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pglein posted 03-21-2007 06:11 PM ET (US)   Profile for pglein   Send Email to pglein  
Where/when do you all want to meet this year?

Lets review:

In 2005 we did it at Dockton County Park on Vashon Island. This was a winner in terms of the facility, but many found it to be too far south from Seattle.

In 2006, we did it at Mystery Bay State Park on Marrowstone Island near Port Townsend. This facility was nice but not as nice, and many found it to be too far north from Seattle.

In the past it's been done at Blake Island State Park, but finding dock space was difficult to impossible on summer weekends, though the shoreside facilities are excellent and proximity to Seattle and central location makes it convenient for many.

I think the lesson from last year is that we need to determine the location early and stick with it. We attempted to accomodate people who ended up not showing up. I certainly don't want to go and make any executive decisions, but I don't want to spend three months deciding like last year.

I'm going to suggest that we have it somewhere central like Blake Island, Port Orchard, Bremerton, Poulsbo, Bainbridge or Gig Harbor. I would also not be opposed to somewhere on Lake Union or Lake Washington.

My personal vote is for Gig Harbor. Partially because that's where I'm coming from, but mostly because moorage at both Jersich Park and the Tides Tavern are free, and there are plenty of shoreside activities for spouses, and children. The boat launch is free and in good condition, and I can provide off-street parking. There are no ferries or tolls required to get there for those towing, and it's a short enough run from Seattle to be convenient, but long enough to be fun. It's actually a shorter trip from Seattle than Dockton both by car and by boat.

I would also suggest holding it early in the summer while everyone's still energized for boating. June or early July seem like good targets.

DeeVee posted 03-21-2007 09:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for DeeVee  Send Email to DeeVee     

Gig Harbor sounds OK to me.

Doug Vazquez

neb_2000 posted 03-21-2007 09:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for neb_2000  Send Email to neb_2000     
How about Cornet Bay by Deception Pass has boat launch lots of tables and good weather and is the gateway to the islands.
JohnL posted 03-23-2007 05:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for JohnL  Send Email to JohnL     

My family and I did enjoy last years get together. I think that either of the two locations would be fun. I have not been to Gig Harbor in a long time and never by boat. We have new beach house on Whidbey Island so Deception pass could be fun as well.

As with all get together's timing is everything. Location is less important to me than the date this takes place.


John L.

Skipjack 17 posted 03-23-2007 09:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for Skipjack 17  Send Email to Skipjack 17     
Penn Cove........Great seemed Penn Cove Mussels at Toby’s


MDI posted 03-23-2007 10:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for MDI  Send Email to MDI     
The location is not important to us, anywhere is fine. The timeframe that's best for us would be late June/early July - but we're fairly flexible.

Mark & Peggy

Skipjack 17 posted 03-24-2007 09:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for Skipjack 17  Send Email to Skipjack 17     
Spencer Spit State Park is a 138-acre marine and camping park situated on Lopez Island.

It's in the center of the Islands and a shot ride from Launch at Anacortes.


Pierce posted 03-24-2007 02:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Pierce  Send Email to Pierce     
Yea, Coronet Bay!!! I could launch at Snee-Oosh beach and be there in about 10 minutes!!! 15ss.
Dick posted 03-24-2007 03:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Any time and anywhere is OK with me. I just hope I am physicaly up to attending this year.
Skipjack 17 posted 03-24-2007 04:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for Skipjack 17  Send Email to Skipjack 17     
Coronet Bay is agreat place too..............B
JMARTIN posted 03-25-2007 12:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
We could look for those old Orca bones. I have not been into Coronet Bay for a long time. Do you think it has enough dock space?


JMARTIN posted 03-25-2007 12:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
Hey are we spelling Coronet wrong or is the state? John
JMARTIN posted 03-25-2007 02:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
It is Cornet. O'oops, oh well. You can play with the killer whirlpools, or in the protection of Skagit Bay. It's really not that far to get a cheeseburger at the La-Conner tavern. John
neb_2000 posted 03-25-2007 10:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for neb_2000  Send Email to neb_2000     
You need to go one more click on the chart and you will see there is a marina next to the boat launch with gas and fishing tackle and some space for boats and there is a county dock just the other side of the marina.10 minutes out to good fishing

neb_2000 posted 03-25-2007 10:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for neb_2000  Send Email to neb_2000     
And two big floats that state of washington has for boats to stay on at night all this is in very protected waters.
neb_2000 posted 03-25-2007 10:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for neb_2000  Send Email to neb_2000     
all this with fifty percent less rain then Seattle
JMARTIN posted 03-26-2007 12:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
I did not know about the county dock. Got what, 15 boats on it on the 8th of May, 14 years ago. How much dock space at the private marina? John
neb_2000 posted 03-26-2007 04:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for neb_2000  Send Email to neb_2000     

You know that shoreline photo was in 1993
a lot has changed in 14 years

The docks at the boat launch are are the way to go they are big and they are off shore you can put lots of whalers on them

JMARTIN posted 03-27-2007 10:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
OK, so Cornet Bay it is. Most votes wins. I suggest late August. Good Humpy fishing off West Beach, if they show up and according to the Department of Fisheries, they are not, so it should be pretty good. It is shallow on the inside, so after fishing, we can do some watersports. I will bring the rope and a tube for the weeneies, got to bring your own ski or wake board. I have a "frozen in place, foot size 8" 1970 Terry water ski and a ski rope if you are game. John
neb_2000 posted 03-28-2007 12:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for neb_2000  Send Email to neb_2000     

and lunch and ice cream at La conner

neb_2000 posted 03-28-2007 12:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for neb_2000  Send Email to neb_2000     
Also fish and chips and hanbergers that are great at Tobys
Pierce posted 03-28-2007 05:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for Pierce  Send Email to Pierce     
Well, since I live stupid close to there, and I would truly like to attend, I'll chime in with some dates that work for me. Hey, I gotta try! How about the weekend of the 18th, or the 25th? I only get 2 weekends off a month, and those are the weekends I have off.
JMARTIN posted 03-30-2007 12:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
Rumor has it that the Skagit Rver might be closed for Humpy {Pink Salmon] fishing this year. If that is the case, Cornet Bay will be elbows and assholes during the run. It might be prudent to avoid that area in late August, early September. I also think that Cornet Bay would be considered too far away for many of the Seattle area members who I would like to meet. But then again, I have never met any of you Northern CW members either.


pglein posted 03-30-2007 06:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     
I assume this is the Cornet Bay we're talking about:,-95. 677068&sspn=45.822921,77.695313&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=48.398551,-122. 628279&spn=0.006824,0.019956&t=h&om=1

If so, that looks great. I've never been to Deception Pass and have always wanted to. Could someone specify where exactly we are to meet? Where is the best place to launch? Directions/maps would be helpful.

From what people are saying it sounds like late June/early July are best for the most people. Given that we don't want to conflict with people's Fourth of July plans (a Wednesday), which could fall either on the weekend of the 30th/1st or the 7th/8th, that leaves us with the following options:

June 16th, 17th, 23rd, 24th July 14th, 15th.

It seems to me that a Saturday is best in case people want to make an overnight out of it. Leaving June 16th, or 23rd, and July 14th.

