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JustinAndersen posted 11-30-2004 06:01 PM ET (US)   Profile for JustinAndersen   Send Email to JustinAndersen  
A fellow CW member and myself were kicking around the idea of doing the Boat Show and having some beers afterwards. What else is there to do in January in the sub-Arctic?

Anyone else interested?

jimh posted 11-30-2004 06:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
We attended the Toronto Boat Show several years ago. It was a great trip. We took the train from Windsor, had a great room at a downtown hotel, and used the shuttle bus service to go out to the boat show. The rates were very attractive--at the time US $1.00 = CA $1.56--so the prices of the hotel and restaurants, which were already a bargain, were even more so with the exchange rate factored in.

At the Toronto show you get to see some Canadian boat builders that don't come to the USA.

banff22 posted 11-30-2004 06:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
I'm not even the CW member he mentions but Justin emailed me about this an hour go and while I'm new to eastern Canada with a new 1984 22' Outrage---what the heck---I'm in!

Good thing I didn't get rid of all that warm mountain gear I own!

Peter
'don't drink & post'

Toba posted 12-01-2004 03:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for Toba  Send Email to Toba     
A US dollar now will buy you about $1.18 Canadian.
JustinAndersen posted 12-01-2004 09:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for JustinAndersen  Send Email to JustinAndersen     
Jimh, since then they have completely renovated most of the exhibit space and renamed it the National Trade Centre. Better lighting and less of a rabbit warren. You're right, there are typically a number of small Canadian boat companies at the show who appeal to those who like Whalers - purpose built craft like Limestones and Stanleys.

Toba (Andrew) - are you in?

I emailed Chuck Bennett and he advises that although there will be no factory BW representation both Mainland Marine and Gordon Bay will be there. I think I'll see about hitting them up for some swag.

Also, Toronto Police's Marine Unit might give us a tour their facility if we had the time. The have some pretty cool boats and there's some good bars in the vicinity.

kingfish posted 12-01-2004 10:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
So when is this event? And if a Michigan Yankee were able to manage the trip, would he be welcome? ;-)

We almost had a Stanley built for our smaller camp boat up in the North Channel a number of years ago, but wound up buying our first Boston Whaler (Montauk) instead. We see quite a number of Stanleys in different configurations around Little Current. And an occasional Rosborough.

andiamo posted 12-01-2004 11:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for andiamo  Send Email to andiamo     
Here is the link to the boat show page. Sorry I do not know how to make it a live link.

http://www.discoverboating.com/boatshows/toronto/index.asp?bhcp=1

Once we pick a date I will try and be there. I was suggesting in email say 2-5 on a weekday so that we can actually get to the reps, as I want to see about buying a new outboard (E-TEC 90 maybe)

JustinAndersen posted 12-01-2004 12:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for JustinAndersen  Send Email to JustinAndersen     
http://www.discoverboating.com/boatshows/toronto/index.asp?bhcp=1

Kingfish - Of course you would be most welcome. Why don't you come down in big vehicle and bring some of your fellow B.W.G.L.C.C. members with you?

Andiamo "Andrew" suggested we all play hooky and do it on a week day - so the crowds are less. Maybe the Friday afternoon, socialize afterwards and a tour of Marine Unit Saturday morning? Another possibility is that we do the "Preview Night" (which is the first Friday night) - it's C$75 but all the money goes to charity. All the boat manufacturers spring for booze and food and crowds are quite small. It's a lot of fun (I did it a few years back).
http://www.discoverboating.com/boatshows/toronto/charity.asp?user=0

home Aside posted 12-01-2004 06:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
I'll be watching this thread and if the timing is right, maybe I'll stick my thumb out on I-696 and see if I can catch a ride with Kingfish if he's inclined to make the trip...of course I could share gas expenses and hotel (if Katie's not joining him).....I know some fellows from the Toronto Metro PD I'd sure like to see their Marine Division facility...

Pat

andiamo posted 12-01-2004 09:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for andiamo  Send Email to andiamo     
Unfortunatly (not really as I am in the Caribbean) I will be away until Sun Jan 16. I did think that the charity night on the Friday sounded like a great idea and if I was in town would have suggested it. If you do go I see that you get a pass for any other day of the week.

