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Sal A posted 06-21-2004 05:44 AM ET (US)
Gents and Ladies,
Saturday or Sunday? August 7th or August 8th? I'd still like to meet other Whaler owners and see their crafts. Nick did you say you will be up 8/8 (Sunday) and 8/9 (Monday)? If so then I guess Sunday morning, 8/8/2004, makes sense? Maybe we can all meet at 10:30 or 11:00 am? Thoughts?
Please weigh in if you can make it, your preferred day? if the timing makes sense? Looking forward to meeting you.
Bigshot posted 06-21-2004 10:08 AM ET (US)
Sunday sounds good to me.
rtk posted 06-22-2004 08:26 PM ET (US)
I have no plans for that weekend- either day sounds good to me. I would like to meet you all. Calendar is marked.
Rich
Sal A posted 06-22-2004 08:47 PM ET (US)
I'll also buzz the guys at OBM Lanoka Harbor, Mark and Pete, as I don't know if they monitor here all the time. Looking foward to getting a nice group together and chewing the fat.
Sal
Bigshot posted 06-23-2004 01:11 PM ET (US)
Who is leaving from Barnegat area? My parents moved to Barnegat so I might need to bum a ride if I can't borrow a boat, etc.
devildog posted 06-24-2004 05:06 PM ET (US)
I'm in for Sunday.
Biggie, I have a friend who lives in Bayville so I thought I'd put in there somewhere. I can give you a ride.
Jeff Myers
devildog posted 06-25-2004 07:39 PM ET (US)
Bueler?
bkovak posted 06-25-2004 08:42 PM ET (US)
Hey, count me in. My folks are in Toms River and I spend a lot of time fishing Barnegat Bay and Island beach (just got a 23 lb striper). I'll probably moor the Outrage there for the weekend. Tices shoal sounds great in August! Brian
Sal A posted 06-27-2004 10:05 PM ET (US)
Bump.
And thanks Jeff for the mention in GAM; good idea.
devildog posted 06-28-2004 01:28 PM ET (US)
What's the best tide for Tice's? Who has a Barnegat bay tide table?
Jeff
Bigshot posted 06-28-2004 02:10 PM ET (US)
http://www.saltwatertides.com/cgi-local/gulfcoast.cgi
Hit the regios link and then NJ.
Bigshot posted 06-28-2004 02:11 PM ET (US)
Day High Tide Height Sunrise Moon Time % Moon
/Low Time Feet Sunset Visible
Su 8 High 2:12 AM 2.2 6:02 AM Set 2:33 PM 49
8 Low 8:27 AM 0.4 8:01 PM
8 High 2:41 PM 2.5
8 Low 9:33 PM 0.6
devildog posted 06-29-2004 05:21 PM ET (US)
Nick,
I was down by your old stompin grounds today. There's a good ramp right by Forked River State Marina. Do you know of a better place to launch nearby. I'd rather not go onto LBI or Island Beach and deal with all the shoobs.
Jeff
rtk posted 06-29-2004 06:58 PM ET (US)
Both Good Luck Point Marina and Ocean Gate Yacht Basin in Bayville have good ramps. They do not appear to be very busy on the weekend like some other launch areas. I think the fee is around $10.
Ride to Tice's will only take about 15 minutes from there. Both of these marinas are off the beaten path- more locals around than shoobs.
All along Bayview Avenue in Bayville there are alot of places to launch. There is a park at the entrance to Cedar Creek (I can't remember the name)- on that road there is an open area to the mouth of the creek where some people launch.
I will be happy to compile a list of ramps in my area if anyone is interested, just let me know.
Rich
Sal A posted 06-30-2004 07:44 AM ET (US)
Hey guys.
I would call OBM in Lanoka Harbor. Decent chance Mark will let you guys launch from there, and it is right across the bay from Tices.
Help a one time Bennie out; what is a shoob?
Sal
Bigshot posted 06-30-2004 10:50 AM ET (US)
I know LBI and a few ramps in Manahawkin/barnegat. I kept my boat in the water behind a house for 28+ years so I did not do a lot of towing. I also know of 2 or 3 ramps on the Delaware river....about it.
devildog posted 06-30-2004 08:52 PM ET (US)
Sal,
Further down South Jersey it's shoobies instead of Bennies.