I'm pretty sure I'm ok with any of those, but I know I've got a trip to Boston somewhere on the calendar this summer, so I need to check on those dates. I can NOT do it the weekend of July 21/22, as I'm taking the boat over to Priest Lake in Idaho.

JMARTIN posted 03-31-2007 01:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
OK, neb 2000 and Pierce, scope it out. You sound closer than me. I would ask the Park Ranger.

Launch fee?
Can we secure a spot? Picnic area, dock space, and overnight on the boat or off.

Map?, Jeez, you just go across Deception Pass Bridge onto the North end of Whidbey Island, hang a left at the first light, and the road ends at the launch, right?

What I know about Cornet is 30 years old. I just cruise on by it. It is under the jurisdiction of Deception Pass State Park. Has a good launch and dock, or at least it did 30 years ago. It is protected, but I have never spent the night. There are some other, just OK spots to anchor on the inside, off Skagit and Hope. It’s safe, just exposed if the wind comes out of the North, which would be rare.

It is a very diverse boating area. You got Deception Pass and don’t forget about Canoe, out into the bottom of Rosario and open water. You can scoot up to Skyline or over to Hunter Bay on Lopez. Then you got the inside which is protected and has been filled in by the Skagit River. You got the Swinomish Slough, La Conner, and the Whidbey Island Naval Air Station, motto: Pardon our noise; it’s the sound of freedom, which can be very, very cool. Actually, the base is kind of on both sides.

The only weekend I can not do it is June 23-24 John

neb_2000 posted 03-31-2007 05:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for neb_2000  Send Email to neb_2000     
How many people can we expect to come to cornet bay???
neb_2000 posted 03-31-2007 05:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for neb_2000  Send Email to neb_2000     
Around the first week of june is still not busy but July is a mess even last of may is good here because there is fifty percent less rain then Seattle
MDI posted 03-31-2007 11:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for MDI  Send Email to MDI     
Regarding the first weekend in June, you have minus 2+ foot tides Fri, Sat & Sunday. I suggest the 2nd weekend of June, the 9th & 10th, which would be better tide-wise, if this matters to anyone. It gets pretty skinny in Cornet Bay on minus tides. Other times also work for us, except July 7-8 & July 14-15.
kglinz posted 03-31-2007 12:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for kglinz  Send Email to kglinz     
If you can have it before the middle of July, I'll probably make it this year. I think Cornet Bay would be great. I drove over there last August and thought it looked nice.

Kemp Lindsey, Boise ID

neb_2000 posted 04-01-2007 07:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for neb_2000  Send Email to neb_2000     

Sounds like a good time to go to the Bay The 9th or 10th of june Halibut fishing is still open. Lingcod and rockfish is open and you can get them right outside the bridge on the change of tide

neb_2000 posted 04-01-2007 07:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for neb_2000  Send Email to neb_2000     
You can make reservations in La Conner and stay overnite and boat to Cornet Bay in 20 minutes for the day or trailer in via the deception pass bridge.
Pierce posted 04-01-2007 08:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for Pierce  Send Email to Pierce     
I won't be able to look into all the info we need until Friday. I have to work Monday thru Thursday 12 hour shifts 6am till 6pm. It's about a 20-25 minute drive for me. No biggy!
kglinz posted 04-01-2007 09:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for kglinz  Send Email to kglinz     
Overnighting in La Conner is a good idea. Groups can reserve dock space. I'm sure most of you have been to
La Conner, but if you haven't, there are good places to eat or get a beer. Lots of shopping for the wives. You can "sling" in or launch in town. (can be tricky) or at the twin bridges on the North end of the channel.
pglein posted 04-02-2007 02:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     
Deception Pass/LaConner sound great to me. That's an area I've always wanted to spend more time in and should be protected enough for the 13'.

Doing it in June is looking better for me. The wedding I was worried about actually isn't until September, so that's a non-issue.

June is currently wide open on my calendar.

Pierce posted 04-02-2007 09:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for Pierce  Send Email to Pierce     
I can make it the last 2 weekends in June and the first weekend. Hey, I gotta try!
JMARTIN posted 04-04-2007 11:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
I found out some information about Cornet Bay. First come, on the tables and dock space. You can launch at all tides, so they say. Nice launch, actually four of them. Parking for 60, 5 bucks to launch, 10 to leave your rig overnight. 10 buck minimum to stay on the dock overnight or .50 cents a foot. Adult beverages OK at the tables and on the dock by your boat. They just do not want you walking around with a beer in your hand. They have not been real busy in early June in the past.


Cornet is off to your right from the little island

and if you are worried about the Pass, you can always just row thru it like these guys. It would be a different story if they were going the other way

I looked at Bowmans Bay also. Nope, too shallow at low tide, too open if there is wind, and minimum dock space. John

JMARTIN posted 04-04-2007 11:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
O'oops, goofed up the picnic area


neb_2000 posted 04-04-2007 10:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for neb_2000  Send Email to neb_2000     
Good job John

1145 feet of docks and double that if we rafted.

If we go the first of the mounth 9th or 10th of June no minus tides and Halibut and lingcod are still open
The nice thing about this place is we have a store a short walk away

pglein posted 04-05-2007 02:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     
So how does June 9th sound? Those that want to overnight, can. I'm pretty sure it works for me.
MDI posted 04-05-2007 03:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for MDI  Send Email to MDI     
June 9 works well for us.

Mark & Peggy Ingraham

Mike in Washington posted 04-05-2007 05:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mike in Washington  Send Email to Mike in Washington     

Is this open to folks in general or is specific to a certain bunch of WA folks. I live just north of Bellingham and would be interested in participating if possible.

Thanks, Mike

84 Montauk

MDI posted 04-05-2007 08:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for MDI  Send Email to MDI     
Mike in Washington,

This is our first rendezvous, just keep watching this thread, if you have ideas, post them. If it works out for you, bring your boat & come on down.

Mark & Peggy Ingraham

JZAB posted 04-06-2007 12:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for JZAB  Send Email to JZAB     
My work schedule may have me out of the area in early June, but I will make every effort to make it. Looks like a great spot, and a short run for me from Lopez Is.
pglein posted 04-06-2007 12:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     
Mike, this is open to ANY Whaler owners or even enthusiasts. We would LOVE to have people from father reaches (even out of state or out of country) attend. The only pre-requisite is that you come for the purpose of having a good time.

And, for the record, this is not our first rendezvous. We've had several in the past few years, and I believe several in the years before that.

No one is required to attend every year. I can certainly understand if every single year is a bit much for some people. I just want to be sure that it keeps happening becuase I think it can be a great resource for owners, especially those new to boating or to the area.

MDI posted 04-06-2007 01:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for MDI  Send Email to MDI     
Sorry if I caused some confusion. I meant to say that this is the first rendezvous my wife & I have participated in. We are looking forward to meeting all fellow whaler owners & enthusiasts.


