mailing you a page from a 1985 parts book that shows them.

Dick

Taylor posted 03-15-2002 02:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
Well, Dick can spell stanchion, which is better than I can do :)

Do we have a date? What about July 13-14 as Tom sugggested? Would that work for visitors?

NWflyfisher posted 03-15-2002 07:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for NWflyfisher    
Yeah, we do, but in their emails, everyone made a pact not to let you know what it was. Only kidding.

Its really June 31. I think we decided on something North of Falcon

Gosh, sometimes I just get on a roll. Maybe its still up in the air, or may not, I don't know.

Jerry Townsend posted 03-15-2002 11:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
NWflyfisher - regarding the date - I am already committed for a couple of days on each side of July 31 and for a few days on each side of August 16.

The scheduling issue can be simplfied if everyone were to let you know of unacceptable dates. Even so, the date with miminum impact to everyone still might prevent someone from attending.

But, from the sounds of it, there will be a northwest rendevous in 2002 - I'm looking forward to it. Thanks --- Jerry/Idaho

NWflyfisher posted 03-16-2002 01:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for NWflyfisher    
Jerry: June 31 was intentional and not a typo. I wanted to share in Taylor's joy of a flippant response.

Everyone: OK, how about this...a survey.

First is location. A. Gig Harbor, B. Whidbey Island C. Alternate Location(make a suggestion)or D. I really don't care as I'll be there regardless.

Second is date. 5 is May, 6 is June, 7 is July, 8 is August, 9 is September. I believe these will be the preferred months weather-wise. In responding to the date, include those which are open for you in parentheses.

EXAMPLE: if you want it at Port Angeles in August and you were free to attend between the 5th and the 15th as well as the 21st through 31st, your response might look something like this: C8(Port Angeles)(5-15, 21-31.)

I don't want to waste a lot of space on the board, so send your survey to me at nwflyfisher@cs.com.

Let's give next Friday (March 22) at 1800 as the cutoff to give everyone a chance to think about it, check schedules etc. To ensure nobody thinks I'm cheating, I will post the final results after 1800 next Friday. Included will be a list of everyone responding with their preferences as well as the winning location and dates.

Sound fair to everyone? If not, please make a suggestion.

Was hoping to get pics of the Gig Harbor ramp online tonight so you all could see why I'm concerned, but my ISP's server is undergoing maintenance for their funky homepage service and won't allow posting for the next several days. I'll check with Dick and Tsuriki and see if they will allow me to forward via email to them so they could post them somewhere for you all to view.

Greg

NWflyfisher posted 03-16-2002 02:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for NWflyfisher    
To answer the next obvious question that I failed to address before it gets asked, yes, multiple months are acceptable. Only one location, however.
Taylor posted 03-18-2002 02:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
Greg, I'm sorry you found my response flippant. I was trying for humor, but certainly not at your expense. I thought that I had included the correct information, and if it is any consolation, the first time I saw those strips I asked what they were too.

In person, I hope I'm funnier than this. So, lets get on with the Rendezvous.

Dick posted 03-18-2002 03:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
With the weather we are having today, hopefully it will stop snowing by July.
If not, lets do it anyway.
skookum point posted 03-19-2002 03:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for skookum point  Send Email to skookum point     
Two other Puget Sound sites that are interesting to visit and have good launching facilities are Olympia and Port Townsend.
Dick posted 03-19-2002 05:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Skookum Point

Both are interesting spots, probably Port Townsand is the most interesting. I haven't checked out the ramps in either. What is the parking situation?

Taylor posted 03-19-2002 09:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
http://boat.iac.wa.gov/launches.asp?county=Jefferson&map=2 has some details on launching ramps.
Dick posted 03-19-2002 10:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Taylor

Unless some one has seen the facilities in person there is no sense considering a launch area based on a web site. Your link to Port Townsand is long overdue for an update as are many others.

The only way to assist NWflyfisher in the 2002 rendezvous is for us to get off our butts and check out possible launch areas and parking with picture backup.

Dick

Rodger posted 03-20-2002 12:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for Rodger  Send Email to Rodger     
Hi,
Just wanted to let everyone know that I'm looking forward to attending the Northwest Whaler gatering this year. Time and place does not really matter to me as much as just getting together to enjoy our Whalers, the great Northwest, and each other. Take care,
Rodger - 13’ Dauntless - Vancouver, WA
skookum point posted 03-20-2002 03:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for skookum point  Send Email to skookum point     
I promise I'm going to make it this year - regardless of location!

The ramp at Olympia is an excellent two lane affair with a long floating dock down the center. It's good even on low tides. It is located at what used to be called the EastBay Marina but is now called Swantown Marina. I have lauched here many times. Seven dollar launch fee, I think. Always plenty of parking. Then just a 10 minute "no-wake" run around the point to Percival Landing which has lots of visitor dock space for day use and overnight. Kind of a funky mini-urban atmosphere with a variety restaurants and shopping within 2 blocks. This is the site of the annual Labor Day weekend Tug Boat Festival. Budd inlet is usually very calm in summer.

Port Townsend is more of a Victorian/boutique waterfront town with two marinas. Boat Haven is a full service "working" marina, not a resort location. It has a concrete public launch ramp that looked pretty good to me several years ago. But the marina map at www.portofpt.com/marine/boathaven_map shows it at a different location than I remember, so it should be checked out first. The Port Hundson Marina, on the other hand, is in a better location. It's smaller and more rustic, cozy and easy walking to restaurants and shopping. Lots of Bed-and-Breakfasts nearby. This is the site of a very popular Wooden Boat Festival in September. The launch ramp here is basic and is only useable at mid-to-high tide, it has bulkheads on both sides where the Travelift from the adjacent boatyard runs. The other ramp at Boat Haven is about 1.5 miles away. Port Townsend is a fun place to visit however the surrounding waters are quite exposed and can get rough - but July/Aug/Sep is usually no problem.