A common story says the name came from day trippers taking lunch to the beach in a shoe box.
Now that I live up on the Delaware, my son and my Dad who both live in Sea Isle say I'm a shoobie.
Jeff
SpeedBump posted 07-05-2004 11:55 AM ET (US)
Looking forward to August 8th. While the tides will be favorable that day it wouldn't pose much of a problem even at low tide. For those looking for a ramp, south of the state marina is a free ramp on Lake Side Drive south. it is east of Route 9 and puts you on Forked River. Once you break the mouth of the river you have a 12-15 min trip across the bay to Tices. there is also a nice ramp at the Lacey Elks on Beach Boulevard in forked river, costs @ $8.00.
devildog posted 07-06-2004 10:07 AM ET (US)
Speedbump,
The first ramp you mentioned is the one I checked out last week. I think this is the the one I'll use. Should be a great day.
Jeff
TightPenny posted 07-07-2004 02:26 PM ET (US)
The other variation is "Shoes on the Beach"
Bigshot posted 07-07-2004 03:07 PM ET (US)
I was always told it was the shoes(and socks) on the beach. I have heard the other version as well. Bennies are supposably from the Philthadelphians:) who came to the Jersey shore via the Ben Franklin bridge...who knows.
When you grow up on the beach, you know who is and who is not a Benny. This is especialy true when a teenager & older because it is fresh meat that usually expires next saturday. Had to work fast before she went back to West Caldwell or wherever.
rtk posted 07-07-2004 03:20 PM ET (US)
Bigshot, you just brought back some great mammaries, or memories, I guess both. I was truly blessed growing up at the shore. : )
Rich
RMS posted 07-08-2004 12:45 PM ET (US)
Benny would be an acronym. Bayonne, Edison, Newark, New Yorkers. At least, that's what I've been told by other clamdiggers.
Bigshot posted 07-08-2004 02:10 PM ET (US)
Never heard that one...sounds fishy.
devildog posted 07-09-2004 04:24 PM ET (US)
Yeah man. A new crop every week. Then I married one. My wife was a shoobie from suburban Philly and rented my Dad's cottage. I happened to be down to Mom and Dad's on Vacation that week and saw this bikini clad beauty out on the deck. She mixed up mudslides all week with extra Smirnoff and next thing I know I have 3 kids, two dogs and a white colonial complete with picket fence.
Jeff
devildog posted 07-09-2004 04:32 PM ET (US)
That acronym sounds kinda familiar. I always thought of shoobies as South Jersey/Philly and Bennys as North Jersey/New York. Never heard of a Benny til I got older.
Sal A posted 07-11-2004 01:03 PM ET (US)
I have heard Benny refers to Bergen, Essex, Newark, and New York. I have also heard Barnegat Bay weekend summer boat traffic referred to as the "Newark Navy".
Cheers and looking forward to meeting all.
Sal
bkovak posted 07-14-2004 08:57 PM ET (US)
Devildog, where along the Delaware are you? I'm originally from Jersey. My parents still have a house in Tom's River. I'm in Bucks county by Newtown but still do most of my boating and fishing down the shore. I'll plan on hooking up with you guys for the Rendezvous at Tice's. Brian
devildog posted 07-14-2004 10:03 PM ET (US)
Brian,
I live in Riverton. 1 mile from Tacony-Palmyra Bridge. My wife is from Langhorne and we lived in Bensalem when we were first married. Looking forward to August 8.
Jeff Myers
Sal A posted 07-21-2004 06:11 AM ET (US)
A bump...
SpeedBump posted 07-21-2004 09:35 AM ET (US)
For those in the area on Saturday night August 7th the annual "Night Of Lights" will be held on Forked River. Forked River is on the west side of the bay across from Tices shoal, boats of all sizes and types decorate and parade from the Bay upto the State Marina and back out to the bay.
It is a nice event and a good viewing spot is from the cove at the mouth of the river at the bay. For those with larger Whalers intending to stayover on their boats the cove is a nice anchorage for mooring overnight. As well, there are numerous marinas with transient slips and a couple of nice on water restaurants with overnight slips on the River that are also excellent viewing spots.