Did the guys from BW suggest that they might be able to get us some free passes (maybe through their dealers) even if they are not there. Maybe they should send us some golf shirts or something so we can way can be good advertising as we walk through the show.

kingfish posted 12-02-2004 08:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Thanks Justin - if I can pull it off, I'd really enjoy seeing the show and meeting you guys. A Friday would be best for me as with the distance involved I could pull it off with only taking one day off work, and having Saturday and/or Sunday to get back home. The charity preview night would really appeal to me on the one hand, but on the other hand I'd enjoy meeting Andiamo too, so am ambivalent. Under any conditions, don't use my schedule to finalize plans; I'll try to keep up with things here, get dispensation from home, and fit in if I can.

Pat- let's stay in touch, see if any other interest from over here develops, and maybe we can do it. Chances of Katie being even remotely interested in a boat show with a bunch of my Whaler cronies are slim to none. Now an antique postcard show, well that would be a horse of a different color...

JustinAndersen posted 12-02-2004 09:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for JustinAndersen  Send Email to JustinAndersen     
I've always heard that the best time to do a deal on a new boat or motor is an hour before the show is over on the last day. A buddy of mine bought a Yammy for a great price this way. Of course, if business has been excellent I'm sure the dealers won't be too enthusiastic but in that kind of environment they're always disappointed, no matter how many deals they've done, as they get themselves overhyped.

That said, it would make sense to skip the charity Preview Night and go the following Friday. That way if any of us are intrigued enough to buy anything (Andrew Diamond will be tire kicking around the Evinrude exhibit...) we would probably get a better deal than earlier in the show or before the show even officially begins.

Further, it looks like it's a better date for some.

Should we firm this up? Friday, January 21st?

kingfish posted 12-02-2004 11:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
I'm going to try for it; until and unless I hear differently here, that's the date I'll be working on and I'll report back in here...(Pat-?)
kingfish posted 12-02-2004 08:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
I've got dispensation, and Katie isn't interested in coming along, so I'll just watch here for further developments. If it does come together for the 21st, I may try to get part way Thursday night (Detroit/Windsor or Port Huron/Sarnia +/-)and complete the run in a liesurely fashion on Friday morning. Depending on how plans come together for the Toronto Police Marine Unit visit, I may aim at the return trip on Saturday, or part Sat. night and part Sunday morning. I'm still flexible though.
JustinAndersen posted 12-03-2004 08:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for JustinAndersen  Send Email to JustinAndersen     
Kingfish: That's great. Look forward to meeting with you. I'll speak with the Police about a tour on Saturday morning.
andiamo posted 12-03-2004 11:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for andiamo  Send Email to andiamo     
Justin:

Not sure I want to make a "date" with you after that cross dressing post of yours lol.

21st in penciled in.

Regards

Andrew

andiamo posted 12-06-2004 08:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for andiamo  Send Email to andiamo     
Justin:

Any word from Boston Whaler about SWAG and passes?

banff22 posted 12-06-2004 09:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
Justin,
Rememeber we just had a 140,000 sq ft Bass Pro open close to us. The first in Canada. Seems they are on bit of marketing bandwagon with cash to burn and although not a Whaler dealer they may be interested in getting involved.

Peter

kingfish posted 12-06-2004 10:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Looking forward to meeting up with you guys - If Pat doesn't chime in here shortly I'll give him a bump, and I'll chat up the BWGLCC to see if anyone else can get away to join us.

John

JustinAndersen posted 12-10-2004 09:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for JustinAndersen  Send Email to JustinAndersen     
Sorry gentlemen, I should be paying more attention to my own thread. I've been incredibly busy as of late.

My sole email to Chuck Bennett at BW was to find out if there was going to be any factory representation at the show and it turns out there won't be. After all, BW has never been that excited about marketing their products in Canada. Chuck did advise, however, that both Mainland Marine and Gordon Bay Marine will be manning the BW display.

