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Estero posted 06-20-2005 11:04 PM ET (US)
Hey all-
I'm taking the Whaler to Catalina for a week in August, departing from Cabrillo Marina (San Pedro). Any opinions on how secure (or unsecure) the parking lot is there? I wasn't planning on leaving stuff in the back of the pickup or anything, but I'm wondering if I need to be concerned about the cab getting broken into.
On another matter, is it likely that the lot could be full? I'll be leaving early Monday morning, so I'd think that would be less crowded than a weekend, but I just don't know the marina that well.
Thanks in advance-
Tim
WellFairFisherman posted 06-23-2005 07:34 AM ET (US)
Tim.....I've heard some bad things about that ramp.
It actually got so bad that they started closing it at 10P.M...And opening up in the morning.
I use South Shores(by the Queen Mary) and Davies (2nd St). all the time and feel really safe...
I've only had 1 incident where someone tried to pry my window open and they didn't get in.
I prefer the South shores ramp because its usually not as crowded and they have a free washdown......Catch a few nice ones for me.....Warren
mikeyairtime posted 06-24-2005 01:17 PM ET (US)
I use Cabrillo all the time. I used to fish commercial lobsters off a trailer boat and have launched there a zillion times. Several years ago someone took one of my tail lights off my old truck. That's the only problem I've ever had. It's hardly ever crowded anymore. I drove right in on Saturday morning of Memorial day weekend and parked on the front row. I've left my truck there for as long as 7 days with no problem but I don't take my nice new diesel pickup to any of the local ramps, I use the wifes Nissan Crew Cab for local runs in my 170. I think they closed Cabrillo at night because people were partying on the beach and breakwall, not because of any specific ramp related problem. If I was doing a multi day I'd opt for Cabrillo over Long Beach. That's what most of the commercial lobster and urchin opperators do. I do use South Shores when I leave early.
mikeyairtime posted 06-24-2005 01:28 PM ET (US)
BTW, if you have any questions feel free to email me. I run charter boats in LA Harbor and around Catalina.
Estero posted 06-24-2005 01:55 PM ET (US)
Thanks for those replies-
I'll probably go with the launch from Cabrillo, since it shaves a couple of miles off the trip to the isthmus. My truck is an old F150, so hopefully it won't be too tempting for a break-in. I'll have to be sure to let it get nice and dirty before I take it down there.
Mr. Airtime, I may check with you later in July to see what the bite is like.
Tim
ledfoot posted 06-24-2005 04:58 PM ET (US)
You may want to drive the rig around the corner to Cabrillo Marina, and leave the rig either in the hotel lot or one of the marina lots. I'm not sure I'd want to leave it out there that long at the Cabrillo ramp.
-Jeff
mikeyairtime posted 06-25-2005 12:21 AM ET (US)
I did a search and found a neighborhood crime profile website. Bottom line is Cabrillo, 2nd Street and South Shores all rate equally bad for property crimes. They're all lousy areas.
WellFairFisherman posted 07-03-2005 03:13 AM ET (US)
Hey Mikey.....Got any of those old lobster spots you would like to share???....I know of the hard bottom spots inside the V but they threw us out of there last season.....
Its hard finding spots that are accesable with a small boat......Warren
mikeyairtime posted 07-04-2005 07:11 PM ET (US)
The spots that fish the best and are legal are inside the Santa Monica Bay but the water quality is bad. If you draw a line from Rocky Point to Malibu Point the whole area inside of the line is closed to commercial lobstering. Early in the season before any weather hits fish shallow. As the winter storms hit they move deep. When your trying to find them try different depths. You don't need to be right on the structure, just near it. The break walls all fish well early in the season but can get crowded now that hoop netting has been discovered. If you're too tight to the break walls be prepared to loose some hoop nets. If you're too close as soon as you put the nets down they start getting pulled into shore. Set your hoop nets up so that you can add extra shots of line and don't be afraid to try the deeper offshore artificial reefs. That's where the quality bugs are. In my experience Catalina island usually doesn't fish as well.
WellFairFisherman posted 07-06-2005 09:25 PM ET (US)
"Right On"....Thanks for the tips....I started hoopin 2 weeks before the end of the season.
Did pretty well but was thrown out of the spots that the coasties said were legal. Can't wait till the opener..Hopefully my 13whaler will make pulls easier than my 12 foot aluminum.......Warren

Hey Tim....How was your trip???...Did you get into the yellows???
marc monreal posted 07-12-2005 10:58 AM ET (US)

I live a couple of blocks away from the beach, "Pt. Fermin area" and launch my Montauk their on a regular basis. I have never had any problems with the ramp or any issues with vandalisim. In the last fifteen years I have only witnessed a couple of incidents and those were with guys who had triple axle trailers and big off shore speed boats. At extreme low tide the ramp isn't long enough to handle these big trailers as it drops off. I have had good luck with finding bugs on the back side of the West end.
Hope this helps, Marc
Estero posted 07-16-2005 09:40 PM ET (US)
WellFair,
I haven't gone yet, trip isn't until the first week of August. Hope to get yellow or two, but if not, calicos will do. I'm mostly looking forward to being in water that's warm enough to swim in without a wetsuit.
Thanks for the other replies with the information about Cabrillo, sounds like it's no worse than any other urban ramp.
Tim