Both of these locations are popular overnight destinations for cruising folks and may be crowded on weekends. Same thing almost anywhere else, I suppose.

The proposed Whidbey Island location sounds interesting. Quartermaster Harbor on Vashon Island is another possibility - has someone been there recently?

Dick posted 03-20-2002 03:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
SkookumPoint
Dick posted 03-20-2002 03:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
SkookumPoint

Great report, the Olympia location sounds real good. I am going to check out some of the locations here in the North sound next week and should be able to get into Port Townsand and check it as well.

Dick posted 03-26-2002 09:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
I just got an e-mail from NWflyfisher and it doesn't look like he is going to be able to lead the 2002 rendezvous as was planed.
The way my work schedual looks for the upcoming season I won't be able to take control again this year, new job as service manager at an on water marina.

Lets get some ideas out here. Who can be the captain, where will we go and when.

I will give all the assistance in planning and etc that I can.

2001 was the first PNW rendezvous lets do something to make 2002 even better.

Dick

Dick posted 03-26-2002 09:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
I missed a couple very important aspects of the rendezvous.

Who wants to attend?

What is the best timing for you?
Our most stable weather is June, July or August.

Would you like a one or two day trip?

This years rendezvous was initialy planed as a saltwater trip. What are you'r thoughts?

Feedback please.

Dick

Jerry Townsend posted 03-26-2002 10:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
Dick - I agree - let's do something.

Greg's not being able to help is most unfortunate - but hopefully, someone in the Seattle/Sound area has the time to glue this thing together.

And Dick's schedule and responsibilities prevent him from doing it - so hopefully, someone in the area has the time to glue this thing together.

Being in Idaho, I will help anyway that I can and my only constraints are for a few days each side of July 21 and August 16.

Some of the earlier words were talking about Lake Washington - and then later shifted toward the Sound. In view of those messages, I wonder if a freshwater rendevous is preferrable. It doesn't make any difference to me - I will, in all probability, be there.

As I mentioned earlier - the population density of BW owners is in the Seattle area - so that is where the PNW rendevous should be held - eventhough Lake Pend Orielle in Idaho is prettier.

Jerry/Idaho

Dick posted 03-27-2002 12:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Jerry

Lake Pend Orielle is not pretty, it's beautifull. Fishing ain't to bad either.

Idaho is part of the PNW so it could be a possibility. If not this year, some other. Get some of these flatlanders into real hill country.

Jerry Townsend posted 03-27-2002 12:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
Dick - that comment was made somewhat in jest - because as I commented, the PNW BW population density is certainly centered in around Seattle.

I am somewhat familiar with the area as my wife is from Seattle, I have relatives in Seattle and in Belfair et.al. There are undoubtedly many locations and facilities in the area for a rendevous.

But, as you mentioned, perhaps down the road a piece, after we get the PNW rendevous established, having one at Pend Orielle would hopefully work.

But the first thing is get some interest and have someone step up and agree to coordinate the thing for this year. That person should be located in the area. I will help that individual any way that I can and there will be others that will help too.

Jerry/Idaho

Tsuriki BW posted 03-27-2002 05:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Dick,

Thanks for picking up the ball, even temporarily. hope someone else comes and takes over.

Would like to see the tradition you started continue.

Tsuriki

Tsuriki BW posted 03-27-2002 10:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Tom Clark, Tom Byrum, Taylor, Rodger, Skookum, others......

Where are you guys at?

Can we get this thing going again?

Give Dick your input, and if you can grab the project and let's get the 2002 rendezvous going.

Tsuriki

Rodger posted 03-28-2002 12:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for Rodger  Send Email to Rodger     
Hi Tsuriki,
Dick did a great job last year and we definately need to keep the ball rolling for this year. Even if somebody does not step up to the plate as the coach, I'm sure we can agree on a time and place to all meet. I would like to propose setting a date that works for all of us and then decide on the place. I personally like the weekends of July 27, August 3, or August 10. These dates should work for Jerry, and they work for me. Does anyone have a conflict with any of these dates?
Tsuriki BW posted 03-28-2002 12:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Rodger,

The August 3rd or 10th would probably work for me. Anybody else? We need to do this together. What do the rest of you think?

Tsuriki

Russ posted 03-28-2002 03:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for Russ  Send Email to Russ     
If all goes well we will attend the second NW Rendezvous. My wife and I, and ol' Luke, thoroughly enjoyed last year's cruise of Lake Washington. We certainly appreciate the time and effort spent in organizing the event. Pulling the Whaler through strange city territory was challenging, tho. Any time from about July 10, to the end of September, and a place near an R/V camp would be O.K.. A ramp that can accomodate a 22' Revenge would make things easier, too. We expect to be in Sekiu sometime in early June.
Russ

We expect

Russ posted 03-28-2002 04:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for Russ  Send Email to Russ     
"We expect" (?) Yes, an edit mode wuold help.
So would a better prepost editing job.
Russ
skookum point posted 03-28-2002 12:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for skookum point  Send Email to skookum point     
I agree with Rodger - if we can agree on a date and a place we can make it happen - even without a designated champion.
July 27, Aug 3, or Aug 10, any of these will be perfect for me since I will be in the NW at that time anyway. My preference would be July 27.
Dick posted 03-28-2002 02:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
I am wide open on the dates so I will go with the majority.

I agree after setting the dates lets then figure out where.

One point I hadn't thought of is accessibility. If we do a salt water rendezvous we do not want to be at the mercey of the ferry system. It gets pretty expensive when you are towing a boat and the the long waiting lines can turn you into a drinker.