Mike in Washington posted 04-07-2007 05:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mike in Washington  Send Email to Mike in Washington     
Thanks, I will continue to watch this thread and see what develops. I hope my schedule allows me to attend. I know I have to take customers fly fishing in Canada the 2nd or 3rd week of June.
Thanks again,
Pierce posted 04-08-2007 11:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for Pierce  Send Email to Pierce     
The 1st weekend, and the last 2 weekends work fo me. I know, I'm a whiner. But I gotta make this! First time Whaler owner,haven't been on the water in 10 years. It's 6 miles by water from where I live. And I'll have my newly rebuilt interior in my 15ss done!
JMARTIN posted 04-09-2007 12:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
I can do the 16th, 23rd, and 30th of June, and so far all of July. I do not think the tide is a factor in the date picking process after looking at the facility. John
MDI posted 04-09-2007 12:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for MDI  Send Email to MDI     
I'm retired so it doesn't matter to me when we go. My wife still works so she has to schedule around her co-workers. We will do our best to make it on the weekend that's best for the majority of the group.
Paul Windust posted 04-09-2007 03:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for Paul Windust  Send Email to Paul Windust     
Hello fom Poulsbo. Sounds like a great place to go, and we can drop into the water in so many other places nearby for a boat ride. I can bring a ss BBQ for cocking up some burgers, and I will be sure to bring some fire starters this year so we don't have to beg for matches like last year. The only weekend I can't seem to make is the June 9th weekend. My wife graduates form school. I can't miss that or I will only have half a boat, and no motor.
neb_2000 posted 04-09-2007 02:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for neb_2000  Send Email to neb_2000     

Hm mm having the get together on the 16th or 17th of June is the one of the lowest tides of the year and the water goes like hell in that area If we want to go to La Conner it can be scary if you have never gone in the swinomish channel.
I believe it would be so much better for all if we did this on the 9th or 10th. Tides are great for having a safe and sane day on the water.
neb_2000 posted 04-09-2007 02:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for neb_2000  Send Email to neb_2000     
I'm sorry these dates don't fit for all of us but they are truly the safest and best times to go. Please try to rework your schedules as we really want you all to come.
It will be a great day.
kglinz posted 04-09-2007 03:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for kglinz  Send Email to kglinz     
I would agree that on the 16th it would be a little shallow. Tides are: 9 Jun, +2.7 @ 0722, 10 Jun, +1.1 @ 0813. 16 Jun, -3.3 @ 1251, 17 Jun, -2.7 @ 1336..
kglinz posted 04-09-2007 03:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for kglinz  Send Email to kglinz     
I show 8 to 12 feet at the dock, so with care the 16th is doable with care.
aquaman posted 04-09-2007 04:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for aquaman  Send Email to aquaman     
I would like to join this year, the weekend of the 9th,16th and 23rd of June all work for me. Sorry I couldn't make it last year due to a family wedding.


JMARTIN posted 04-09-2007 09:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
You got a 5.8 knot, ebb current on June 9th 2:00pm.

You got a 7.1 flood on June 16th at 2:00pm. Floods are better.

You always have to watch the currents in the Pass, and the slough kind of marches to it's own drummer. The slough can snort right along, both ways.

The problem with the 16th is that minus 3 low is right at prime launching time for the trailer guys, about 11:30 am. The picture I took of the docks, I am guessing that was a 4 to 5. There is a minus 2.5 on 4/19. Maybe I should go take a look. John

JMARTIN posted 04-09-2007 10:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
My currents should be good, but my tide time is Port Townsend, so what, you add about an hour for Cornet? On the 16th, the current table showed the turn at 10:40 am. John
kglinz posted 04-09-2007 10:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for kglinz  Send Email to kglinz     
My tide times and heights are Nobeltec "Tides and Currents" and are for Cornet Bay. They are usually right on.
JMARTIN posted 04-10-2007 11:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
What does it show for the Deception Pass currents on June 16th? John
kglinz posted 04-10-2007 11:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for kglinz  Send Email to kglinz     
I show: EBB @ 0725, 7.6 KTS, FLOOD @ 1407, 7.1 KTS, EBB @ 2030, 6.8 KTS...Add some opposing wind and it should be a hell of a ride.. Slack is at 1040 and 1755.
JMARTIN posted 04-10-2007 01:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
Ok, it's the same as I got off some guys web page. There is a 2 hour difference between low tide and slack. That suprises me being that Cornet is so close. John
pglein posted 04-10-2007 02:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     
I believe the issue is not with the height of the tides, but the strong currents that accompany large swings. Deception Pass and the Swinomish Slough are two of the most dangerous places in the area when it comes to current.

If we're going to do it at Cornet Bay, we need to pick a date that doesn't have huge tidal swings.

I'm going to be in a 13' boat that has a top speed of just 24 knots. I can not safely negotiate 10 knot currents in a confined area. Sorry.

JMARTIN posted 04-10-2007 03:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
Peter, there are 5 to 7 knot currents every weekend. The slough never gets going as fast as the Pass. You will be fine. You do not have navigate the Pass unless you want to.

I lived on a Catalina 30 in Shelter Bay {La-Conner)for a couple of years. I had to do the slough every time and the Pass I did most of the time, unless it was a 7 knot going the wrong way and I was going to be there at max. The Catalina had an Atomic 4. It only did 7 knots.

The picture I posted of the guys rowing thru, actually, there were two boats rowing, was on a 6.5 knot flood about 2 hours after max. John

Look at the current table


Pierce posted 04-10-2007 10:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for Pierce  Send Email to Pierce     
Unless you are in a displacement hull boat, which I think none of us will be in, you should not be concerned with the currents in Deception Pass. Heck, you can take a 12 footer with a 10hp outboard thru that place without a worry! Been there done that! You would have a harder time getting across Rosario Straight.
JZAB posted 04-11-2007 10:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for JZAB  Send Email to JZAB     
Here are a couple photos taken from the Deception Pass Bridge
JMARTIN posted 04-11-2007 11:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
JZAB, Your 2nd picture is from Mt. Erie looking into Skagit Bay. This is the protected water on the inside of the Pass.

Nice shot. John

Bridgedeck posted 04-11-2007 01:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bridgedeck  Send Email to Bridgedeck     
Here's some looking up at that bridge: current=SanJuans060.jpg current=SanJuans059.jpg current=SanJuans063.jpg

neb_2000 posted 04-11-2007 08:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for neb_2000  Send Email to neb_2000     
wow- sorry if I said it all wrong on my last blog.
I was talking about the shallow water not the speed of the water it is sand and rocks on both sides of the channel going to La Conner that's what I meant not the speed of the water. We whaler guys and gals never have to worry about that.I have gone through the pass tons of times in a 13 footer and never had a problem and I had a 20 hp johnson on it
towboater posted 04-12-2007 09:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
Arr maties, permission t board?

JMARTIN posted 04-12-2007 02:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
Well, shiver me timbers, and bring the tug. There is some concern about low tides on the 16th of June, but if we got our own tug, what the heck?

I am not at all concerned about the slough or it's entrances at low tide. The only concern I have is the launch at Cornet. I am not familar with Cornet Bay at low tide.