Last week, in the process of purchasing a 9.9 Merc for my Sister's family for Christmas I spoke with sales reps at both Mainland and Gordon Bay and disappointingly, neither had any interest whatsoever in either providing us with passes or with any swag (ie hats, t-shirts etc). And believe, me, I can be pretty persuasive. Partly as a result, I ended up buying the motor locally. As attempt no. 2, I'm going to send emails to the sales managers of both dealers today.

Peter - would you want to try to coax something out of BassPro? They probably wouldn't be too excited talking to me considering I live an hour and a half away.

Kingfish, definitely try to get some of the other BWGLCC folks out. The more the merrier.

banff22 posted 12-10-2004 12:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
Hmmmm

Bass Pro ? Yes, we're holding an International Boston Whaler Fishing Rendevous to co-ordindate with the Toronto International Boat Show in January and we thought that since we all shop exclusively at the Bass Pro's all over North America, and since you've just opened your first venture in Canada, you would like to be involved.

Is Tuesday or Wednesday a good time to stop by and discuss what we can put together?


Let me work on this Justin.

JustinAndersen posted 12-10-2004 01:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for JustinAndersen  Send Email to JustinAndersen     
Peter - you sound almost as persuasive as I can be... Good luck!

How about that Yuletide boat ride?

banff22 posted 12-10-2004 01:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
I'm on hold in answering. Waiting to find out if I have to go to Ottawa and drive right by your place. Give me a few days with the holiday planning.

Peter

home Aside posted 12-11-2004 02:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
Hi Fellow Whalerer's
Sorry I haven't been around, My 81 year old father had total knee replacement on last Tuesday, and then promptly fell and broke his leg above the new knee on Wednesday, and had to have additional surgery again on Thursday, so I've been up North at my parents place ferrying my mom back and forth to the hospital. Anyway, depending on my Dad's condition and my work schedule I'm still looking hard at going

Kingfish,
I'm still looking at my schedule and would really like to do the trip. Is it still set for Jan 21st or there abouts ? I'll re-read the thread and give you a bump.
As ususal I'm not going to know what days I have off in January until close to the end of December...

Pat

banff22 posted 12-11-2004 06:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
I spent 4 hours at Bass Pro this afternoon. My first time in one of these stores, don't forget it's the first in Canada and it's only been open since Nov, it was quite the experience. I found all kinds of things I'm looking for, for next season. Another story.

But in relation to this thread, I had no idea the owners of Bass Pro also own Tracker and are distributers of boats like Nitro. They have 4 service bays to work on boats and I chatted with the serice Manager, but at the moment they only work on the boats they've sold or the same type. As A result he doubted they would participate in a Whaler function at this time. Although I must admit he was impressed I had an '84 - 22' Outrage!

I'll follow up but I doubt I'll get anywhere with this idea.

Peter

djahncke posted 12-11-2004 08:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for djahncke  Send Email to djahncke     

Kingfish and home Aside, I'd like to join in on this adventure if you don't mind. I do need to be back home on Saturday the 22nd as that is my son's 16th birthday and I would be in major hot water if I missed it.

I have made a reservation at the Westin for Friday night. If you make your reservation before December 17th you can get the Boat Show rate of $69 Cdn a night.

-Don

JustinAndersen posted 12-12-2004 02:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for JustinAndersen  Send Email to JustinAndersen     
Peter: Too bad about BassPro. I went to RadioWorld yesterday and picked up that Garmin MAP76CS we were talking about. I'm just about to pull it out of the box and load in MetroGuide Canada and BlueChart!

Home Aside: I'm awfully sorry to hear about your Dad. Here's hoping that you can make it and your Dad has a quick and full recovery.

djahncke: Welcome! Toronto has two Westins - the Prince and the Harbour Castle. Here's hoping you're at the HC as the view of the Toronto Harbour and the Islands is great and you are right in the middle of the action in terms of the Boat Show and festivities. In fact, I'm thinking about staying there myself. If you're at the Prince you will be at a nice hotel (with one of Toronto's best Japanese restaurants, the Katsura) but you will be out in the suburbs with at least a half hour drive or so to get to the Boat Show.

banff22 posted 12-12-2004 04:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
I'm a little confused. Nothing new.

Which nights are we booking rooms for?
The evening of the 20th and the 21st ?