Looks like we are heading in the right direction. If no one is able to step up and skipper it we can still put it together.

I think the most important thing we need is feedback from all who would like to attend.

Not everyone on last years list has responded here so I will get an e-mail out to all of them, some of you will get it as well as I don't want to edit my phone book.

Russ
Anxious to see that new boat.

Dick

Taylor posted 03-28-2002 03:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
August is out for me. July after the week of the Fourth would be good, my preference is the 13th or 14th, but the other weekends are ok, too.
Tom W Clark posted 03-28-2002 05:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Taylor and I can do the organizing since we are both in Seattle and what we have discussed is making a simple day excursion to some place like Blake Island State Park where there is a marina and reservable picnic shelters for groups. There is also overnight camping for those who might be interested. It is really a nice park which includes the whole 475 acre island.

There is a nice little marina which would accommodate us all and it is an easy run from anywhere in the central Puget Sound area.

I was thinking that if Taylor and I put together a nice picnic lunch then we could run over there in the morning have lunch, talk boats, whatever and then those who were interested could follow all this up with a run back to Seattle to either Shilshole Marina or Bell Harbor Marina and find a restaurant/bar for dinner or just drinks and more BSing.

This would give everybody a variety of options as to where to launch and whether to make it a simple day trip or an overnight trip with camping on Blake.

I think we can all agree that the 4th of July weekend may not be the best but how about July 13th?

skookum point posted 03-28-2002 05:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for skookum point  Send Email to skookum point     
Here’s my location suggestion. Olympia. Easy freeway access, no ferries, nice ramp, lots of parking, and public guest moorage near ramp. Do a day-trip north out of Budd Inlet to Jarrell Cove State Park on Harstene Island. Nice State Park dock there – good place for a lunch stop – also has a general store and a RV Park but no launch ramp. Return to Olympia with possible side trips. I’m thinking its about a 1-1/2 hour (or less) run each way at 25 knots.

You can find photos of these locations at www.ecy.wa.gov/apps/shorephotos

Photo THU0148 is an overall view of central Olympia waterfront
Photo THU0149 the launch ramp appears at an angle in the upper part of the photo
Photo THU0151 shows Percival Landing at right of center
Photo MAS0372 and MAS0376 show views of Jarrells Cove.

On the other hand, I wouldn't be opposed to Lake Washington again, either.

John

Dick posted 03-28-2002 07:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Tom
Your idea sounds good. The only problem I can see is that the run from Shilshole can get pretty nasty at times for the smaller boats. I have never seen the West Seattle ramp. Do you have any idea of the condition? It sounds ok on the web site but who knows.

Skookumpoint
The Olympia area would be nice. Haven't seen the ramp in a few years but as I remember it is ok. Nice scenery down there as well.

Tsuriki BW posted 03-28-2002 09:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Dick,

I have used the Don Armini(sp?) ramp a lot. It has 4 slots, 2 for launching, 2 for pulling out with docks in between. It's a very good ramp. Lots of parking. $4.00 launch fee. One of the best I have been to.

Close by is Salty's on Alkai. A great restaurant with a view of Seattle, at night, that is unbeliveable. Never been to the bar, but it is probably good for a few after rendezvous drinks.

Tsuriki

Tom W Clark posted 03-28-2002 09:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Dick,

The west Seattle ramp is very nice and the run from there to Blake is 6 nm.

In July, if there is wind it is likely to be a fair weather Northerly and although the run from West Seattle would be exposed to it the entire way, the run from Duwamish Head to Blake would have the wind in a stern quartering direction and not be bad.

The run fro Shilshole would be almost all downwind. Those summer breezes typically die down towards evening so I don't think it would be bad at all. Besides, the smallest boat last year was Rodger's 13' Dauntless and I am sure he would be undaunted, so to speak.

Tom W Clark posted 03-28-2002 09:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Here is an aerial view of the marina at Blake Island that Taylor found: http://www.ecy.wa.gov/apps/shorephotos/scripts/bigphoto.asp?id=KIT0707

The reservable picnic shelters are visible in this photo as the structures at the bottom and left side of the grass field adjacent to the marina.

When I was there last summer I was boat camping with a niece, nephew and one of my brothers. We camped at a site on the beach on the South side of the point in this photo. It was totally easy as it was only about 200 yards from the dock.

But remember, there are camp sites around the entire perimeter of the island as well as mooring buoys. The West end of the island is a superb sand spit and the interior of the island has trails all through it. There is no development on the island apart from Tillicum Village which is where the marina is.

skookum point posted 03-28-2002 11:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for skookum point  Send Email to skookum point     
Blake Island would be fun to see again. Haven't been there since childhood. I have heard that dock space is hard to come by during the summer months - even on weekdays. Beachng might be a necessity, but the larger boats could pick up State Park mooring buoys (or anchor out) and be shuttled in by the smaller boats.
Still, it's an interesting destination and I'm all for it.

John

Tsuriki BW posted 03-28-2002 11:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Blake Island sounds good to me. (Allan Bank is close and good for a few salmon). Having a mighty Dauntless 14, I ain't scared of a few waves...LOL

Usually have board meetings 3rd week of July but the 27th might work.

Tsuriki

Rodger posted 03-29-2002 12:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for Rodger  Send Email to Rodger     
Hi All,
I have gone back through the posts and it appears that Taylor is ok for July but not August. Russ is ok for July 10th on.
This leaves all of us with July 13, 20, and 27. If I am not mistaken there has been no opposition to any of these dates so far. I would like to see all of us agree on one of these dates and write it on our "going to be there" calendar. Please respond with yes or no to each date that would work for you.

I will go first: July 13, 20, and 27 all OK

How about you Dick?, Jerry?, Tsuriki?, Taylor?, Tom Clark?, Tom Byrum?, Greg?, Skookum Point?, Russ?, Kingfish, Others?

