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RevengeFamily posted 07-02-2010 10:12 PM ET (US)   Profile for RevengeFamily   Send Email to RevengeFamily  
We will be heading north up the Hudson through the Champlain Canal and into Lake Champlain. Looking for any advice regarding decent marinas and anchorages. Any areas to avoid? Any areas that you consider a must see?

Thanks in advance, Norm

themclos posted 07-02-2010 10:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for themclos  Send Email to themclos     
Sorry, I have no advice, but I would be interested, as well, in any advice, and I look forward to reading about your trip.

Dan

Bella con23 posted 07-02-2010 11:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bella con23  Send Email to Bella con23     
I agree. This would be my dream trip including the Erie Canal.
Keep us updated.
RevengeFamily posted 07-03-2010 07:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for RevengeFamily  Send Email to RevengeFamily     
When we return I'll put together a posting. I will add a diary along side my boats log book.

Norm

themclos posted 07-03-2010 05:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for themclos  Send Email to themclos     
Norm,

These postings may be helpful.

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000438.html

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000320.html

Dan

Marlin posted 07-04-2010 11:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for Marlin  Send Email to Marlin     
No advice for the Hudson. On the Champlain Canal, watch your speed. The lockmasters share notes about who passed through when. The canal is scenic and relaxing. Lake Champlain, well, I love it and can hardly say enough about it.

The southern part of Lake Champlain, from Whitehall up to the once-and-future Champlain Bridge at Crown Point, is largely riverine. Below Ticonderoga, observe the channel markers carefully, even in a small outboard. North of there, you'll generally find that everything that looks like water is deep enough for you.

Fort Ticonderoga is an interesting historic site, as is Crown Point, where you can climb the lighthouse/monument to Samuel de Champlain. In theory you can dock at the Ticonderoga launch ramp and ferry landing and walk into town, but it would be a bit of a walk. Ticonderoga had some decent shops along main street when we lived there, but the village has suffered somewhat since the WalMart was built on the edge of town.

When we lived up there, we did much of our sailing between Crown Point and Westport. Even on summer weekends, we often had that part of the lake essentially to ourselves. Westport has a nice marina and is a lovely town to stroll and find dinner, but in my experience Westport Marina would nickel-and-dime you to death, to the point of charging a quarter to use the dinghy dock. Gimme a break. Perhaps things have changed for the better. As you proceed north from there, there are very steep and scenic rock faces and several wonderful harbors on the NY side -- Partridge Harbor and Barn Rock Harbor among them -- and nice low-lying harbors on the VT side, like Kingsland Bay and Converse Bay. Between the two sides, you can easily find secure anchorage in any wind direction.

Passing Split Rock Point, you enter "the broad lake". The sailing is great, but there's not much to see until you get up to either Willsboro Bay, a rural and scenic spot on the NY side, or Shelburne Bay on the VT side. You can't pass up the Shelburne Museum, an eclectic collection of 18th and 19th century Americana. Really, don't miss it.

North of Shelburne Bay is Burlington, which has a nice protected harbor, excellent restaurants, and good shopping. Further north on the NY side is Valcour Island, then Plattsburgh, which is a bit more commercial/industrial than Burlington. Beyond that there's still plenty of lake, but your outside of my familiarity.

Watch the weather, as it can change very quickly and with very little warning. Thunderstorms can roll up the valley between the Adirondack and Green mountains, and they can be fairly intense out on the water.

One last note -- beware of Canadians on sailboats. If you're lucky, they'll be wearing Speedos -- but don't count on it. Manys the time there'd be bare buns lined up on the weather rail. "Uh-oh, they're flying the maple leaf, avert your eyes!"

Have a great trip!

-Bob

RevengeFamily posted 07-13-2010 06:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for RevengeFamily  Send Email to RevengeFamily     
We returned from our trip to lake Champlin on Saturday evening. I can say that we had a fantastic time. The run up the Hudson from Stony Point was quick and painless, the Champlain canal was a breeze, and the lake itself was wonderful to help escape the heat wave.

I'm trying to get caught up with work so I will put a more detailed post together in a few days time.

Norm

themclos posted 07-21-2010 03:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for themclos  Send Email to themclos     
Norm,

I am curious how long it took you to reach the Champlain canal, and how many miles it was from Stony Point?

I am considering an outing up the Hudson.

Thanks,

Dan

RevengeFamily posted 07-23-2010 06:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for RevengeFamily  Send Email to RevengeFamily     
Hey Dan,

Sorry for the delayed responce, been busy at work...

From Stony Point, NY to the Federal Lock at Troy NY. was approx. 105 miles. Except for a few "no wake" zones, it's an easy and enjoyable ride. We averaged 30mph outside the "no wake" zones.

From the Federal lock to Lock one on the Erie is 2 miles north.

From the Federal lock to Lock one of the Champlain is 8 miles north.

On our return trip we left Fort Edward on the Champlain canal at 0515 and were safely at the dock in Stony Point at 1545. We stopped once for a quick bite to eat but other than that we needed to make time.

Norm


themclos posted 07-23-2010 08:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for themclos  Send Email to themclos     
Norm,

No worries. Busy is the better alternative.

Sounds like you had a good trip. My wife and I are looking to take an overnight trip later this summer or perhaps early fall.

I am thinking Kingston looks like a nice destination. It is about 90 miles north of Manhattan. With the Hudson River Maritime Museum, the Trolley Museum, and the area by the marina, it looks like a nice weekend option.

Heading out for fluke and sea bass tomorrow, by Sandy Hook and Shrewsbury Rocks.

Dan

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