Looking to meeting you all on the 8th.
Bigshot posted 07-22-2004 10:44 AM ET (US)
How long is everyone gonna be out there? I have to get my wife to the AC airport by about 1pm so not sure what the deal is.
devildog posted 07-22-2004 12:54 PM ET (US)
Someone said meet up about 11:00 but I'm pretty flexible. I kind of figured all day. Are you thinking of coming out after the airport or before?
Jeff
merc125 posted 07-22-2004 10:11 PM ET (US)
4 of 7 boats at the shoal this evening were whalers MartyD
Sal A posted 07-23-2004 08:50 AM ET (US)
I think a lot of us are planning on being around for a nice part of the day; I think 11am was thrown out there as Tices can fill up quickly on the weekends...
Looking forward to meeting everyone.
Sal
SpeedBump posted 07-23-2004 12:04 PM ET (US)
Any time of the day is OK with me. I'll be smack in the middle of a 2 week holiday at the shore and had planned on making the whole day available if the weather is good.
devildog posted 07-23-2004 05:42 PM ET (US)
Holiday? Is that like a vacation? ;)
SpeedBump posted 07-24-2004 10:08 AM ET (US)
It's better than a vacation !!!!!!
aubv posted 07-31-2004 09:56 AM ET (US)
Anybody have room for one more?
I'm sort of boatless in NJ. I can't get to Tice's on my own but do have Squall we could tow out.
Send me an e-mail so we can work out the details. aubv@aol.com
Thanks,
Brian
Swellmonster posted 08-04-2004 11:18 PM ET (US)
Further down South, another Nickism is `"See you next time" for the crabby gals..... :0
devildog posted 08-05-2004 04:46 PM ET (US)
Call U Next Tuesday
devildog posted 08-05-2004 04:49 PM ET (US)
How many are on? Not much chatter lately. I'll be there.
Jeff Myers
Cell# 609-513-0298
devildog posted 08-06-2004 04:17 PM ET (US)
I spoke too soon. Bad news for our family. My father-in-law's biopsy just came back positive for lung cancer. He's the healthiest, hardest working man I've ever known. Not sure how bad yet but they will operate next week. I won't attend this weekend, but you guys enjoy.
Jeff
SpeedBump posted 08-07-2004 09:49 PM ET (US)
Rather than anchoring in Tices on sunday I'll be anchored in the family cruiser on my way to Lincolnville Maine on the Penobscot Bay. At least that's where my better half said we are heading. Now my second week of a Holiday will become a vacation. For those that make it enjoy the Rendezvous.
Sal A posted 08-10-2004 12:50 PM ET (US)
Jeff... sorry to hear about your father-in-law. Will say a parayer for him.
Sal
devildog posted 08-11-2004 06:08 AM ET (US)
Thanks Sal
Bigshot posted 08-14-2004 10:51 AM ET (US)
Well I guess I not only get the furthest traveled but....the only one who showed up...in a Whaler none the less. Me and my bud took his 96 Outrage 17' out in not so nice conditions and cruised to Tice's with our 3 dogs. We cruised the scene and spotted approx. 5 Whalers but none rafted together. We anchored up in front of the deck there. I asked a guy in his 18' outrage bit he said no. Another guy had a new 295 Conquest but he knew nothing of it and another 170 Montuak had no occupants. We chilled for a few hours and let the dogs swim around and I guess we left around 2:30. On our way out there was a Dauntless and anoher Whaler rafted up but they did not wave so we just kept idling out to the channel. Had a nice time...water was a tad chilly(for my FL ass)....maybe next time kids.
TightPenny posted 08-16-2004 12:17 PM ET (US)
I guess that is why I didn't hear any chatter on the VHF.
After getting washed out from fishing that morning, literally, with about 3/4 gallon of water in the Tempo, I didn't get back in the water until around 2ish, after a lot of dewatering and such. You have to rotate the gasoline once in a while, don't you?
Took the wife crabbing at Governors Cove, and caught just enough to make a nice appetizer for dinner.