Tsuriki BW posted 03-29-2002 01:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Roger,

I will put down July 27 as tentatively OK... Won't know absolutely or sure about my board meetings, but I think that is the best date.

Tsuriki

Tom Byrum posted 03-29-2002 01:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom Byrum  Send Email to Tom Byrum     
I am not sure I can make it but July would be better for me. August is tuna time here in San Francisco. Puget Sound gets my vote. Also Tom C if you need a ride for the N Cal meet your welcome on my boat.
Jerry Townsend posted 03-29-2002 11:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
Hey guys - sounds like this thing will work - thanks to everybody. The dates - July 20 and 27 are iffy - but I might be able to make those dates - be assured - if I can make it, I will! The only hard spots I have are a few days either side of July 23 and several days either side of August 16.--- Jerry/Idaho
Dick posted 03-29-2002 01:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
I have no problem with any of the July dates. Just set the date and I'll be there.
Taylor posted 03-29-2002 02:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
I'll check with the State Parks on availability for a picnic shelter at Blake Island on those three Saturdays.
Taylor posted 03-29-2002 03:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
Both the 'Center' and the 'Point' picnic shelters are available on all three dates. For under 50 people the fee is $57. I went ahead and reserved 7/13 and the Center shelter on my credit card. There is a $4 fee to change or cancel. So there is a stake in the ground, which I'll be happy to move if needed.

Questions: Point of Center, 13,20 or 27th?

Taylor posted 03-29-2002 08:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
The questuons should read 'Point' *or* 'Center' picnic shelter (for those who have been there) and July 13, 20th or 27th.
Dick posted 03-29-2002 10:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Tom & Taylor

Has any thought been given to a cruise along the Seattle waterfront sometime during the day? With the thousands of people there on a weekend I bet it would stir up some interest. Would be better yet if we could get some TV coverage.
"Chopper 5 spotted this contingent of Boston Whaler boats enjoying their 2002 rendezvous, etc."

Tom W Clark posted 03-29-2002 10:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
I am not sure, but I think the "point" picnic shelter is what we want. The "center" is the one on the left in the photo linked above. It is on the backside of the grass field away from the water. Both shelters are about the same distance form the docks but the "point" shelter has a better view if my memory serves me. Perhaps somebody has a boat ready to go and would like to zip over there this weekend to check it out?

Of the three July dates I can do any of them. Statistically, later in July will give us the best chance of good weather but for me the 13th would be best.

Dick, TV coverage? I think that's a bit of a stretch, but then again my brother has been on the news three times in the last two weeks. I guess Seattle is still a sleepy little town. I like that.

Rodger posted 03-30-2002 01:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for Rodger  Send Email to Rodger     
It sounds to me like Blake Island on July 27th is a pretty good idea. Does anybody have experience with the boat ramp at either Port Orchard or Manchester?
Thanks,
Rodger
Russ posted 03-30-2002 01:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for Russ  Send Email to Russ     
Does anyone have any knowledge of the Illahee State Park. There's supposed to be a ramp and R/V parking there.
Russ
Tsuriki BW posted 03-30-2002 09:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
I'll go with Tom....

The "Point" on July 13th.

Tsuriki

Jerry Townsend posted 03-30-2002 11:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
July 13th is the best date for myself.

I thank everyone for glueing this thing together.

Taylor - you put some bucks out to reserve that spot. I, and certainly many others will cover this cost - let me know how much you need. Thanks ----- Jerry/Idaho

Dick posted 03-30-2002 03:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Russ

The State park web site shows that Illahee has 24 spots that will accomidate RVs, no hook-ups.
One launching ramp.
www.parks.wa.gov

I haven't seen it so I don't know how user friendly the ramp is.

Tom W Clark posted 03-31-2002 01:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
There is a public launch ramp at Manchester. It is at the foot of Main St. It has a small parking lot for about 10 truck/trailers. No overnight parking. Manchester State Park, though on the water, has no launch ramp or dock.

Port Orchard would be a better place to launch for those approaching from the South as there is a very nice double lane ramp there with a big parking lot that allows overnight parking ($5 per day after the first 24 hours, which are free)

I visited both these ramps today while passing through the area and they are both fine for anything but extreme low tide. They both have nice docks.

Illahee is reported to have two ramps, but I don't know what they are like.

There are also ramps at Suquamish, Fay Bainbridge State Park (North end of Bainbridge), Winslow, and Fort Ward State Park (South end of Bainbridge). With the exception of Winslow, these ramps have no docks and are exposed and difficult at low tide, I know, I've used them all.

Rodger posted 03-31-2002 10:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rodger  Send Email to Rodger     
Hi Tom,
Thanks for the information on boat ramps and parking for us approaching from the South. It sounds like Port Orchard might be the best choice for me.
BTW, what time do we all want to meet at Blake island on the 13th?
Rodger
Russ posted 03-31-2002 11:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for Russ  Send Email to Russ     
Dick,

Thanks for your help. It seems that Illahee State Park doesn't take reservations tho, so I don't think we'd better try it. It's perfect, otherwise.

Tom,
Thanks for the insight regarding launch sites. Port Orchard sounds pretty good. Now I have to locate a suitable R/V park in that vicinity. So far I haven't found one.

Rodger,
Maybe we can have our own mini renezvous at Port Orchard.

Has a firm date been established?

Russ

Russ posted 03-31-2002 11:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for Russ  Send Email to Russ     
"rendezvous" 'Got to learn to edit!
Russ
Taylor posted 04-01-2002 07:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
I switched the reservation to the 'Point' picnic shelter (#2) at Blake Island, still on Saturday, 7/13. So yes, I think we have a firm date.