June 2nd is out, and the 9th is iffy. The scuttlebutt around the home port has it that relatives are coming on the 8th to bunk. If I bail early on the 9th, I might get keelhauled. John

neb_2000 posted 04-12-2007 02:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for neb_2000  Send Email to neb_2000     
there is always Sunday the 10th
that might be better for those people that work saturday
towboater posted 04-12-2007 10:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
yea, ok, if can I trust you swavies not to BBQ me parot.


xray posted 04-14-2007 10:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for xray  Send Email to xray     
Would love to attend this yr but have June booked.
We have a 1967 Menemsha
Just found this site so will watch for any other gatherings.

Ron and Vicki Powley
Klamath Falls, OR 97601

JMARTIN posted 04-19-2007 07:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
Well, I got some shots of Cornet today at a -2.8 tide. July 16th has a -3.2 around 1:00pm. There was 3 feet of water 1/2 way from waters edge to end of dock. 4 feet of water at end of dock.

The float area at low tide,

The Revenge could have got in at Cornet without getting the hubs wet.

The north end of the slough launch, and a shot of the slough to the north. I would have waited here to launch the Revenge.

What do ya think? John

pglein posted 04-20-2007 01:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     
Well, it looks like the 16th would be doable with the tides, but perhaps not the best. However, taking other things into consideration, we may want to do it the 16th.

I know this much, I will attend either day. But if we do it the weekend of the 9th (Saturday or Sunday), my S/O can not attend. If I want her to go, it has to be the 16th or 17th. My preference would be to do it on a Saturday for those that plan to only attend one day. Those that wish to spend the night can then make it a two day affair.

So, a little reluctantly, my vote is for the 16th. I will definitely be launching righ there in Coronet.

towboater posted 04-20-2007 02:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
Aye, they'll be no killin til I gives the word.

Never been in a Sport Boat on the Sound. All I know is what I see on the charts & photo's. Cornet looks like a great place to break in.
Great pics John. thanks.

I work with tides every day. Moored chip barges run aground briefly at low tide depending on the draft of the barge, size of the tide, location etc. It is my job to deliver the barge to the unloading site ASAP. Yeah, like watching paint dry, I watch tides rise and fall almost daily.

While a minus tide may seem to cause complications, the further it drops, the faster it comes in.
Example; A tide swing takes 6 hr 15 minutes.
A low going from -3.0 to a 12 high = 15 ft or approx 2 ft of rise PER HOUR. Knowing I need +4 to move a 12 ft draft barge, I need to be on station, ready to rock n roll 2.5 hours past book low.

Seems to me, launching boats at Cornet ramp faces a similar situation. The summer solstice is June 23, 07. Longest day of the year.
Sunrise is 0523, sunset is 2110 (9:10 pm). Half moon.
Point is, we have long days all month, more time to be patient with the tide situations.

Looking at Johns photo's @ -3.1, Id guess that ramp is set up to accomodate lauching around 0 - +1.5 and above depending on how big your boat is. Thus, lauching could be somewhat limited a hour before and hour after book low @ Cornet.

Peter; I totally respect your concerns with the limitations of a 13 in that area. Id bet the pass runs like...well, a swift river during max ebb. Im more concerned with the wind that typically kicks up during large tide/temp swings in the afternoon. If you feel you need to return or find shelter, I'll be right there with ya.

Michael K

blkmtrfan posted 04-20-2007 02:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for blkmtrfan  Send Email to blkmtrfan     
Is the date June 9th then? and perhaps 10th?

pglein posted 04-20-2007 06:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     
Well, if there's a launch right there in Cornet, I'm not concerned at all. I can easily just drive and launch right there, regardless of how low the tide is (13's are light, and Tahoe's have 4wd). If the current in the pass is too strong, so be it. I just won't go there. But ideally, I'd like to be able to do a little sighseeing in one of the few areas of Puget Sound I've never explored. But, I suppose all I have to do is wait for slack tide.

The chart I'm looking at for the 16th says there's a 7.1 knot flood at 2pm. Slack should be at 6pm. By 8:30, it will be a 6.8 knot ebb.

These, of course, are for in the pass itself. But those definitely indicate a HUGE swing for the day. If I were to want to poke my head out through the pass in the early afternoon, I'd be doing so in about the worse possible conditions, save for an ebb current of the same magnitude.

On the 9th, they're about the same times, but the currents are in the 5.x knot range.

Still, the 16th works a little better for me, assuming I WANT to go to Spokane for a BBQ with my g/f on the 9th.

The state park campground, by the way, is still showing availability for both weekends, but there is more on the 9th than the 16th. I'd like to get this nailed down so I can make a reservation.

pglein posted 04-20-2007 07:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     
Ok, that's it. I'm setting it. I just made my camping reservation for the 16th. If you guys can't or won't do it on the 16th, I guess I'll be camping there anyway.
kglinz posted 04-20-2007 08:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for kglinz  Send Email to kglinz     
I don't know if it changes anything, but I think the 17th is "Fathers Day". I'll probably go to Cornet Bay on the Friday afternoon and stay over, if the weather is good. I can do any weekend in June.
Kemp Lindsey
Pierce posted 04-21-2007 12:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for Pierce  Send Email to Pierce     
The 16th works for me too!!! You don't have to go out through the pass to do some site seeing. Hope island and Skagit island are nice places to visit/explore. And the currents are not near as srtong. I grew up on Skagit Bay. It is my "back yard". I hope we all have a great time!!!
JMARTIN posted 04-21-2007 04:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
I'm in. John
MDI posted 04-22-2007 12:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for MDI  Send Email to MDI     
We'll plan to be there Fri. the 15th.

Mark & Peggy

towboater posted 04-22-2007 05:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater

Day High Tide Height Sunrise Moon Time % Moon
/Low Time Feet Sunset Visible

F 15 Low 12:02 AM 7.5 5:08 AM Rise 5:06 AM 0
15 High 4:28 AM 10.1 9:13 PM Set 10:38 PM
15 Low 11:59 AM -3.6
15 High 7:41 PM 10.9

Sa 16 Low 12:59 AM 7.4 5:08 AM Rise 6:17 AM 0
16 High 5:17 AM 9.7 9:14 PM Set 11:20 PM
16 Low 12:44 PM -3.4
16 High 8:25 PM 10.9

Su 17 Low 1:55 AM 7.1 5:08 AM Rise 7:37 AM 4
17 High 6:09 AM 9.3 9:14 PM Set 11:50 PM
17 Low 1:30 PM -2.9
17 High 9:07 PM 10.9

M 18 Low 2:51 AM 6.7 5:08 AM Rise 8:56 AM 9
18 High 7:04 AM 8.6 9:15 PM
18 Low 2:16 PM -2.0
18 High 9:47 PM 10.7

towboater posted 04-22-2007 05:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     

These are the tides for Cornet Bay & Deception Pass.
I wasnt sure if the copy/paste would format.
Came out ok I guess.
They are easier to read on the web site.

I hope my 94 17 ft Outrage is sold by then and the 19 ft Guardian will be "operational".
I miss my shop so bad (it and a 89 Divemaster burned last Sept), Contractors are waiting for permits and weather.

In a pinch, I guess I could bring the SeaSport and beg for mercy. Hey, may not be a BW but at least it was built in the Puget Sound area with BW quality inspiration.


