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bigz posted 10-26-2000 01:09 PM ET (US)
Hi folks anyone by change have any thoughts or information on the 27 Walk Around believe were made '90-'91-'92 and'93 --- Chuck Bennett at Whaler has been very helpful providing us with manuals and literature --- would like some first hand knowledge and experiences if at all possible ---
Thanks Tom
bigz posted 10-26-2000 01:10 PM ET (US)
oops that's chance --- sorry one of those days Z
lhg posted 10-26-2000 03:01 PM ET (US)
Tom:The 27 Walkaround was also made in 1994, it's last year. The 1990 model is the original, in desert tan and with teak trim, designed by Dougherty before he left the company, and came with traditional full transom and Whaler Drive. The 91-94's were redesigned by Van Lancker's team, using an improved transom bracket & stern platform design, a larger cabin and in white gelcoat with black aluminium trim items. No further comments in the effort of preventing a "class" war! Both are great boats. Came very close to buying a used 1994 a year ago. Still would like to find a nice one. The 1990 27' WA's are extremely rare and hard to find used.
bigz posted 10-26-2000 03:19 PM ET (US)
Larry thanks for the information -- didn't know it was still made in '94 --- pretty much Chuck had filled me in on the details.
What I'm really looking for his someone(s) that have actually owned one and what their comments might be! --- We are not interested in the '90 model but comments from an owner would still be welcome. Actually all the years are pretty hard to find!
The "boss" has given the tentative go a head for searching one up for a possible purchase --- creature comforts you know --- chuckle ---

Whether or not we can follow through is a whole other question --- so I thought I'd throw the question out here maybe someone reading but not contributing yet will pick it up and respond ---
Regards Tom
lhg posted 10-26-2000 04:44 PM ET (US)
Tom: The one I was looking at was at the Lauderdale Marina, a 1994, rigged for fishing with a half tower, Outriggers, etc., and a pair of Yamaha 250's. It was in pretty good shape, just needed buffing out and a new paint job on the engines. Went for $53,000., after being for sale at $60,000 for almost 6 months. I should have bought it for that price! (I asked the Dealer what they would give me for the twin 1994 Yam 250's,-450 hours - since I was thinking about getting Mercs - answer was $5000 total. How's that for a low ball?)
bigz posted 10-27-2000 10:47 AM ET (US)
Larry pretty decent price on the 27 --- well believe it or not used twins even in good shape don't pull the kind of bucks one might expect --- and I'm sure the dealer was looking to make a quick grand or so on those Yamaha's.
Did you take her out?
There is one up in I think the Jupiter area asking 60k and I missed one in Georgia which went for under 40k! Just shopping now for information won't even consider purchasing (unless an unbelievable deal) until next spring ---
Tom
Tom L posted 10-28-2000 12:43 PM ET (US)
Tom: If you find one in this neck of the woods, I'll be glad to do leg work for you. As you know not very sophisticated at this, but have bought used and sold a few old inferior SeaRay's & Trojans over the years. TL
bigz posted 10-28-2000 03:32 PM ET (US)
Thanks Tom appreciate the offer --- will let you know if we come up with one down in your neck of the woods ---
We would have a professional survey done but sure would be nice if someone we knew could tag along ---
Again thanks Z
Hunter posted 11-01-2000 09:30 PM ET (US)
Just found this forum this evening and am glad I did. I have been searching for some time for other Whaler owners. bigz I own a 1992 Whaler Walkaround Cuddy with Whaler Drive in the 23 model. This is very similar to the 27 you are searching for. Mine is equipped with twin 200 Yamahas. The owners manuals cover the 23 and the 27. While I have never seen a 27 I can tell you about the 23. First, they look identical except for the length, of course. The boat is wonderful to run, is very rare as you have noted, has a straight deep v hull, untypical whaler I suspect, and appears much larger than it is. Mine has an integral bow pulpit with windlass, Simrad Autopilot, Rayhtheon Color Fishfinder, Raytheon Roster Scan Radar on a factory hardtop/arch combination, Garmin ChartMap GPS, VHF, Guest Spotlight mounted on the hardtop, Lee Single Spreader Outriggers, and nearly every option you could get on the boat from the factory. The boat handles large water well and definitely turns heads, my only disappointment is the amount of fuel the 1992 Yamaha 200 outboards use, a lot... They are straight carburation with oil injection. They run flawlessly, but are certainly expensive to run and maintain. Let me know what specifics on the boat your interested in. I know of two 23 Walkarounds currently for sale, one is in Conneticut, I believe, the other I am not sure of. Thanks, sorry if I was a bit long winded...