Peter

kingfish posted 12-12-2004 05:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Hi Don (and Pat)-

Peter, I've been planning on doing the boat show Friday afternoon/evening (is that right Justin?) and the Toronto Marine Police Saturday sometime, if things work out so we can do that.

I've booked the Westin Harbor Castle (Boat Show Special) now also - thanks for the heads-up, Don. I'm booked for Friday and Sat. nights Jan. 21 and 22. I'll be taking Friday off but possibly heading out from Battle Creek Thursday, spending Thurs. night somewhere along the way to break up the trip so I'm not driving 360+ miles and doing the boat show all in one day. I'm going to let things settle out for a while before I decide finally when I'm coming home and whether I'm going to do it in one shot or not. I can cancel my Sat. night reservations until 1/19 if I decide to break the return trip up, though I'm currently leaning towards getting a good nights sleep in Toronto Saturday night and hitting the road Sunday morning.

John

kingfish posted 12-12-2004 05:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
I just realized what kind of a deal those room rates at the Westin are - Yahoo travel is posting a rate currently of $134.00 US, and the boat show special translztes to about $55.00 US!! That's a h*ll of a deal!
andiamo posted 12-12-2004 11:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for andiamo  Send Email to andiamo     
Don and the rest of the Michigan crew, another option to think about is the train. There are two trains from Windsor to Toronto on the morning of Jan 21. The first leaves at 6 am and gets to Toronto at 10 am and the second leaves Windsor at 9:55 am and gets into Toronto at 1:37.

Similiarly, Don if you grab a lift down with one of the other guys there is a train that leaves Toronto at 7:15 pm and gets into Windsor at 11 pm. Or if you want to stay over, there are trains from Toronto to Windsor on Saturday morning at 7:50 am and Noon with travel times of 3:45 and you can get home for your sons birthday. Or better still bring him for a father and son weekend as his gift.

The train is relaxing, have some food make some calls get some sleep or a drink.

The fare is about $70 Canadian one way

JustinAndersen posted 12-13-2004 10:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for JustinAndersen  Send Email to JustinAndersen     
It looks like we're doing the boat show on the 21st staying over [that night] and touring the Marine Unit on the 22nd.

I forgot to mention that the Harbour Castle is very close to the Marine Unit. Further, it's also very close to Toronto's downtown train station (Union Station) - easy walking distance if the weather is good.

banff22 posted 12-13-2004 11:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
Booked.

Which launch ramp are we using ?

Peter

home Aside posted 12-13-2004 08:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
I'm in, as of now though I have to be back for work at 11PM on Jan 22nd, I won't know if I can get that night off until after XMAS.

Kingfish & Djanhke....you have e-mail re: ride/room sharing (if you can take the snoring.....LHG & Susan made the mistake of docking across from me in Kilarney on the BWGLCC North Channel/Georgian Bay trip.....Larry made no bones about the fact that I can saw some timber, of course there wasn't much dew left on my Mills Canvas in the morning either.....sorry again Larry)

I'll keep watching,

Pat

home Aside posted 12-27-2004 10:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
bump
jeffs22outrage posted 12-29-2004 04:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for jeffs22outrage  Send Email to jeffs22outrage     
To those from this site who are attending the Toronto Boat Show, Could you please inquire to dealers about the process Americans could go through to purchase a new outboard and have it rigged in Canada to save money.

There are a couple guys here at my work who did this 2 years ago and claimed to have saved thousands. Of course the US dollar at the time was worth 1.53 Canadian...

Thanks, Enjoy the Toronto!

banff22 posted 12-29-2004 06:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
Jeff,
1.53? Yikes. Todays market close was 82.3 I think. Which is the reason you may not win this one.

If you would provide much more detail, i.e. what motor, what rigging, on what boat of what you want I could easily obtain a quotation. Any time, not neccessarily at boat show time.

Peter

kingfish posted 12-30-2004 10:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Peter-

$0.83 US = $1.00 CAN, or as compared with Jeff's ratio, $1.00 US = $1.21 CAN.

John

banff22 posted 01-03-2005 09:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
You're right John,
Unfortunately I was in a hurry to get north for the weekend when I wrote that and didn't take the time. The .83 is how it is presented to us in Canada via the financial media. So we've been brainwashed to only think this way!