Pierce posted 04-22-2007 10:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Pierce  Send Email to Pierce     
I guess I'll have to be sick that weekend. I have to work day shifts:(
Skipjack 17 posted 04-23-2007 05:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for Skipjack 17  Send Email to Skipjack 17     
Ok, know we know where and when. Let’s get down to business, like good food and drink. This will be our 1st BW Rendezvous and I would like bring some of my Apple Smoked Maple cured reef-net Sockeye and Alaska Black Cod if that sounds Ok !!!


MDI posted 04-23-2007 10:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for MDI  Send Email to MDI     
We can bring our world famous potato salad, somewhat spicy, but most survive it, and many love it.

Mark & Peggy

JMARTIN posted 04-24-2007 01:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
Jeepers, apple smoked, maple cured black cod and spicy spud salad. I might have to re-think my Cheeze Whiz, in a can of course, and Triscuits.

I checked out moorage in La Conner, in case we wanted to go visit. The town has 3 docks, but they charge .50 cents a foot. It does not matter if you are there for 5 minutes or 24 hours. The Port docks, just North of town, have a 4 hour free moorage window.


Skipjack 17 posted 04-24-2007 11:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Skipjack 17  Send Email to Skipjack 17     
John, everyone knows that Cheese Whiz go’s with bugles because of the lager holding power and high potential volumes.


blkmtrfan posted 04-25-2007 11:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for blkmtrfan  Send Email to blkmtrfan     
John, if I can make it I plan to moor at LaConner with our cruiser sth the main visitor docks and motor the 13 whaler over to the state park.

So if people want to stay at LaConner for lunch or something, I am sure we can raft a few.

Plus, I don't recall them being so stringent with the moorage. If you just want to stay for a hour or two, I have never had much of a problem.

We used to stop at the dock closer to town and go for lunch quite often ...


JMARTIN posted 04-25-2007 01:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
OK, I will buy that. I knew that the town of La Conner had a dock. I did not know that they had 3 docks. When I called to inquire about using the docks, the person I talked to did not seem to know much about them. She did not know what rafting was. It's a pay envelope set up, I think. I would assume they only check it for the overnight guests. Jeeze, you would think that La Conner would welcome wallets, I mean boaters, into the town. The Lighthouse restaurant use to have it's own dock. John
pglein posted 04-25-2007 07:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     
I've tied up for a few hours in LaConner without paying. No one seems to mind. Perhaps I was supposed to, I don't know.

You do have to be careful there though, because it's a little tricky coming into those docks with the current. If you're going to be there through a tide change, it's smart to rig up a line from the outboard side on the stern to keep the stern in when the current switches directions. Also critical then, is making sure that your spring lines are very securely fastened and oversized if possible, because they will take a lot of strain. I usually double them up so that they form two X's along the side of the boat. One forward, and one aft.

I'm looking forward to it. It will be myself, my girlfriend, and hopefully my friend (kquistorff, an occasional poster here) and his wife. We will be in my 13' and his 15'.

I don't think I'm going to put together the email list and send out reminders like I did last year. I'm thinking if everyone is just careful to put it on their calendar they won't forget. So do it now, mark it on your calendar. June 16th, say about 12 noon, or whenever you want to show up.

Pierce posted 04-25-2007 07:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for Pierce  Send Email to Pierce     
Tie up where ever you can. I grew up there with my ski boat in the summer. No problems. It's not like they have someone patrolling all the dock space along the length of the whole town. Enjoy!!
aquaman posted 04-26-2007 12:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for aquaman  Send Email to aquaman     
OK, now I'm confused, is it at Cornet bay or LaConner???


JMARTIN posted 04-26-2007 11:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
Cornet. There was talk of maybe running to La Conner and I was checking out dock space. John
kglinz posted 04-26-2007 01:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for kglinz  Send Email to kglinz     
Just for everyones info...LaConner Yacht Sales has F dock reserved the weekend of the rendezvous. F dock is the guest moorage at the South Basin. Probably not a problem. Just a little further to town from G dock.
kglinz posted 04-26-2007 01:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for kglinz  Send Email to kglinz
towboater posted 04-27-2007 02:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
Has anyone run thru the cut (Deception Pass) during max ebb?

What is it like?

The reason I ask...if the ebb is something worth experiancing SAFELY, I would schedule my trip to be there Friday night or Sat am in order to be in the passage around 10 am. Hell, I might just take my boat out of gear, feet on the dash, dangle a herring and DRIFT down thru taking photos.

Thereafter, cigars, cheese whiz & plunder LaConner or any port in a storm.


JMARTIN posted 04-27-2007 11:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
You can drift thru on an ebb. After you get past the skinny part there is a whirlpool thingy that will twist you around. I would want to be on power there. Coming in, there are some nasty back water spots near the sides. It is like a river, you can drift but watch what is happening and make corrections if needed. The biggest concern is that it is a small area and lots of boats use it. In our Whalers, and maybe a SeaSport, we will have no trouble. The larger and slower boats will have more difficulty so it's best to stay out of there way. Oh yeah, the whirlpools collect crap so stay away from them. John
JMARTIN posted 04-27-2007 01:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
I show slack at 10:40 am on June 16th. You want to be there at 7:25 am for max ebb, 2:07 pm for max flood.
aquaman posted 04-27-2007 03:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for aquaman  Send Email to aquaman     
I have been through on max ebb many times, it is a lot of fun it you are in the right boat. The waves can stack up large enough on the outside of the pass to make me pucker. Not as much fun if you are in a larger, slower cruiser.


towboater posted 04-27-2007 03:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
Thx John. Ive spent quite awhile going back n forth between your pictures and then finding that area on my charts. Great photo's.

I feared the Pass might have the capability of resembling the Columbia River Bar at times. Sounds more like Garrison Rapids below Bonniville during freshets.
Eddies also collect fish, can be fun to mooch. I will be checking the WDFW Regs later and post.

It is interesting the reciprical low tide in that area is very high.
The Saturday evening high is around 2030 and the Sunday AM BOOK LOW is +7.1 @ 0155. If that is correct (?), looks like almost any boat can go anywhere they want between 1400 Saturday and dusk (2200ish).

I guess it has something to do with the geography and ability of high tide to flush itself twice within a 25 hr cycle.

Its a 4 hr trip up there...maybe 5 on Friday or Saturday morn of that weekend. This makes bringing the SeaSport (warm dry bunk) tempting.


jgkmmoore posted 04-27-2007 06:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for jgkmmoore  Send Email to jgkmmoore     
On a max ebb, big tide, westerly blowing, a HUGE overfall can develope right under the bridge. I mean a 12+ FOOT DROPOFF going west, and you won't see it 'till you are going over. I nearly lost a 26 footer on one of those. I would have lost my boat, if seeing a 33' Bertram in front of us disappear completely hadn't forewarned me. CHECK YOUR WEATHER. If there is a westerly blow in from the Straights, and a big ebb tide, don't run either way!!!
An overfall, for those of you that haven't had the pleasure, is a VERTICAL wall of water, NOT a wave.VERY DANGEROUS. Deception didn't get it's name for naught.Big tides cause big whirlpools too- stay center channel.Whirlpools often collect crap you don't wanna mess with.When the are 'running hot', you can hear 'em sucking a long ways off.As we fought the next (3) 6' waves after the overfall, we could look 50' south of us, and see 2 guys in a tin boat sitting in FLAT water, mooching.Slack tide with no wind is a cakewalk. Just don't underestimate the huge power of mama nature.
JMARTIN posted 04-27-2007 06:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
How about Canoe, anybody ever been thru Canoe?