bigz posted 11-02-2000 02:15 PM ET (US)
Welcome to the forum Hunter.
Thank you for your review on the performance and ride of the 23 WA sounds like you have a fine boat ---
I have actually two manuals on the 27 WA thanks to Chuck Bennett at BW. On the 27 WA at least in '93 they came standard equipped with about everything imaginable quit a well though out combo machine --- fish and cruise --- we need at least 3 berths and the 27 WA is the only one that fills this one need ---
According to Chuck which was just a guess on his part --- they only built a couple hundred 27 WA's over the period they were in production --- guess that's why they are somewhat like hens teeth --- the other reason in '93 they listed out over 90k -- Less motors!!
We have a 27 '87 cc cuddy powered by two gas sucking Yamaha V-6 200's heh heh --- gas goes out faster than you can put in it seems at times --- It is a fantastic machine --- we cruised her up from Florida to NJ this spring using the Intercoastal and marinas with motel facilities, only two nights (thankfully) the 3 of us had to bunk on her (myself--wife and 9 yr old daughter) . Alas though we keep her docked better than 2 hours away and for day use becomes real old fast --- or the motel bills start to add up fast --- thus the idea of a 27 WA which would certainly fill our needs nicely ---
Again welcome and thanks for your response --- Tom


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Author	Topic: Research on 27 WA
bigz	posted 10-26-2000 01:09 PM ET (US) Hi folks anyone by change have any thoughts or information on the 27 Walk Around believe were made '90-'91-'92 and'93 --- Chuck Bennett at Whaler has been very helpful providing us with manuals and literature --- would like some first hand knowledge and experiences if at all possible --- Thanks Tom
bigz	posted 10-26-2000 01:10 PM ET (US) oops that's chance --- sorry one of those days Z
lhg	posted 10-26-2000 03:01 PM ET (US) Tom:The 27 Walkaround was also made in 1994, it's last year. The 1990 model is the original, in desert tan and with teak trim, designed by Dougherty before he left the company, and came with traditional full transom and Whaler Drive. The 91-94's were redesigned by Van Lancker's team, using an improved transom bracket & stern platform design, a larger cabin and in white gelcoat with black aluminium trim items. No further comments in the effort of preventing a "class" war! Both are great boats. Came very close to buying a used 1994 a year ago. Still would like to find a nice one. The 1990 27' WA's are extremely rare and hard to find used.
bigz	posted 10-26-2000 03:19 PM ET (US) Larry thanks for the information -- didn't know it was still made in '94 --- pretty much Chuck had filled me in on the details. What I'm really looking for his someone(s) that have actually owned one and what their comments might be! --- We are not interested in the '90 model but comments from an owner would still be welcome. Actually all the years are pretty hard to find! The "boss" has given the tentative go a head for searching one up for a possible purchase --- creature comforts you know --- chuckle --- Whether or not we can follow through is a whole other question --- so I thought I'd throw the question out here maybe someone reading but not contributing yet will pick it up and respond --- Regards Tom
lhg	posted 10-26-2000 04:44 PM ET (US) Tom: The one I was looking at was at the Lauderdale Marina, a 1994, rigged for fishing with a half tower, Outriggers, etc., and a pair of Yamaha 250's. It was in pretty good shape, just needed buffing out and a new paint job on the engines. Went for $53,000., after being for sale at $60,000 for almost 6 months. I should have bought it for that price! (I asked the Dealer what they would give me for the twin 1994 Yam 250's,-450 hours - since I was thinking about getting Mercs - answer was $5000 total. How's that for a low ball?)