Peter

kingfish posted 01-03-2005 09:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Hey, it's your native country, certainly your right to look at it from your perspective! I just thought there might be a misunderstanding possible...

Looking forward to getting together with you guys.

John

banff22 posted 01-03-2005 11:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
Heh, heh, Oh I think I could have created lots of confusion. A little proof reading and a little thinking helps I find!

It is my native country John, and if I want to be brainwashed I'll darn well buy local.;-)

I look forward to meeting everyone in a few weeks.

Peter

I really have to start using those little faces more often. I notice no one even commented on my post here about "which launch ramp" we're using. Think about it, January, in Canada? I think it's something about sick Canadian humour that doesn't translate to the written word very well.
PD.

kingfish posted 01-16-2005 06:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Time to bring this back up I think-

I have my reservations at the Westin Harbor Castle for Friday and Saturday nights, and at the Chipican Motel (?) in Sarnia for this Thursday night, on the first leg of the trip over.

A close family member is suffering with an extreme health problem that will become critical in the next three weeks or so and could do so virtually any day. I am only bringing that up to indicate that I will have to keep my cell phone close and whenever it happens I will have to drop whatever I'm doing wherever I am and head for Chicago. In one very large way we wish it will happen right away, and certainly in another more selfish way I hope it doesn't happen until after the weekend. Just have to see what the days ahead will bring.

Pat, I don't know if, given the uncertainty of my schedule, it makes sense for you and I to hook up or not - give me a bump.

How and where shall we meet in Toronto? I'm ready to go to a boatshow!!

John

banff22 posted 01-16-2005 07:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
I just logged on for the same reason. I spoke with Justin briefly late Friday about this. Where should we meet?

I too am booked in to the Westion for Friday & Saturday but I live barely an hour away. What time on Fri or Sat are people arriving? It sounds like John will be here late morning to midday Friday but what about the others. My intent was to attend the show Friday then head for the hotel. Possibly we could set a time to meet at the hotel lobby lounge around 5 or 6?, have a few drinks then dinner together.

I know Justin is unable to make it until later Friday evening (9:00pm ish)

Perhaps a roll call with approx. time of arrival is in order.

Regards,

Peter

dfmcintyre posted 01-16-2005 10:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
Kingfish -

Please dime me @ 810-459-0149. Thanks

Dmac

andiamo posted 01-17-2005 09:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for andiamo  Send Email to andiamo     
I was always intending to go the show on Friday afternoon. I believe it opens at noon.

If there are others that have the same schedule perhaps the most appropriate thing to do is meet at the B.W. display at a set hour.

banff22 posted 01-17-2005 10:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
Sounds good to me. I'm planning to be there Friday noon as well.

Anyone else? home Aside? djahncke? dfmcintyre?

Regards,
Peter

Show hours:
Week Days Noon to 9:00pm
Weekends 10:00am to 6:00pm

banff22 posted 01-17-2005 10:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
And toba too?
I just noticed your email is sympatico so I assume that's London, ON?

P

kingfish posted 01-17-2005 10:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
I would imagine I'll be getting into Toronto by mid to late morning on Friday. I think check in time at the hotel is 3:00 so I'm going to call and see what if any the chances are for early check in, just to get that out of the way. Either way, I think I could be ready for the boat show by noon or any time thereafter.

John

JustinAndersen posted 01-17-2005 03:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for JustinAndersen  Send Email to JustinAndersen     
Hello Folks:

The lounge (aptly named The Chart Room) at the Westin Harbour Castle may be a good spot to meet. Any thoughts on time?

The Toronto Police's Marine Unit is expecting all who care to join at 10am Saturday morning.

Very close by is a great boat book store (for those who didn't blow all their cash at the Boat Show - new Verados anyone?) named the Nautical Mind.

kingfish posted 01-17-2005 03:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Is the neighborhood where the Westin Harbour Castle resides in or near the (or "a") theatre district? Where there's a row of theatres on one side of the street, and a row of small restaurants catering to the theatre crowd on the other side?
andiamo posted 01-17-2005 04:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for andiamo  Send Email to andiamo     
Boston Whaler booth at noon next the Montauk if there is one.
banff22 posted 01-17-2005 06:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
The BW Inc. booth is front and center, a few degrees to the east as you enter the the main front doors of the pavillion.