I have been told that it has nicer water than Deception, but man, it looks creepy. Since we got slack at 10:40 am, I would like to try it. John

jgkmmoore posted 04-28-2007 04:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for jgkmmoore  Send Email to jgkmmoore     
JMartin-Been thru Canoe many times AT SLACK tide. Wouldn't attempt any other time. It IS creepy. Reeeeeeel narrow.Like running between two moored battleships. I haven't done it in an open boat though.
Wife just informed me that we have a wedding in Kamloops that weekend, and I am specifically NOT EXCUSED from same.I really wanted to meet members of the NW group,and revisit Cornet.Nuts!!!The ONLY weekend of the summer we are committed!
If you haven't before, shoot over to Rosario Beach State Park, just outside (West) of Deception, on the North side of the pass. Worlds record octopus in there, and a great beach with worlds best skipping stones. Stay away from the rocks on south side of bay...loads of kelp there.It is now part of the Deception Pass State Park, I think. Picnic tables above the west facing beach.
jgkmmoore posted 04-28-2007 04:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for jgkmmoore  Send Email to jgkmmoore     
The beach at Rosario is covered with loose,flat,smooth edged stones. Usually fairly steep. A great place to beach a Whaler without worrying about barnacles and imbedded rock.Or,anchor the stern out,and tie your bow about 10' from the beach. Great play place.Not good if a strong westerly or SW wind blowing.Flat water most of the glass. One of the better kept secrets of the NW. Don't tell.......
towboater posted 04-29-2007 12:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
thx for the info JK.

I guess a June wedding in the NW is excusable.

My Daughtor knows I will not attend ANY Wedding in July or August because the NW weather (outdoor activities) has a higher priority for me. They can get married anytime during the other 10 months & I will be there.


JMARTIN posted 04-30-2007 11:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
Rosario Beach, help me here, is it North of Rosario Head? John
towboater posted 05-01-2007 12:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
Damn, my Niece just announced a Aug 25th wedding.
Well, at least it is in Pacific City, Ore.

Looking at the chart...
Rosario Beach is just N of Rosario Head.
48'25.183 N
122'39.784 W

Rosario Beach appears to be a little cove on the north west side of Rosario Head.
Approx 1.3 miles NW of Deception Pass Bridge as the crow flies.


mitch13 posted 05-01-2007 10:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for mitch13  Send Email to mitch13     
Rosario Beach....brings back memories. Many,MANY years ago, a couple of my young teen buddies and myself bicycled with sleeping bags and camping gear (not much) from Mt. Vernon to Rosario beach and camped out for a few days, eating whatever seafood we could find. My first snorkeling experience. The crew of a salmon troller, anchored for the night gave us a small salmon, which, when barbecued over the campfire was better than anything I've had since, or so it seemed.
Maybe I can re-visit there with my whaler.
JMARTIN posted 05-01-2007 04:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
This must be the spot. I have never been in there.


kglinz posted 05-01-2007 08:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for kglinz  Send Email to kglinz     
There's a building there that belong to Walla Walla College. I don't know if it's still in use.
jgkmmoore posted 05-05-2007 04:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for jgkmmoore  Send Email to jgkmmoore     
JMartin-THAT'S IT!! Great photo. I couldn't find one. The Walla Walla facility is right at the head of the short pier in the center of the beach. The picnic area is the greenbelt just to the right of the pier, above the beach.There used to be a steep,one lane boat launch in the next bay to the right-just on the back of Rosario Head.Requires good backing skills, and crafty launch tech on low tides. I don't recommend it unless Cornet is jammed.The octopus are mostly on the North (left)side of Rosario Head, and in the rockpile there.Only once in all our visits, did we see a boat anchored here.Everyone always on their way to/from Deception Pass in a big hurry.That's why it's so cool.It isn't hidden at all, just not a destination for most.It is beautiful in there, and usually fairly peaceful.Keep Clam!
jgkmmoore posted 05-05-2007 05:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for jgkmmoore  Send Email to jgkmmoore     
Hey! Cool! Look at JMartins photo, and click the right arrow 3 times.There is now a nice parking area and ramp by the long/big dock in the 2nd next bay.Don't remember that at all....been awhile.WOW. That bay can be seen on your right as you exit Deception westbound.
JMARTIN posted 05-05-2007 11:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
That's the Bowmans Bay launch, a no low tide launch. Cornet is by far the best launch. John

PS zoom out, it's a cool site for NW boaters, a bit dated.

rbm posted 05-08-2007 04:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for rbm  Send Email to rbm     
PNW Rendezvous Date/Location
I'd consider attending the event w/my 150 super sport..just cannot figure out the exact date/location..can someone clarify the final location/date
JMARTIN posted 05-08-2007 06:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
June 16th, Cornet Bay, hope you can make it. John
JMARTIN posted 05-09-2007 07:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
Look out! It's the killer whirlpools!


aquaman posted 05-11-2007 11:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for aquaman  Send Email to aquaman     
It appears a group of us will be running up from Seattle. JOHNL has confirmed and Tom Clark, if his schedule allows, and my boat, that makes three. If the weather cooperates, we will try and run up the outside of Whidbey Island, through Admiralty Inlet, up to Smith Island and then through Deception Pass. The current tables say the "tide turn" at Deception Pass will be 10:30AM, about the same time were going through. Sounds to me like it will be uneventful... I hope the winds cooperate on the 16th and were able to run the outside, its a nice trip... Anybody else interested in running up from either Seattle or Edmonds???


towboater posted 05-12-2007 01:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
The ol Coastal Explorer dead reckons roughly 60 miles between Elliot Bay and Deception Pass.
30 mph = 2 hrs = 0830 D part = 0300 head N outa Kelso.

The only time Ive ever gotten up that early to go BOATING, I was either getting paid or going fishing.

Man, I wish I would have finished that last year of Law School. This is to say I want you to know, I spent considerable time trying to figure out the following;
Area 6, 9, 8-1 & 8-2...bottom fishing closes June 15.
All Puget Sound crabbing is CLOSED until further notice.
Please correct me if I am wrong. Tell me it isnt so!!

Well, other than Sturgeon...which I love to catch and smoke, there is not much going on in the Columbia in June either so the 2 hr cruise may be a nice run.

I should put together a late August mouth of the Columbia Rendevous/Salmon Tournament/Fish Fry/Clam Bake/Crab Feed/ Oyster shucking & Beer chugging contest.
It's too late, every Motel & campsite on the Peninsula is booked for Aug.


aquaman posted 05-12-2007 11:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for aquaman  Send Email to aquaman     

From Shilshole Bay to Deception Pass along the West side of Whidbey is 46 mi and up the East side of the island it's about 52 miles. You can launch at Elliott Bay, Shilshole Bay or sling it in at Edmonds. Join us if you can...


towboater posted 05-12-2007 12:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
Just found out my Son's HS Graduation Ceremony is June 16.