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Author	Topic: Barnegat Bay Tices Shoal 8/8/2004 (Sunday)
Sal A	posted 06-21-2004 05:44 AM ET (US) Gents and Ladies, Saturday or Sunday? August 7th or August 8th? I'd still like to meet other Whaler owners and see their crafts. Nick did you say you will be up 8/8 (Sunday) and 8/9 (Monday)? If so then I guess Sunday morning, 8/8/2004, makes sense? Maybe we can all meet at 10:30 or 11:00 am? Thoughts? Please weigh in if you can make it, your preferred day? if the timing makes sense? Looking forward to meeting you.
Bigshot	posted 06-21-2004 10:08 AM ET (US) Sunday sounds good to me.
rtk	posted 06-22-2004 08:26 PM ET (US) I have no plans for that weekend- either day sounds good to me. I would like to meet you all. Calendar is marked. Rich
Sal A	posted 06-22-2004 08:47 PM ET (US) I'll also buzz the guys at OBM Lanoka Harbor, Mark and Pete, as I don't know if they monitor here all the time. Looking foward to getting a nice group together and chewing the fat. Sal
Bigshot	posted 06-23-2004 01:11 PM ET (US) Who is leaving from Barnegat area? My parents moved to Barnegat so I might need to bum a ride if I can't borrow a boat, etc.
devildog	posted 06-24-2004 05:06 PM ET (US) I'm in for Sunday. Biggie, I have a friend who lives in Bayville so I thought I'd put in there somewhere. I can give you a ride. Jeff Myers
devildog	posted 06-25-2004 07:39 PM ET (US) Bueler?
bkovak	posted 06-25-2004 08:42 PM ET (US) Hey, count me in. My folks are in Toms River and I spend a lot of time fishing Barnegat Bay and Island beach (just got a 23 lb striper). I'll probably moor the Outrage there for the weekend. Tices shoal sounds great in August! Brian
Sal A	posted 06-27-2004 10:05 PM ET (US) Bump. And thanks Jeff for the mention in GAM; good idea.
devildog	posted 06-28-2004 01:28 PM ET (US) What's the best tide for Tice's? Who has a Barnegat bay tide table? Jeff
Bigshot	posted 06-28-2004 02:10 PM ET (US) http://www.saltwatertides.com/cgi-local/gulfcoast.cgi Hit the regios link and then NJ.
Bigshot	posted 06-28-2004 02:11 PM ET (US) Day High Tide Height Sunrise Moon Time % Moon /Low Time Feet Sunset Visible Su 8 High 2:12 AM 2.2 6:02 AM Set 2:33 PM 49 8 Low 8:27 AM 0.4 8:01 PM 8 High 2:41 PM 2.5 8 Low 9:33 PM 0.6
devildog	posted 06-29-2004 05:21 PM ET (US) Nick, I was down by your old stompin grounds today. There's a good ramp right by Forked River State Marina. Do you know of a better place to launch nearby. I'd rather not go onto LBI or Island Beach and deal with all the shoobs. Jeff
rtk	posted 06-29-2004 06:58 PM ET (US) Both Good Luck Point Marina and Ocean Gate Yacht Basin in Bayville have good ramps. They do not appear to be very busy on the weekend like some other launch areas. I think the fee is around $10. Ride to Tice's will only take about 15 minutes from there. Both of these marinas are off the beaten path- more locals around than shoobs. All along Bayview Avenue in Bayville there are alot of places to launch. There is a park at the entrance to Cedar Creek (I can't remember the name)- on that road there is an open area to the mouth of the creek where some people launch. I will be happy to compile a list of ramps in my area if anyone is interested, just let me know. Rich
Sal A	posted 06-30-2004 07:44 AM ET (US) Hey guys. I would call OBM in Lanoka Harbor. Decent chance Mark will let you guys launch from there, and it is right across the bay from Tices. Help a one time Bennie out; what is a shoob? Sal
Bigshot	posted 06-30-2004 10:50 AM ET (US) I know LBI and a few ramps in Manahawkin/barnegat. I kept my boat in the water behind a house for 28+ years so I did not do a lot of towing. I also know of 2 or 3 ramps on the Delaware river....about it.