My description: old, tall 6'2", balding, very grey,not white yet, beard. Local cell phone (416) 561-3891, toll free cell (800) 299-4055, North America wide.

John,
My last experience at this hotel, 4 years ago, does not bring a theatre district to mind, in fact it's a small hike in bitter cold to anything as I recall. But I'll check up on that with the locals I know. Anything in particular you are looking for?

Peter

banff22 posted 01-17-2005 06:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
John,
The theatre district is considered to be King Street, an easy 45 to 60 minute walk at minus 18C tonight. A cab may be better.
The hotel is south of Lakeshore Blvd and the Gardiner Expressway on the water front. Downtown TO is north. That being said, there are some some wonderful restaurants along the Quay and the water front close by. Depends on what you are looking for.

Or so my theatre going sister, who lives down there, says. Again, let me know what it is you are after. Theatre or food or both. I've not checked the theatre/play listings but it's easy to find out.

Peter

kingfish posted 01-17-2005 07:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Thanks Peter-

My wife was describing some restaurants that caught her attention the last time she visited Toronto, on a theatre trip with her sister, I think. I'm in enough trouble as it is, going to Toronto without her; if I saw a show while I was there, I'd be in trouble until Christmas. Restaurants without her are OK; theatres are not. (I asked her to go along, but boat shows are not her thing.)

The first trip Katie and I took together shortly after we met was to Toronto for Thanksgiving. We had a *wonderful* Thanksgiving dinner at the Westbury Hotel if memory serves (writing this, I'm not sure I know why there was Thanksgiving dinner available in Canada for an American holiday, but there was). It seems like the CNN tower was not quite complete and Eaton Place was a hole in the ground that took up two entire city blocks. Toronto struck us as the most cosmopolitan city we had ever seen; I think it still holds that spot. I have never seen so many women, particularly young women, wearing furs.

Anyway, thanks for checking thing out.

So Justin - are you thinking of hitting the boat show Saturday afternoon? You can't get in until 9:00 Friday night?. Maybe some of us can circle back with you on Saturday.

I'm good for the Marine Unit on Saturday at 10, and I can do the boat show Friday at noon if that's what the rest of the gang wants to do. I have to stick pretty close to a 6:00 dinner schedule (and a 12:00 lunch for that matter) being diabetic, but a meet at the Chart Room after dinner on Friday when Justin comes in seems like a good idea, and maybe we can get together for breakfast somewhere Saturday morning before visiting the Marine Unit?? I'm pretty much open.

John

banff22 posted 01-17-2005 08:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
I'm a little unclear here because so far, myself, andiamo and John are the only folks that have confirmed to be at the show for Friday afternoon. Where the heck are the others?

That said, I will be at the BW booth Friday at 12:00pm, opening time, beside the Montauk, assuming there is one, wearing a continuouswave t-shirt to be safe. You have my cellphone #. If John's face has not had an accident involving a razor I should recognize him from his website pictures.

A prompt 12:00 lunch and 6:00pm dinner should be easy to do on both Friday & Saturday, especially if Mr. Molson is attending. I'm not familair with the quality of food there (their?) so John may wish to be a little late.

Justin is trying his best to avoid his early Friday evening commitment. He'll let me know his whereabouts enroute.

Saturday breakfast at 8:00am in the hotel should be about right. The Marine Unit is very close by for 10:00am.(next door I think). I can hardly wait for this, haven't been there since I was a kid.

I've been to the Chart Room at the hotel on an ATAC convention a few years ago and it's(its?) a fine place to meet anytime as I recall.

Can't think of anything else at the moment. For those that may be last minute, have questions or need to chat I suggest you make use of my toll free. It's only 2 or 3 cents a minute, even from the States, so don't worry about it. It goes to my office then cell when I'm out. 24/7

Peter

Jeez John, CN Tower not quite complete, Eaton Centre a hole in the ground? I hazard to guess our hotel is 'in' Lake Ontario relative to those years.

kingfish posted 01-17-2005 10:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Ha! It's funny when one of those things happen - haven't thought about that trip in quite a while; now I know why. It's *been* quite a while!