If you see a black Ford dually sitting in a boat launch parking lot with a Whaler hooked to the back & nobody around...
wake me up.


Pierce posted 05-12-2007 07:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Pierce  Send Email to Pierce     
FYI, I heard that crabbing season opens for area 8?, the same weekend of the get together.
neb_2000 posted 05-12-2007 07:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for neb_2000  Send Email to neb_2000     
you can trailer to Everett launch in the river(at any tide)
and go to cornet bay on flat water in the morning but not in the afternoon 3:00 pm wind comes up. short trip and pleasent.
neb_2000 posted 05-12-2007 07:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for neb_2000  Send Email to neb_2000     
crabbing opens in july
pglein posted 05-14-2007 12:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     
Inside of Deception pass is Marine area 8-1. Outside is area 6. In both cases, crabbing does not open until July 4th. This is unfortunate, as I would have loved to do some crabbing while up there. But rules are rules, and they're there for a good reason.

However, if you simply must get your crabbing fix, it does open on June 18th for South Sound (south of Narrows Bridge) and the outer straights (west of Low Point). South Sound has always yielded lots of Rock Crab for me, and some Dungeness in the deeper water.

pglein posted 05-14-2007 12:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     

Don't worry, he won't mind. There's always his wedding, right?

aquaman posted 05-25-2007 11:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for aquaman  Send Email to aquaman     
pglein posted 05-30-2007 12:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     
Is anyone else planning to spend the night?

I will be bringing my girlfriend, and Kevin (15' Center Console) will be bringing his wife and we're all planning to spend the night in the campground. Will we be the only ones?

JMARTIN posted 05-30-2007 01:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
I might spend the night, but I would be staying on the boat. If the dock is too crazy, I might drop the hook at Skagit or Hope. John
MDI posted 05-30-2007 11:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for MDI  Send Email to MDI     
We will be spending Friday and Saturday nite at the dock or on the hook depending on how busy things get.
kglinz posted 05-31-2007 07:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for kglinz  Send Email to kglinz     
We plan to arrive early Friday afternoon.

Kemp Lindsey

towboater posted 06-01-2007 12:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
Ive read almost everyones profile and I would sure like to meet everyone, check out your boats and of course, be able to say I have been thru Deception Pass.

My only Son is a great kid. School hasnt been easy for him. You cant believe the "temptations" he has encountered and resisted.
June 16 (HS Graduation) is a big day for both of us.
So, I wont make it to the PNW Redezvous 2007.

The good news...I plan to spend the entire summer sport fishing out of Ilwaco Wa in a 24ft Seasport. I have purchased Dads double wide next to my RV lot in Seaview and will be turning it into a beach house/fishing camp all summer. When you guys get tired of getting skunked up there, give me a call.

The Ocean opens July 1, Buoy 10 opens Aug 1st.
My 19 will stay near Kelso to catch Kings (freshwater anchor fishing) thruout Sept.


pglein posted 06-02-2007 12:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     
Well, it looks like there might be a problem for me. Over Memorial Day weekend, a very good friend of mine drowned in the Columbia River at Vantage, trying to swim after his boat which had broken away from it's anchor. The funeral is scheduled for June 16th at 2pm in Port Orchard. I will still make every effort to attend, but it obviously will preclude me from attending bulk of the event.
towboater posted 06-02-2007 02:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
Very sorry to hear about your friend P. Sad and terrible.
Ive never heard of Vantage.

I can make it Sunday, no prob.
Im seriously considering bringing a couple crab pots and move down to Area 6 somewhere (any suggestions?) Monday.


neb_2000 posted 06-04-2007 12:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for neb_2000  Send Email to neb_2000     
We will be there sat. early before the tide goes out
to launch most all tides are OK though.
We will be bring lots of hot dogs buns and the fixings for all to eat.
Someone else can bring lots of other stuff and we will have a great day of jawing and feasting.


pglein posted 06-04-2007 02:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     

If you were able to continue up the Columbia past the Hanford Reach, and through the Wanapum Dam, you'd come to a point where Interstate 90 crosses the river. That is Vantage. It is close to the Gorge Ampitheater and has a reputation as a party spot on holiday weekends. It's also known for strong winds funneling through the canyon and a potential for rough water.

JMARTIN posted 06-04-2007 02:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
Oh man, I am sorry to here about your friend Peter. There will always be more rendezvous, there will never be enough friends.

Towboater, I do not think that area 6 opens untill June 27th. John

pglein posted 06-06-2007 02:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     
As of right now, the plan is to head up there Friday after work. We've now reserved our campsite for both Friday and Saturday night. Kevin and his wife will be there for the rendezvous in their 15' Center Console. My g/f and I will have to leave around 11am on Saturday to go down and catch the ferry to Port Townsend. I would not expect that we will return until about 6pm. So we will essentially miss the rendezvous, but we'll bring the boat anyway, and we'll be there in the evening to hang out with anyone who wants to.

There is some chance that I will skip the funeral, as I will be driving through Vantage this weekend and may simply stop and say my goodbyes then. Considering that I know he's still out in that lake somewhere, I almost feel better doing that anyway. We'll see.

towboater posted 06-08-2007 02:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
You are right John, I now read area 4,5 & 13 open on the 18th. Area 6 on the 27th.

Curious tho, as frustrating as the FWS Rules are, I am careful and know better than to pass on FWS info without a reference. I spent quite awhile checking and THAT is why I posted the link, and now... it doesnt open.
Im sure it read June 18th opener for Area 6.
My birthday.
Whatever, it clearly reads the 27th now.

Shad are running like crazy here now. My 19 is supposed to be ready for sea trials Weds and I need it to fill the freezer with crab bait (shad)...and if it runs as good as I expect it to, Deception Point Sunday.

FYI, Columbia River sport crabbing is open year round.
12 males per person. Oregon FWS basically controls the Columbia River fishery.


pglein posted 06-08-2007 12:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     

I'd noticed that and was wondering if the crabbing was any good down there. How far up the river can you go and still get Dungeness? I might want to make a trip down there and do some crabbing.

Skipjack 17 posted 06-08-2007 10:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for Skipjack 17  Send Email to Skipjack 17     
Hold the crab lets have smoked sockeye salmon at the Rendezvous next week..............B jpg

towboater posted 06-10-2007 01:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
Im eating fresh "ocean" crab right now Peter.
Store bought.

We had a southerly blow today, rainin sideways, we bagged it (SeaSport) & came home...everyone has Graduation parties this weekend and next. My Guardian isnt going to be ready for the Rendezvous.
Your question is a big reason Ive tried my best to get up there.

Ive never crabbed in the Puget Sound so I cant really tell you if its "any good" down here or not.
5 crab Puget Sound limit doesnt get me too excited, BUT, if they are ALL moss back restaurant quality monsters, I may change my opinion.

Down here, basically, I like to take 4 good sized pots, 4 persons.
Drop pots in the bay and then go salmon fishing in the ocean.
If we dont limit out our salmon within 4 hours, the fishing is lousy. July - Aug, I would say the bay crabbing is good, but not the best. It is good because I expect to bring in 25, 5-3/4" or bigger males that are a little bit soft shell and not quite full but taste great.
This is in addition to salmon limits. Sometimes we get downright drunk cleaning fish and cooking crab afterwords.