devildog	posted 06-30-2004 08:52 PM ET (US) Sal, Further down South Jersey it's shoobies instead of Bennies. A common story says the name came from day trippers taking lunch to the beach in a shoe box. Now that I live up on the Delaware, my son and my Dad who both live in Sea Isle say I'm a shoobie. Jeff
SpeedBump	posted 07-05-2004 11:55 AM ET (US) Looking forward to August 8th. While the tides will be favorable that day it wouldn't pose much of a problem even at low tide. For those looking for a ramp, south of the state marina is a free ramp on Lake Side Drive south. it is east of Route 9 and puts you on Forked River. Once you break the mouth of the river you have a 12-15 min trip across the bay to Tices. there is also a nice ramp at the Lacey Elks on Beach Boulevard in forked river, costs @ $8.00.
devildog	posted 07-06-2004 10:07 AM ET (US) Speedbump, The first ramp you mentioned is the one I checked out last week. I think this is the the one I'll use. Should be a great day. Jeff
TightPenny	posted 07-07-2004 02:26 PM ET (US) The other variation is "Shoes on the Beach"
Bigshot	posted 07-07-2004 03:07 PM ET (US) I was always told it was the shoes(and socks) on the beach. I have heard the other version as well. Bennies are supposably from the Philthadelphians:) who came to the Jersey shore via the Ben Franklin bridge...who knows. When you grow up on the beach, you know who is and who is not a Benny. This is especialy true when a teenager & older because it is fresh meat that usually expires next saturday. Had to work fast before she went back to West Caldwell or wherever.
rtk	posted 07-07-2004 03:20 PM ET (US) Bigshot, you just brought back some great mammaries, or memories, I guess both. I was truly blessed growing up at the shore. : ) Rich
RMS	posted 07-08-2004 12:45 PM ET (US) Benny would be an acronym. Bayonne, Edison, Newark, New Yorkers. At least, that's what I've been told by other clamdiggers.
Bigshot	posted 07-08-2004 02:10 PM ET (US) Never heard that one...sounds fishy.
devildog	posted 07-09-2004 04:24 PM ET (US) Yeah man. A new crop every week. Then I married one. My wife was a shoobie from suburban Philly and rented my Dad's cottage. I happened to be down to Mom and Dad's on Vacation that week and saw this bikini clad beauty out on the deck. She mixed up mudslides all week with extra Smirnoff and next thing I know I have 3 kids, two dogs and a white colonial complete with picket fence. Jeff
devildog	posted 07-09-2004 04:32 PM ET (US) That acronym sounds kinda familiar. I always thought of shoobies as South Jersey/Philly and Bennys as North Jersey/New York. Never heard of a Benny til I got older.
Sal A	posted 07-11-2004 01:03 PM ET (US) I have heard Benny refers to Bergen, Essex, Newark, and New York. I have also heard Barnegat Bay weekend summer boat traffic referred to as the "Newark Navy". Cheers and looking forward to meeting all. Sal
bkovak	posted 07-14-2004 08:57 PM ET (US) Devildog, where along the Delaware are you? I'm originally from Jersey. My parents still have a house in Tom's River. I'm in Bucks county by Newtown but still do most of my boating and fishing down the shore. I'll plan on hooking up with you guys for the Rendezvous at Tice's. Brian
devildog	posted 07-14-2004 10:03 PM ET (US) Brian, I live in Riverton. 1 mile from Tacony-Palmyra Bridge. My wife is from Langhorne and we lived in Bensalem when we were first married. Looking forward to August 8. Jeff Myers
Sal A	posted 07-21-2004 06:11 AM ET (US) A bump...
SpeedBump	posted 07-21-2004 09:35 AM ET (US) For those in the area on Saturday night August 7th the annual "Night Of Lights" will be held on Forked River. Forked River is on the west side of the bay across from Tices shoal, boats of all sizes and types decorate and parade from the Bay upto the State Marina and back out to the bay. It is a nice event and a good viewing spot is from the cove at the mouth of the river at the bay. For those with larger Whalers intending to stayover on their boats the cove is a nice anchorage for mooring overnight. As well, there are numerous marinas with transient slips and a couple of nice on water restaurants with overnight slips on the River that are also excellent viewing spots. Looking to meeting you all on the 8th.