Food... can someone catch a nice fish on the way over?

Rodger posted 04-01-2002 08:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rodger  Send Email to Rodger     
Hi Russ,
I think that meeting at the Port Orchard boat ramp would be a great idea. I can't wait to see your revenge, I'm sure I'll be a little jealous :-)
Rodger
skookum point posted 04-01-2002 11:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for skookum point  Send Email to skookum point     
July 13 works for me - and Port Orchard will be the most convenient lauch ramp.
Keith Silliman posted 04-02-2002 11:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for Keith Silliman    
Slightly off topic:

I may be in Seattle 7/27 -7/28 and then Portland 7/29 - 31 for work if anyone is interested in showing off their whaler to an East Coast forumite. Alternatively, any whaler rentals available near either city?

Rodger posted 04-02-2002 08:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rodger  Send Email to Rodger     
Hi Keith,
You are more than welcome to swing by and check out my Dauntless 13 in Vancouver Washington. I do not know of any Whaler rentals in the Portland area, however if it works out we can go for a spin on the mighty Columbia River. I'm always looking for any excuse to take the Whaler out!
Rodger
Dick posted 04-02-2002 09:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Keith

There are no Whaler rentals here in Seattle, but I would be happy to give you a tour of some local waters aboard my Montauk.
I have weekends off so the timing is good.

Dick

Russ posted 04-05-2002 01:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for Russ  Send Email to Russ     
Rodger and skookum point,
Are you driving up on The 13nth, or are you planning to arrive earlier and stay someplace in the area? I have a place reserved at the Manchester State Park.
Russ
skookum point posted 04-05-2002 02:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for skookum point  Send Email to skookum point     
Russ, I will be in Shelton, WA for most of the month of July - about 45 miles SE of Manchester State Park. I would like to be able to meet up with you and the others at the ramp so we can make the run to Blake together.
Rodger posted 04-05-2002 05:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rodger  Send Email to Rodger     
Hi Russ,
I will most likely stay at a friends house in the Olympia area and drive up to Port Orchard Saturday morning. I agree with skookum point; we should meet and run out to Blake Island together.
Take care,
Rodger
Rodger posted 04-06-2002 04:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for Rodger  Send Email to Rodger     
Hi,
I just made a simple web page with a few pictures from last years rendezvous. Thought you might want to take a look.
http://home.pacifier.com/~randb/BostonWhaler.htm
Tsuriki BW posted 04-07-2002 05:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Well, I'm back from a week in Japan. Sounds like things are moving right along.

Looking forward to getting the Dauntless out for some fishing/cruzing. Will try to visit the island/marina.

Tsuriki

Jerry Townsend posted 04-08-2002 01:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
Hey guys - sounds like this thing is getting glued down. What is the schedule - or is that still a tad fluid at this time?

Tom - What ramp in Port Orchard are you talking about? My map shows 2 or 3 ramps around the ferries and the ramp at Manchester. It would be nice if parking were available around the Manchester ramp. Are reservations required at the Manchester State Park? ----- Jerry/Idaho

Tsuriki BW posted 04-08-2002 05:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Can I make some assumptions here?

Date: July 13th (maybe also the 14th)

Destination Place: Bake Island State Park, the Point

Main Launch: Don Armini Launch (West Seattle)

Starting time: 9:00am

"Back at the ramp" time: 6.00pm

Fishing free time available.

Is this kinda the plan?

What does everyone think? What about lunch?

How 'bout like we did last year.....

Boat: 1999 Dauntless 14
Persons: 1 (space available)
VHF: Yes
Launching: Don Armini Launch
Fishing: Yes

Tsuriki

Taylor posted 04-09-2002 07:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
Tsuriki - Yes, that sounds about right.

For food, Tom suggested grilling burgers and polish dogs with pasta salad, chips and beverages. Is that what you guys did last year, and how does that sound? I think Tom may have a good place to get these things, lets see.

We would need a count, but its a bit early for that. But perhaps Dick would like to keep track of the attendees, since he has an email out on that already. OK?


Dick posted 04-09-2002 07:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Taylor

Happy to help out. Might work best if everyone sent me an e-mail with the pertinant details.

Dick posted 04-09-2002 07:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Taylor

Happy to help out. Might work best if everyone sent me an e-mail with the pertinant details.
How many in the party?
Where are you launching?
What boat are you running?
Do you have a VHF radio?

Burgers and Brats sounds good to me.
Last year we hit Ivar's seafood bar on Lake Union.

Dick

Tsuriki BW posted 04-09-2002 08:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Uhhh..

How about everybody post their intentions here. It's always great to see who else is coming, their boat, etc. Keep the excitement up.

Just my idea.

Tsuriki

Tom W Clark posted 04-09-2002 08:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Yes, I think we should see who is coming. Just make a post here and we can all see who is on the list. Based on this thread I think we can assume a tentative group consisting of (FORUM UserName in parenthesis):

Taylor Clark (Taylor) in his 1988 Montauk
Tom Clark (Tom W Clark)
Jerry Townsend (Jerry Townsend) in his 1996 Outrage 17
Dick Peterson (Dick) in his 1999 Montauk
Greg Cook (TsurikiBW) in his 1999 Dauntless 14
Roger (Roger) in his 1997 Dauntless 13
Russ Hubbard (Russ) in his 1981 Revenge 22
Greg Tims (NWflyfisher) in his 1977 Montauk
John (skookum point) in his 1987 15 Super Sport

Other possible participants include:

Tom Byrum (Tom Byrum) in his 1989 Outrage 18

Other local FORUM members I have met but not heard from regarding this event include:

Al Ulbrickson (Einar) in his 1983 Montauk
Jim Zeppa (ZEPPA) in his 1971 Revenge 21

Who else is out there?