On "butterfly days" (as opposed to bluebird days) with strong backs in the crew, I might take a couple pots outside and then, you bet, crabbing is good. But, that's kind of the disqualifier of Columbia River crabbing, I cant guarantee you or my guests that we will be able to get outside to crab. If you do go outside, you need longer ropes. & now that you have longer ropes, a big swell will "drag" a sport pot & it wont fish unless you add weight.

The SeaSport (new to me) has a electric crab puller so I may rig a couple of 150 ft ropes for ocean pots. You can get by with 40 ft ropes in the river. In the Ocean, IF you run towards the beach to get into shallow water (shorter ropes), then you need heavier pots or the swell/tide will pick em up and they dont fish.

Whether crabbing down here is good or not is a bit of a quandry.
Feb - June, steelhead & springers (river).
June - July, its all sturgeon & shad.
July - Sept, salmon/tuna have the priority,
in all cases, pickin up crab on the way back is a bonus.
Oct - Dec, bay crabbing gets a priority...Id guess, as good or better than Sound crab. Usually lots of BIG full males with every pick. My guess is that the crab smell the remnants of the spawn and move into the river. Most of the sporties stay home & watch ball games = more crab for me.


towboater posted 06-10-2007 01:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
btw, skipjack, oh man, oh man,

that is soo good.

Ever try using a Traeger smoke cooker?

Dad has one.
I want one.


Skipjack 17 posted 06-10-2007 08:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Skipjack 17  Send Email to Skipjack 17     
Hello Mike, Yes the Traeger smoke cooker looks good but I use a Southern Pride for my own reasons.

I think the type of smoker is less important then the brining and creating a good pellicle on the surface of the fish before smoking. And of course the type of wood sure helps…………Bob jpg jpg

towboater posted 06-11-2007 03:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
Looks like you've got it down.
Its been awhile since Ive smoked my own fish. I prefer green alder (no bark) & maple mixed.
Ive never had a really decent smoker.


pglein posted 06-11-2007 02:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     
How good the crabbing is in Puget Sound really depends on where in the sound you're doing it. Up north it's much better. I've rarely limited on Dungeness, but I've also never left my pots out for more than several hours. I prefer to fish deep, at least 100'. I find the crab are bigger and there are more of them. The current can drag your floats underwater, or take your pot for a ride when you get into the deeper water, so I've switched to weighted stainless pots and added trailer buoys.

When fishing in South Sound, 90% of what you get is Red Rock crab. They're plentiful, and although the meat is harder to get out of the shell, much of it is just as good. Most days I limit on them in a few hours. I do this regularly even when sticking to the 6.25" minimum that applies only to Dungeness and tossing back females (which are tecnically keepers). Dungeness so far have all been very small and juvenile. This year, I'll be heading to deeper water (2-400') to see if they are out there. I believe they are.

Central Sound produces more dungeness in the right spots. However, the fishing pressure is strong and if you don't get out there early on opening day, there isn't much left over.

I've never crabbed in North Sound or the Straights, but I hear it's great.

The San Juans is some of the best crabbing I've ever encountered. Again, water over 100' seems to be much more productive. This would be the only place I've ever hit my limit. Many many people keep their pots in water under 50' since that's the length of line most stores sell with their pots. By stepping up to 200' lines, I've found I can do much better by setting my pots out away from the crowds. The crab are mostly legal sized and never soft-shell. Some great spots are Blind Bay on Shaw Island (outside the bay, to the west of the ferry landing-be sure you're out of it's approach course), and anywhere around Spencer Spit (I had good luck on the south side). A lot of people crab Fisherman's Bay on Lopez Island. When we arrived, I asked the dockmaster where he recommended. He said that most people fish the inside of the bay, but he said that simply dropping your pots directly off the boat in the dock yielded good results. So, I tried one pot off the boat, and one inside the mouth. But my instincts told me to try a couple outside the mouth, as deep as I could get. The two pots inside the bay yielded nothing but jeveniles, mostly rock crab. The pots outside the bay (totally alone, by the way) were packed with legal Dungeness.

Everything I've read about dungeness crab says that they mate in the shallow estuaries in the spring, but retreat to the deep the rest of the year, particularely true of the males. They like the warmer water for mating, but prefer water in the 40's the rest of the time. The juveniles stay in the shallow warm water until they are nearly full grown. It seems to me that the habits of most Puget Sound crabbers are built around catching them when they're in shallow in the spring because, historically, this has been allowed. Now, smaller crab are off-limits, and the season doesn't open until June or July (depending on the area). In my opinion, if what you want is big, adult, male Dungeness, your best bet is deep water (they reportedly live as deep as 1,200') and long soak times (12-24 hours). My guess is that in the ocean off the Washington and Oregon coastline in several hundred feet of water is probably where you'll find the most large crab. The cold deep water is great and the fishing pressure is relatively low. The estuaries available for mating are large and still in their natural state. However, it doesn't surprise me to learn that fishing in those estuaries produces abundant, but small or soft-shell crab.

Puget Sound, by contrast, has protected, and easily accessible deep, cold water. However, the estuaries are smaller, with less natural breeding habitat, and the fishing pressure is very high. So, while the crab are harder to find, they will tend to be larger than what you might catch in the Columbia, but not as large as what you would get offshore.

This is mostly conjecture, of course, but it makes sense in my head. I'm curious what some others might have to add.

pglein posted 06-11-2007 02:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for pglein  Send Email to pglein     
Oh, and on the Traeger grills: Last weekend I went to Spokane where my company hosted a fundraiser bbq cookoff. Traeger had a rep there and they were showing off their line of pellet smokers. They're nice equipment, but a couple things became evident to me:

1. It's more about the meat than the equipment
2. Everyone has different taste and will prepare their meat accordingly

This was a ribs and chicken event, so there was no fish, but I would imagine the Traeger smokers would do a nice job on Salmon.

It was also interesting to taste a wide variety of different styles. One guy who was there had a very large, professional style, trailer-mounted, custom made smoker. He was from Texas originally, and was talking about how tastes differed from there to here. He said in Texas, people like dry, spicy ribs, while up here, we like them soft, and slathered in sweet barbecue sauce. He pointed out that we prefer it to literally fall off the bone, while down there, that's not prefered. I found it interesting. I think it must be the difference between the spanish influence in Texas, and the Chinese influence up here. Do you think Teriyaki ribs are popular in Texas? Probably not.

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MDI posted 06-17-2007 04:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for MDI  Send Email to MDI     
My pictures of the rendezvous can be viewed by clicking on my profile & looking at my photobucket, 2007 PNW Rendezvous. Hope we got everybody's name right, or at least the ones we could remember.

We had a great time & enjoyed meeting everybody. Unfortunately we had to leave early due to getting word of Peggy's father's death. We had an easy run back to Gig Harbor, made in just under 3 hours.

Mark & Peggy

Skipjack 17 posted 06-19-2007 11:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for Skipjack 17  Send Email to Skipjack 17     
Very sorry to her about Peggy's father's death. And please give her my best. Enjoyed meeting everyone and was exited to see some good looking Whalers......Bob

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