I'll email Don and Pat directly and see what's up with them-

John

home Aside posted 01-18-2005 07:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
Hello All,
I know this is late notice and I apologize, but parental Hockey duties involving two son's and only one wife who says it's impossible to be in several places at one time equates to me being a Hockey Dad this weekend instead of a Toronto Boat Show Guy. I hope you all enjoy yourselves, take some photo's.....

Pat

djahncke posted 01-18-2005 07:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for djahncke  Send Email to djahncke     

With HomeAside dropping out I'll be driving solo, but I'm still coming. I plan to leave after I drop my son off at school which translates to a 7:30 departure. My guess is that will put me in Toronto just about if I make good time. That might be a little to tight for me to make the noon meeting time.

Peter, when I arrive at the Boat Show I call you on your cell phone to figure out where to hookup with the group.

I can be reached on my cell phone (248-342-3016).

Looking forward seeing some old friends and meeting some new ones.

-Don

kingfish posted 01-18-2005 07:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Fair dinkum, Don-

My cell # is: 269-967-7940 and my Onstar # is: 269-986-5139.

banff22 posted 01-18-2005 09:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
The show opens at noon and I have a major research/shopping project still underway so I will be there at noon anyway.(I'm packing extra credit cards;-))

My personal description plus the t-shirt should serve as a 'beacon' as I planned it to be.

You have the numbers. I've researched the restaurants so I look forward to meeting everyone.

Safe driving.

Peter

andiamo posted 01-18-2005 09:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for andiamo  Send Email to andiamo     
Any help you all can give me on trying to figure out which motor to buy for my 86 Montauk will be greatly appreciated

See you all Friday.

I too am 6 ft 3 brown hair (with some grey) probably be in jeans and a golf shirt.

There is underground parking and one can leave your coat in the car.

banff22 posted 01-18-2005 10:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
There's underground parking at the Ex !?!?
Suddenly I feel very old and lost.

Peter

banff22 posted 01-19-2005 08:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
Andrew,
I honestly thought you were pulling my leg about underground parking so I checked first thing this morning.

You are correct. There is underground parking down there.

Peter

kingfish posted 01-19-2005 08:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Andrew-

I've got the answer to your question all figured out - I'll pass it on when we meet up-

And for the rest of you (besides Don, who knows me, and Peter, who's been peeking) I'm 5'-6", a svelte 195 pounds, gray/white hair and beard, rimless glasses. I'll have on a Whaler hat and probably a ContinuousWave T-shirt. If it's not too cold in the garage under the Ex.

John

kingfish posted 01-20-2005 10:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
1. Sounds like we'll be seeing Don McIntyre.
2. Change my OnStar # to: 269-986-5039 (thanks, Don).

John

JustinAndersen posted 01-20-2005 02:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for JustinAndersen  Send Email to JustinAndersen     
Well, it's been confirmed. I am absolutely unable to get out of my other commitment for tomorrow afternoon/evening. I'm on the Board of Directors of our local Chamber of Commerce and tomorrow night is our AGM, complete with elections and other formal BS. I plan, however, to skip the "gala dinner" (crap) and the awards ceremonies (patronizing crap). I will be on the road by 6:15 and, weather permitting, will be in the vicinity by 7:30. I will be calling Peter (banff22) to locate you all.

After the Marine Unit visit I'm up for pretty much anything.

As Peter stated, the Harbour Castle is somewhat isolated but is very close to the Marine Unit and obviously the Harbour. All of Toronto's downtown attractions are a quick cab ride away or a nice walk any time of year other than January.

The "CNN" Tower is actually the "CN" Tower, named after Canada's Canadian National Railway company and as the world's second tallest freestanding structure (it got beat out by a Malaysian interloper a few years back) is a pretty neat place to visit on a clear day. It's very close by and could be a possibile something to do after the Marine Unit. And Peter, don't worry, there's a bar at the top.

kingfish posted 01-20-2005 04:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
"CNN" Tower - sheesh!!