Regarding the meal, Taylor and I have discussed it and I think given our destination of Blake Island and the group picnic area we have reserved, that it is only fitting that we have a nice barbecue and grill up whatever we want. Taylor and I will provide the food but, of course, if anyone has something they want to contribute that's great too. We have plenty of time between now and July 13 to pin down the menu.

It doesn’t sound like everyone is coming from the same launch ramp. Port Orchard may well have the most Whalers. Both West Seattle and Shilshole may launch some of us and I would guess Taylor will probably run down from Whidbey.

Because of this, we needn’t set a launch time but rather just agree to a general “arrive at Blake Island” time of, oh say, 11:00 AM. This will give everybody plenty of time to get there, introduce ourselves and check out each others boats. We can then eat and follow that with whatever we want to do.

Dick posted 04-09-2002 10:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Looks like there are to many chiefs to me. One person has to take responsability to organize this and delegate as needed.
Whoever is going to skipper this rendezvous step up and take charge. Tom, Taylor or ?.
I plan on attending, but as things stand now there is to much confusion as to who is putting it on to be of assistance.
Dick
skookum point posted 04-10-2002 12:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for skookum point  Send Email to skookum point     
How about a chef instead of a chief? Does BBQ salmon sound good to anyone else?

We have a date, we have a place, we have a group. How organized do we need to be for an informal gathering? What are we missing?

I suppose it would be nice to try to get the word out to non-forum Whaler owners in the area - but that's optional.

John

Tsuriki BW posted 04-10-2002 01:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Tom,

Good summary. Thanks.

Couple of things...I can get some salmon and MAYBE some crap. (nice thing about having a seafood subsidiary).

11:00 seems a bit late. The day will go by fast enough. How about aiming for 10:00?

Tsuriki

Tsuriki BW posted 04-10-2002 01:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Duhhh...read CRAB (King type).

I always have crap available...hehehehehe

Tsuriki

Tsuriki BW posted 04-10-2002 01:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Duhhh...read CRAB (King type).

I always have crap available...hehehehehe

Tsuriki

Dick posted 04-10-2002 08:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Thought this might be interesting.
NOAA tide predictions for 7-13-02
Elliot Bay
6:38 AM High 10.0'
1:45 PM Low -2.1'
9:05 PM High 12.6'
Jerry Townsend posted 04-10-2002 11:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
Dick - interesting. Thanks. Since we don't have to contend with tides in Idaho, I am a novice - and assume that launching/taking out at other than low tide conditions is preferred. Is there a problem with launching/taking out at high tide? Is there always the approx 15 hour cycle in the tides? ----- Thanks ---- Jerry/Idaho
Tsuriki BW posted 04-10-2002 12:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Jerry,

Too low a tide can mean you either cant' launch or can't retrieve. (happened to me at Gig Harbor. Tide was so low that there was a 1 - 2' drop off at the ramp and I would have scraped the bottom of my boat trying to get it in.)

What it does mean is that between 12:45 and 2:45 it could be good salmon fishing. An hour before to an hour after a tide change is good fishing. Location then becomes the thing, whether the bait are stacked up during the incoming or the outgoing tide.

If you are interested in salmon fishing, let me know. I'll fix you up with all the gear.

Tsuriki

Taylor posted 04-10-2002 01:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
Dick, thanks for the reminder on the tide. Jerry, I think what it means is that around 10am there the tide will be down to 4' and ebbing fast. (If I interporlated correctly) Launching early would be a good idea. On the other end, all you need to do is wait till the water comes high enough. It also means there will be a bunch of beach at Blake Island, good for beaching before lunch and letting kids explore the tide pools/flats until the water comes back in. Of course we don't have to beach, they have a dock there, but I'll better the water gets skimpy under it.
Taylor posted 04-10-2002 01:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
regarding others - What about "beachedwhale" with that nice 1968 Nauset featured on page 53 of Cetecea? I'd sure like to see that boat in person.
skookum point posted 04-10-2002 03:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for skookum point  Send Email to skookum point     
Tsuriki - Cool! I want to learn how to fish for salmon! As for gear - if you can generate a shopping list of the basics, I'll get my own stuff.

John

skookum point posted 04-10-2002 03:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for skookum point  Send Email to skookum point     
Jerry - I'm not familiar with the available ramps at Port Orchard/Manchester. My reference material suggests the Port Orchard marina has the best ramp in the area, useable at all tides, but limited parking. I also see a nice dock at Manchester SP but no confirmation of a viable ramp. I will be in the area two weeks from now and should be able to check out the ramps in person - can take digital photos if desired.

John

Jerry Townsend posted 04-10-2002 04:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
Tsurki, John and Taylor - thanks for the
information.

Tsurki - I'll take you up on the fishing gear offer - thanks. All of my gear is for trout here in the intermountain area.

John - from the sounds of it - the Port Orchard marina may be the best bet.

Is anyone aware of camping facilities around Port Orchard? I see camping at the Manchester SP and at the Illabee SP - but nothing else. Thanks --- Jerry/Idaho

Tsuriki BW posted 04-10-2002 05:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Jerry...skookum..

Salmon gear:

8 - 9 foot medium strength, fast action rod. (If you steelhead fish, a steelhead rod is perfect).

Good quality casting reel (I use Shimano Calcutta's or Curado's) You need one with a good drag.

Good quality 15 - 20lb line. (I use 10 - 17lb Fireline., but I like "light lineing it").

2 - 8 oz bananna weight. (We will probably use 4 - 5 most of the time but the others are good to have in slack/ripping tide.)

I tie my own hook/leaders and will bring plenty for all. If you want to do your own, a combo of size 1/1O, 1O/2O, 2O/2O Gamakatsu hooks on good quality 20lb mono spaced 3 - 3 1/2 inches apart work well. Leader length 3 - 5 feet. I will cure up some herring for us all.