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Author	Topic: Long-Term Parking at Cabrillo Marina-Secure?
Estero	posted 06-20-2005 11:04 PM ET (US) Hey all- I'm taking the Whaler to Catalina for a week in August, departing from Cabrillo Marina (San Pedro). Any opinions on how secure (or unsecure) the parking lot is there? I wasn't planning on leaving stuff in the back of the pickup or anything, but I'm wondering if I need to be concerned about the cab getting broken into. On another matter, is it likely that the lot could be full? I'll be leaving early Monday morning, so I'd think that would be less crowded than a weekend, but I just don't know the marina that well. Thanks in advance- Tim
WellFairFisherman	posted 06-23-2005 07:34 AM ET (US) Tim.....I've heard some bad things about that ramp. It actually got so bad that they started closing it at 10P.M...And opening up in the morning. I use South Shores(by the Queen Mary) and Davies (2nd St). all the time and feel really safe... I've only had 1 incident where someone tried to pry my window open and they didn't get in. I prefer the South shores ramp because its usually not as crowded and they have a free washdown......Catch a few nice ones for me.....Warren
mikeyairtime	posted 06-24-2005 01:17 PM ET (US) I use Cabrillo all the time. I used to fish commercial lobsters off a trailer boat and have launched there a zillion times. Several years ago someone took one of my tail lights off my old truck. That's the only problem I've ever had. It's hardly ever crowded anymore. I drove right in on Saturday morning of Memorial day weekend and parked on the front row. I've left my truck there for as long as 7 days with no problem but I don't take my nice new diesel pickup to any of the local ramps, I use the wifes Nissan Crew Cab for local runs in my 170. I think they closed Cabrillo at night because people were partying on the beach and breakwall, not because of any specific ramp related problem. If I was doing a multi day I'd opt for Cabrillo over Long Beach. That's what most of the commercial lobster and urchin opperators do. I do use South Shores when I leave early.
mikeyairtime	posted 06-24-2005 01:28 PM ET (US) BTW, if you have any questions feel free to email me. I run charter boats in LA Harbor and around Catalina.
Estero	posted 06-24-2005 01:55 PM ET (US) Thanks for those replies- I'll probably go with the launch from Cabrillo, since it shaves a couple of miles off the trip to the isthmus. My truck is an old F150, so hopefully it won't be too tempting for a break-in. I'll have to be sure to let it get nice and dirty before I take it down there. Mr. Airtime, I may check with you later in July to see what the bite is like. Tim
ledfoot	posted 06-24-2005 04:58 PM ET (US) You may want to drive the rig around the corner to Cabrillo Marina, and leave the rig either in the hotel lot or one of the marina lots. I'm not sure I'd want to leave it out there that long at the Cabrillo ramp. -Jeff
mikeyairtime	posted 06-25-2005 12:21 AM ET (US) I did a search and found a neighborhood crime profile website. Bottom line is Cabrillo, 2nd Street and South Shores all rate equally bad for property crimes. They're all lousy areas.
WellFairFisherman	posted 07-03-2005 03:13 AM ET (US) Hey Mikey.....Got any of those old lobster spots you would like to share???....I know of the hard bottom spots inside the V but they threw us out of there last season..... Its hard finding spots that are accesable with a small boat......Warren
mikeyairtime	posted 07-04-2005 07:11 PM ET (US) The spots that fish the best and are legal are inside the Santa Monica Bay but the water quality is bad. If you draw a line from Rocky Point to Malibu Point the whole area inside of the line is closed to commercial lobstering. Early in the season before any weather hits fish shallow. As the winter storms hit they move deep. When your trying to find them try different depths. You don't need to be right on the structure, just near it. The break walls all fish well early in the season but can get crowded now that hoop netting has been discovered. If you're too tight to the break walls be prepared to loose some hoop nets. If you're too close as soon as you put the nets down they start getting pulled into shore. Set your hoop nets up so that you can add extra shots of line and don't be afraid to try the deeper offshore artificial reefs. That's where the quality bugs are. In my experience Catalina island usually doesn't fish as well.
WellFairFisherman	posted 07-06-2005 09:25 PM ET (US) "Right On"....Thanks for the tips....I started hoopin 2 weeks before the end of the season. Did pretty well but was thrown out of the spots that the coasties said were legal. Can't wait till the opener..Hopefully my 13whaler will make pulls easier than my 12 foot aluminum.......Warren Hey Tim....How was your trip???...Did you get into the yellows???
marc monreal	posted 07-12-2005 10:58 AM ET (US) I live a couple of blocks away from the beach, "Pt. Fermin area" and launch my Montauk their on a regular basis. I have never had any problems with the ramp or any issues with vandalisim. In the last fifteen years I have only witnessed a couple of incidents and those were with guys who had triple axle trailers and big off shore speed boats. At extreme low tide the ramp isn't long enough to handle these big trailers as it drops off. I have had good luck with finding bugs on the back side of the West end. Hope this helps, Marc
Estero	posted 07-16-2005 09:40 PM ET (US) WellFair, I haven't gone yet, trip isn't until the first week of August. Hope to get yellow or two, but if not, calicos will do. I'm mostly looking forward to being in water that's warm enough to swim in without a wetsuit. Thanks for the other replies with the information about Cabrillo, sounds like it's no worse than any other urban ramp. Tim