Not only did I know that (apparently in a former life!), but have joked for years about a fishing lure some old Canadian salts told me about when nothing else works: a "CNR Wobbler" which is a stick of dynamite thrown into the water so fish that float to the surface can be collected. Apparently developed along the way when CNR was blasting rocks to lay railbeds near water.

Good catch, Justin - sorry for the inadvertant misinformation, and thanks for the clarification.

John

andiamo posted 01-21-2005 10:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for andiamo  Send Email to andiamo     
see you all at noon
banff22 posted 01-21-2005 10:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
I'm very excited I agreed to wear my continuouswave t-shirt today when it's minus 35C this morning!

pd

andiamo posted 01-21-2005 04:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for andiamo  Send Email to andiamo     
Great meeting all of you. Sorry we got separated, I was chatting with a long lost sailing friend and I turned around and well so be it.

Hope you had a great time

Regards

Andrew

banff22 posted 01-24-2005 09:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
I was great meeting everyone.
It's good to be able put a face to some names now. JustinAnderson, djahncke, dfmcintyre, andiamo and kingfish.

Thanks Justin for organizing the Toronto Habour Police tour.

Can't say I enjoyed the weather. A large water main finally broke Sunday morning in Toronto, then they had to shut down power in that area to repair it. Can't imagine what it was like for those people to be without water and power at minus 31C (with windchill) All highways in the area closed at some point on Sunday due to accidents. Drifts were 2-3 feet in my driveway when I returned home and my wife couldn't open the garage door let alone get out.
I was very popular upon my return.

Hope everyone made it to their respective homes safe & sound.

Regards,
Peter

Boat Show purchase: 2 life jackets.

kingfish posted 01-24-2005 09:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Just a short note to express my appreciation to Andrew, Peter and Justin for their hospitality; I had a great time, it was a great big boat show, the visit to the Toronto Marine Police Unit was worth the trip in itself, and finally, spending time with and getting to know some new friends across the border really rounded out the experience. It was good to see both Don Jahncke and Don McIntyre as usual, and thanks Don M. for letting me ride in your wake on the leg from Sarnia to Toronto.

Andrew, believe it or not, we tried to find you - we knew we got separated around the big sailboats, and we waited for a while then circled the sailboats again looking for you. We must have been just ahead or just behind one another. Sorry we didn't get the chance to spend more time together.

It turned out to be about a relatively uneventful 6-1/2 hour drive home for me, not bad for 370 miles in that weather, except I went through *over 3 gallons* of windshield wiper solvent on the way. The sky was clear except for the area around Sarnia and Port Huron at the foot of Lake Huron where there was considerable lake-effect snow falling. Temps ranged from -4° F outside Toronto to about +14° F at home. It was a little slippery leaving Toronto, and I did see some cars in the ditch, but Peter called me later on and said that shortly after I left some major East-West routes were closed down due to black ice and chain accidents, so I guess it was good I didn't leave any later.

Thanks again guys; I hope I get the opportunity to return the hospitality-

John

jimh posted 01-27-2005 02:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I am truly sorry I missed this rendezvous, but we had prior commitments to travel last weekend. But glad to hear a few folks made it. There was one heck of a snow fall on Saturday (Jan. 22), and that might have discouraged some. Maybe we can do this again, next year!
dfmcintyre posted 01-27-2005 08:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
Yea...........lemme tell you about the snow storm. I _had_ to get back Saturday afternoon. Left about noon, got to PHN at about 4:30PM. Normal trip is 2:35-2:40

Whew!

Dmac

Had a great time though.

JustinAndersen posted 01-30-2005 09:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for JustinAndersen  Send Email to JustinAndersen     
That bug I got over the weekend got worse and this is my first day back at the office - I was off sick all week and this is my first crack at a computer since.

At least I got to figure out the handheld VHF/GPS gizmo I bought at the show with all my downtime.

I'm going to get a couple of CW t-shirts for the boys at the Marine Unit.

Good seeing you all.

kingfish posted 01-31-2005 08:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Justin-

Let me know when you've made arrangements for the shirts and have the costs totalled - I'd like to contribute to the cause...

John

banff22 posted 01-31-2005 10:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for banff22  Send Email to banff22     
Me too.

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