I have enough rods/reels for several people. I will also bring a selection of swivels and snaps.

Tsuriki

lhg posted 04-10-2002 06:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Don't you guys out there run 2 or 4 downriggers on a boat for salmon/trout trolling? On the Great Lakes, without downriggers you don't catch squat.
Tom W Clark posted 04-10-2002 06:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Oh I can see this thread degenerating into a fishing thread.....

Downriggers are one way to go if you're a meat fisherman. But I'm a more sporting type. Light tackle mooching is salmon fishing at its purest.

Actually, I do use downriggers but they are not necessary. When I do I usually just use them to get a cut plug herring down deep. That way when you hook into a salmon you don't even have so much as a little sinker between you and the fish. But there are all types of approaches to catching a salmon and all techniques have their vocal proponents.

I'm with Tsuriki BW on the gear. I use a 10 1/2 foot steelhead rod and a very small bait casting reel spooled with 8 lb. test mono. I also have several extra rod/reel combos all with level wind reels like the Penn 10, Shimano Corsair 400, Ambassador ProMax, ect that are available to anybody who wants to use one. In truth just about anything will work to catch fish but lighter gear is just more fun.

Regarding the tides they work to our favor. We will be launching and retrieving during good water levels. The harbor at Blake is plenty deep and will be fine for anything we will be bringing regardless of tidal level.

As far as fishing is concerned, it's the morning slack water that will be productive and if you're serious about catching a salmon you need to get up at dawn and be out on the water and fishing no later than 6:00AM. It is very difficult to catch a salmon in the middle of summer at midday.

If we want to really do it up we should plan on fishing early and maybe catching something for lunch. That would be great. We could still fish the low slack if we wanted to.

Jerry, as I posted above, Manchester Park does not have a dock or ramp. It is a nice camping facility none the less. I do not know if they require reservations but according to Russ, you can make a reservation which you cannot do at Ilahee.

The ramp at Port Orchard is the only one on that side and it is a good one with plenty of parking. Manchester has a ramp at the foot of Main Street with a really nice dock but not much in the way of parking and none of that is overnight. Bremerton has a ramp but it will not be convenient for you.

Don’t forgot that Blake Island itself is a superb place to camp. Very easy and beautiful to boot, though you can’t drive there, of course.

Tsuriki BW posted 04-10-2002 07:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
lhg,

Actually, trolling with downriggers is a popular way of fishing for salmon here. I have dual Scotty electrics but mooching is more fun. Feeling that "tap - tap - jerk" of the salmon, setting the hook and feeling it run is more fun for me.

I even have a small Shimano Bantam 251 with a direct drive switch that I love the best. You use your thumb to control the "drag". Now that is real fishing!!!!

I use downriggers especially when we get a sockeye fishery on Lake Washington. Pulling a flasher with a bare red Gamakatsu hook is the way to go.

Tom, I have had good luck with salmon in the afternoon. Finding the bait is the deciding factor.

But...a funny story...Some friends and I were fishing on a charter out of Seattle that we had been on many times. The boat had a lot of "new comers" on board so when we got to the fishing area (early in the morning) the captian was going through his usual explaination of how to "mooch". Most were sleepy because of the hour. My friends and I dropped our lines, ignoring the talk. and BAM...I hooked a salmon. I had to interupt the Captain's speech. " Uhhh excuse me but could you please get the net"? After netting the fish, he said " this is what I am talking about".... We all had a good laugh.

A 10 1/2 foot rod?? Your are Noodling.......

Saw a guy get a 16 - 18 lb'r on a noodle rod, 4lb test line. Took him about 45 minutes but he did have fun.

I actually love using 6lb Fireline with 2 -3 oz weight, Loosen up the drag a bit and use your thumb. I have a 10 1/2' Loomis I would like to try.

Again, I can bring some salmon in case we all fall on our face.....

Tsuriki

Dick posted 04-10-2002 08:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
A little tidal trivia and a stupid stunt I pulled.

Projected tides, Anchorage Ak 7-13-2002
4:33 AM low 3.9'
9:55 AM High 29.9'
5:04 PM Low -2.1'
10:49 PM High 29.3'

15' to 30' tide swings are the norm in Alaska. Being a compitent river runner I knew the salt was a no brainer. Two buddies and I left Whittier Ak in my 16' Hewes Craft with a Merc 80 jet. We ran down Prince William Sound and up a small river to set up a camp site.
After camp was set up dinner was cooked and after a few toddies we hit the sleeping bags for an early wake up call for a day of fishing in the sound.
I stepped out of the tent to get the coffee going and there was my boat high and dry and no water within 100 yards.
We did a lot of drinking that day.
I never went without a tide book after that.

Russ posted 04-11-2002 12:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for Russ  Send Email to Russ     
Jerry,
The Manchester State Park is the closest R/V park to Port Orchard. It's about 6 miles beyond the town. They take reservations. The number to call is: 1-888-226-7688. I have a space reserved for the nights of July 12th, and 13nth. I was told that it's big enough to accomodate my camper and boat. There are spaces there up to 60'. I couldn't locate any private R/V parks anywhere near that could help me out. it's probably a good idea to reserve soon if you're planning to stay at the Manchester Park.

It would be interesting to see if Westend salmon fishing techniques work in that area.