Bigshot	posted 07-22-2004 10:44 AM ET (US) How long is everyone gonna be out there? I have to get my wife to the AC airport by about 1pm so not sure what the deal is.
devildog	posted 07-22-2004 12:54 PM ET (US) Someone said meet up about 11:00 but I'm pretty flexible. I kind of figured all day. Are you thinking of coming out after the airport or before? Jeff
merc125	posted 07-22-2004 10:11 PM ET (US) 4 of 7 boats at the shoal this evening were whalers MartyD
Sal A	posted 07-23-2004 08:50 AM ET (US) I think a lot of us are planning on being around for a nice part of the day; I think 11am was thrown out there as Tices can fill up quickly on the weekends... Looking forward to meeting everyone. Sal
SpeedBump	posted 07-23-2004 12:04 PM ET (US) Any time of the day is OK with me. I'll be smack in the middle of a 2 week holiday at the shore and had planned on making the whole day available if the weather is good.
devildog	posted 07-23-2004 05:42 PM ET (US) Holiday? Is that like a vacation? ;)
SpeedBump	posted 07-24-2004 10:08 AM ET (US) It's better than a vacation !!!!!!
aubv	posted 07-31-2004 09:56 AM ET (US) Anybody have room for one more? I'm sort of boatless in NJ. I can't get to Tice's on my own but do have Squall we could tow out. Send me an e-mail so we can work out the details. aubv@aol.com Thanks, Brian
Swellmonster	posted 08-04-2004 11:18 PM ET (US) Further down South, another Nickism is `"See you next time" for the crabby gals..... :0
devildog	posted 08-05-2004 04:46 PM ET (US) Call U Next Tuesday
devildog	posted 08-05-2004 04:49 PM ET (US) How many are on? Not much chatter lately. I'll be there. Jeff Myers Cell# 609-513-0298
devildog	posted 08-06-2004 04:17 PM ET (US) I spoke too soon. Bad news for our family. My father-in-law's biopsy just came back positive for lung cancer. He's the healthiest, hardest working man I've ever known. Not sure how bad yet but they will operate next week. I won't attend this weekend, but you guys enjoy. Jeff
SpeedBump	posted 08-07-2004 09:49 PM ET (US) Rather than anchoring in Tices on sunday I'll be anchored in the family cruiser on my way to Lincolnville Maine on the Penobscot Bay. At least that's where my better half said we are heading. Now my second week of a Holiday will become a vacation. For those that make it enjoy the Rendezvous.
Sal A	posted 08-10-2004 12:50 PM ET (US) Jeff... sorry to hear about your father-in-law. Will say a parayer for him. Sal
devildog	posted 08-11-2004 06:08 AM ET (US) Thanks Sal
Bigshot	posted 08-14-2004 10:51 AM ET (US) Well I guess I not only get the furthest traveled but....the only one who showed up...in a Whaler none the less. Me and my bud took his 96 Outrage 17' out in not so nice conditions and cruised to Tice's with our 3 dogs. We cruised the scene and spotted approx. 5 Whalers but none rafted together. We anchored up in front of the deck there. I asked a guy in his 18' outrage bit he said no. Another guy had a new 295 Conquest but he knew nothing of it and another 170 Montuak had no occupants. We chilled for a few hours and let the dogs swim around and I guess we left around 2:30. On our way out there was a Dauntless and anoher Whaler rafted up but they did not wave so we just kept idling out to the channel. Had a nice time...water was a tad chilly(for my FL ass)....maybe next time kids.
TightPenny	posted 08-16-2004 12:17 PM ET (US) I guess that is why I didn't hear any chatter on the VHF. After getting washed out from fishing that morning, literally, with about 3/4 gallon of water in the Tempo, I didn't get back in the water until around 2ish, after a lot of dewatering and such. You have to rotate the gasoline once in a while, don't you? Took the wife crabbing at Governors Cove, and caught just enough to make a nice appetizer for dinner.