bigz	posted 10-27-2000 10:47 AM ET (US) Larry pretty decent price on the 27 --- well believe it or not used twins even in good shape don't pull the kind of bucks one might expect --- and I'm sure the dealer was looking to make a quick grand or so on those Yamaha's. Did you take her out? There is one up in I think the Jupiter area asking 60k and I missed one in Georgia which went for under 40k! Just shopping now for information won't even consider purchasing (unless an unbelievable deal) until next spring --- Tom
Tom L	posted 10-28-2000 12:43 PM ET (US) Tom: If you find one in this neck of the woods, I'll be glad to do leg work for you. As you know not very sophisticated at this, but have bought used and sold a few old inferior SeaRay's & Trojans over the years. TL
bigz	posted 10-28-2000 03:32 PM ET (US) Thanks Tom appreciate the offer --- will let you know if we come up with one down in your neck of the woods --- We would have a professional survey done but sure would be nice if someone we knew could tag along --- Again thanks Z
Hunter	posted 11-01-2000 09:30 PM ET (US) Just found this forum this evening and am glad I did. I have been searching for some time for other Whaler owners. bigz I own a 1992 Whaler Walkaround Cuddy with Whaler Drive in the 23 model. This is very similar to the 27 you are searching for. Mine is equipped with twin 200 Yamahas. The owners manuals cover the 23 and the 27. While I have never seen a 27 I can tell you about the 23. First, they look identical except for the length, of course. The boat is wonderful to run, is very rare as you have noted, has a straight deep v hull, untypical whaler I suspect, and appears much larger than it is. Mine has an integral bow pulpit with windlass, Simrad Autopilot, Rayhtheon Color Fishfinder, Raytheon Roster Scan Radar on a factory hardtop/arch combination, Garmin ChartMap GPS, VHF, Guest Spotlight mounted on the hardtop, Lee Single Spreader Outriggers, and nearly every option you could get on the boat from the factory. The boat handles large water well and definitely turns heads, my only disappointment is the amount of fuel the 1992 Yamaha 200 outboards use, a lot... They are straight carburation with oil injection. They run flawlessly, but are certainly expensive to run and maintain. Let me know what specifics on the boat your interested in. I know of two 23 Walkarounds currently for sale, one is in Conneticut, I believe, the other I am not sure of. Thanks, sorry if I was a bit long winded...
bigz	posted 11-02-2000 02:15 PM ET (US) Welcome to the forum Hunter. Thank you for your review on the performance and ride of the 23 WA sounds like you have a fine boat --- I have actually two manuals on the 27 WA thanks to Chuck Bennett at BW. On the 27 WA at least in '93 they came standard equipped with about everything imaginable quit a well though out combo machine --- fish and cruise --- we need at least 3 berths and the 27 WA is the only one that fills this one need --- According to Chuck which was just a guess on his part --- they only built a couple hundred 27 WA's over the period they were in production --- guess that's why they are somewhat like hens teeth --- the other reason in '93 they listed out over 90k -- Less motors!! We have a 27 '87 cc cuddy powered by two gas sucking Yamaha V-6 200's heh heh --- gas goes out faster than you can put in it seems at times --- It is a fantastic machine --- we cruised her up from Florida to NJ this spring using the Intercoastal and marinas with motel facilities, only two nights (thankfully) the 3 of us had to bunk on her (myself--wife and 9 yr old daughter) . Alas though we keep her docked better than 2 hours away and for day use becomes real old fast --- or the motel bills start to add up fast --- thus the idea of a 27 WA which would certainly fill our needs nicely --- Again welcome and thanks for your response --- Tom