Russ

Bryan Snead posted 04-11-2002 03:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bryan Snead  Send Email to Bryan Snead     
Just found this page and purchased a whaler over the winter. I would be intrested in attending. If I can assist in anyway please let me know I will be launching from Port Orchard

Bryan

Jerry Townsend posted 04-11-2002 03:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
Russ - thank you for the information. I will call them and make reservations for the 12th and 13th as well. Looking forward to seeing your Revenge. --- Thanks again --- Jerry/Idaho
Rodger posted 04-11-2002 04:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rodger  Send Email to Rodger     
Welcome aboard Bryan.
Rodger
Seattlerocket posted 04-11-2002 04:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for Seattlerocket  Send Email to Seattlerocket     
Me too Me too
2002 13' sport
maybe my ship mate Bailey
5 yo Chocolate lab
lae posted 04-11-2002 09:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for lae  Send Email to lae     
Too soon to know if business commitments will allow me to attend, but plan to try. It is not too long of a haul from the dusty Tri-Cities to the Sound. Autumn (1974 Katama) and I will try.
Larry
Dick posted 04-11-2002 09:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Larry

Hope you can make it. I have never seen a Katama and would love to.

Dick

Dick posted 04-11-2002 10:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Looks like there is some real good interest this year. Hope I didn't miss anyone, but this is the list I came up with.


Larry 1974 Katama
Jerry Townsand ?
Tsuriki 14 Dauntless
Taylor 1988 Montauk
Tom Clark ?
Tom Byrum 1989 Outrage
Skookum Point 1987 15SS
Rodger 1997 13 Dauntless
Russ 22 Revenge
Dick 1999 Montauk

Last years attendees that haven't been heard from yet.
RFK 1991 16SL, A long haul from Ill.
Wavejumper 1994 17 Outrage, Seattle boat so he may reply.

Looking good.

Jerry Townsend posted 04-12-2002 12:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
Dick - I'll be there - unless I crash and burn before then - with my 17 Outrage. --- Jerry/Idaho
Tom W Clark posted 04-12-2002 12:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Bryan, Seattlerocket & Larry,

Welcome. I do hope you can join us, it will be fun.

I have also sent email invitations to these local FORUM members:

Al Ulbrickson (Einar) who is a maybe.
Bruce Montgomery (beachedwhale) who cannot join us because he has another commitment that day.
Hank Wiswell (wizwhaler) who is a maybe.
Matt (Matthew) who I have not yet heard from.
Jim Zeppa (ZEPPA) who I have not yet heard from.

So the list as it stands now is:

Taylor Clark (Taylor) in his 1988 Montauk
Tom Clark (Tom W Clark)
Jerry Townsend (Jerry Townsend) in his 1996 Outrage 17
Dick Peterson (Dick) in his 1999 Montauk
Greg Cook (TsurikiBW) in his 1999 Dauntless 14
Rodger (Rodger) in his 1997 Dauntless 13
Russ Hubbard (Russ) in his 1981 Revenge 22
Greg Tims (NWflyfisher) in his 1977 Montauk
John (skookum point) in his 1987 15 Super Sport
Bryan Snead (Brian Snead)
(Seattlerocket) in his 2002 13' Sport
Larry Eaton (lae) in his 1974 Katama


With the following in the maybe category:

Tom Byrum (Tom Byrum) in his 1989 Outrage 18
Al Ulbrickson (Einar) in his 1983 Montauk or his 1980 17' Sport
Hank Wiswell (wizwhaler) 15' Sport
Jim Zeppa (ZEPPA) in his 1971 Revenge 21
Matt (Matthew) 15' Sport

Matthew posted 04-12-2002 12:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for Matthew  Send Email to Matthew     
Tom,
Thanks for the email as I follow the forum daily, but haven't looked in the rendevous section for some time. Count me and the 15' sport in. I live close to the Don Armeni boat ramp and usually launch there.
I recently saw the Manchester facility from the water, I was fishing between the ramp and the point. The facility has been updated and looks like a great ramp and dock.
Matt

Bryan Snead posted 04-12-2002 10:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bryan Snead  Send Email to Bryan Snead     
Look forward to meeting everyone. Sounds like a great day. I have a 1989 13' super sport limited.

Rodger- Earlier in the chat you had mentioned meeting at the ramp in Port Orchard and going over as a group, is that still the plan?

Bryan

Rodger posted 04-13-2002 12:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for Rodger  Send Email to Rodger     
Hi Bryan,
It sounds like there are a few of us that would like to meet at Port Orchard for the little trip out to Blake Island. If we all meet at Blake Island at 10:00 AM I would like to be in the water at Port Orchard at about 9:00 AM to give us plenty of time. Let me know what you think.
Thanks,
Rodger
Tsuriki BW posted 04-13-2002 10:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Everybody...

With nearly 130 posts on this thread, a long load time, basic plan in place, what about starting a new thread. Say, the "2002 Northwest Blake Island Rendezvous".

We could post the date, destination, launches, times, who is coming, their boat, lunch plans etc. with a link to the previous thread, for those interested. A lot of the intro and preplanning has already be done on this thread and we could continue with current and near date planning.

What do you think? Tom, you could summerize on the new thread.

Tsuriki

Bryan Snead posted 04-15-2002 01:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bryan Snead  Send Email to Bryan Snead     
Rodger

Sounds great will see you then.

Bryan

skookum point posted 04-16-2002 06:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for skookum point  Send Email to skookum point     
I'm intrigued by Matthew's report of a new ramp at Manchester. I'll go check it out next week when I'm in the area - if no one else beats me to it. Could be a real bonus for those who intend to camp there.
John Anderson
Tom W Clark posted 04-17-2002 12:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
skookum point,

The Manchester ramp is nice as I have said above. (I visited it a couple weeks ago) It is at the foot of Main Street but lacks much in the way of parking. There are maybe ten spaces and none of them very long. The bigger problem for some may be that no overnight parking is allowed there.

At Tsuriki BW's suggestion, I will start a new thread. This one IS getting kinda' long.

Tom W Clark posted 04-17-2002 01:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
I have started a new thread for the details of our Rendezvous: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000128.html

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